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Originally Posted by Jinxx Winter time is the time to install everything and work out the bugs ....have it prepped and ready for spring ....nothing worse than having your car

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Old 01-28-2016, 09:25 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Winter time is the time to install everything and work out the bugs ....have it prepped and ready for spring ....nothing worse than having your car in the shop when everyone is driving theirs.
Hey are you running an oil cooler?if so what kind,also I picked up Bosch ev14 630cc injectors for a great price
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Hey are you running an oil cooler?if so what kind,also I picked up Bosch ev14 630cc injectors for a great price
I have the 25 row oil cooler from Z1 .... It seems to have drop oil temp 15-20 degrees on my daily driving ...... I haven't seen it go over 225 in 80 degree weather... that's the hottest it's been since I installed it. I'll have to check it out in the summer.
I use the evo 650cc injectors ... You should be ok with the 630cc running 10 ish psi after that you might be maxing them out ... Not sure if the limits with the injectors. Jon at Z1 told be 600cc was more than enough but I opted for 650cc per install instructions ..... And really the more I delt with Jon the more the worse it got ... Terrible customer service/lies/....tunes he sent me were awful...... He seemed great until after I paid the money then it was like pulling teeth for a response .... It's been waiting 2 weeks for a tune correction that he promised that same day .... I gave up and started looking for another tuner.
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Just remember you have a stillen udp on the crank so you will make less boost than normal per supercharger pulley size. Throw your factory balancer back on.

Edit: also make sure you are very careful with the charger oil line routing and which direction you put the filter on because the rotrex chargers WILL BLOW THE **** UP if you put it in backwards as there is a check valve in the filter. Also make sure you fill it and follow the brake in exactlly per instructions or it will fail
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Just remember you have a stillen udp on the crank so you will make less boost than normal per supercharger pulley size. Throw your factory balancer back on.

Edit: also make sure you are very careful with the charger oil line routing and which direction you put the filter on because the rotrex chargers WILL BLOW THE **** UP if you put it in backwards as there is a check valve in the filter. Also make sure you fill it and follow the brake in exactlly per instructions or it will fail
It's a just a stillen lightweight crank pulley not under drive,but you are very observant
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Just remember you have a stillen udp on the crank so you will make less boost than normal per supercharger pulley size. Throw your factory balancer back on.

Edit: also make sure you are very careful with the charger oil line routing and which direction you put the filter on because the rotrex chargers WILL BLOW THE **** UP if you put it in backwards as there is a check valve in the filter. Also make sure you fill it and follow the brake in exactlly per instructions or it will fail
I installed the sc inline oil filter the way directions said,hopefully its right but I'll triple check,are you running the same kit?
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i built those back in the day
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Built as in installed one of your own?or milled the parts for the kits?
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I have the 25 row oil cooler from Z1 .... It seems to have drop oil temp 15-20 degrees on my daily driving ...... I haven't seen it go over 225 in 80 degree weather... that's the hottest it's been since I installed it. I'll have to check it out in the summer.
I use the evo 650cc injectors ... You should be ok with the 630cc running 10 ish psi after that you might be maxing them out ... Not sure if the limits with the injectors. Jon at Z1 told be 600cc was more than enough but I opted for 650cc per install instructions ..... And really the more I delt with Jon the more the worse it got ... Terrible customer service/lies/....tunes he sent me were awful...... He seemed great until after I paid the money then it was like pulling teeth for a response .... It's been waiting 2 weeks for a tune correction that he promised that same day .... I gave up and started looking for another tuner.
Sounds like your having some bad luck with z1,I had contacted them a little while back about tuning and couple other parts,I wana stick with ecutek I think,the gamma turn key comes with 600cc,the Bosch ev's seem to be rated the best for over all in town driveability from what I've read up.Got a great deal for brand new,630cc n 650cc should be good up to 600hp I'd imagine depending on tune,maybe even a little more hp's
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Stage 2 comes with 650cc some use the 600cc and tune for them since they are cheaper and easier to get. I did contact gamma a few days ago and got there original tune for the kit ...it's updated from what Sam used and it has the throttle tables adjusted to get rid of the throttle lag and the fan tables are set to come on sooner as well......it seems to be doing better than the others and drives soooo much better...ill get my gauges in next week and then off to a dyno to test the tune ......fingers crossed hope it's close and I won't have to do a custom tune .....lol I'm sure I'll have to tho ....most can tunes are a little rich in the best case .....so I'm sure I'll have room to improve.
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Stage 2 comes with 650cc some use the 600cc and tune for them since they are cheaper and easier to get. I did contact gamma a few days ago and got there original tune for the kit ...it's updated from what Sam used and it has the throttle tables adjusted to get rid of the throttle lag and the fan tables are set to come on sooner as well......it seems to be doing better than the others and drives soooo much better...ill get my gauges in next week and then off to a dyno to test the tune ......fingers crossed hope it's close and I won't have to do a custom tune .....lol I'm sure I'll have to tho ....most can tunes are a little rich in the best case .....so I'm sure I'll have room to improve.
Ya seems like gammas moving along with ecutek slowly but getting there,custom tunes in your future lol,I don't have a dyno anywhere close to me so iam counting on good e tuning support,got abit of tuning knowledge myself from racing motorcycles and doing my own power commander tuning maps so hopefully it helps
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I can't adjust the tunes ....only have the cable that lets me flash computer but not edit the tune ...unless there is a way to edit it on the laptop and then make the tune to flash
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milled parts for the kits, made minor tune changes, worked on revisions with the engineer, and helped out with installs.
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Rad is in,most of the sc oil system is in minus cooler
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So after installing my boost gauge seems that I'm around 8lbs ....thought stage 2 was more ...ill be heading to the dyno soon to see what hp/tq I'm at ......kinda disappointed thought I would be around 9-10 but I guese I'll have to be happy with what I got .....car still pulls hard and even with drive roads was getting traction loss in upper gears so I can't complain to much ........hope I can hit around 460 whp with 8lbs
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So after installing my boost gauge seems that I'm around 8lbs ....thought stage 2 was more ...ill be heading to the dyno soon to see what hp/tq I'm at ......kinda disappointed thought I would be around 9-10 but I guese I'll have to be happy with what I got .....car still pulls hard and even with drive roads was getting traction loss in upper gears so I can't complain to much ........hope I can hit around 460 whp with 8lbs
Ya you should be close to 500 HP depending on tune,I think you can still get next size down pulley for more boost,have you contacted them to see?don't remember if I asked you but have you upgraded you cooling system at all?getting the heat out of our engine bays is key to help with HP,especially where the sc intake is located,iam looking at siebon vented hood to go along with my csf rad and other cooling upgrades
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