My kit has arrived! WOOOOOP!

Jayhovah · 01-07-2016, 02:16 PM

Still haven't decided on the clutch, but I am leaning towards the Z1 full face that jwick has.

I noticed that most people upgrade to a light flywheel with their clutch. I understand it's kind of a "already in there, why not upgrade?" situation but for a street car I am not sure I see the big value in what is essentially a $800 unsprung weight savings that will be noisy and slightly more difficult to drive in traffic... Am I missing something here? (You guys have probably already determined that I am kind of a cheap b@stard)

Feel free to weigh in!

Edit: Some Gamma related notes...
They are going to send me all the little parts I was missing.. notably: The correct spacers and hardware for the crash bar (so that I can install it properly, right now just being held on with 4 bolts), and also the power steering lines I was missing (they are abrasion resistant unlike the rubber lines I sourced from O'Reilly's).

They are also going to refund $350 (cost of uprev license and cable) since they couldn't get their Ecutek tune sorted out before my build and I went to JTRAN anyway. They did say they are a little strapped for cash right now, so I might have to be patient... or that they would give me store credit I could use immediately. I opted to wait for cash. So far, Amin has been pretty straight with me so I feel good that they will take care of me. I'll probably email them to see what clutches they stock since I am in the market anyway.

Hotrodz · 01-07-2016, 02:44 PM

Don't cheap out on supporting mods it will only cost you mony in the future. You have spent a lot of money already for pretty special car if you want to look at it more than driving it then do it on the cheap. I would trust jwick's judgment. If you plan on anymore horsepower down the line, get a clutch a flywheel that can hold the power. I had to upgrade my clutch and fly wheel again when I went flex fuel. That is the thing about being boosted, you should over build and mind the limitations of the eternals.

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Jayhovah · 01-07-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Don't cheap out on supporting mods it will only cost you mony in the future. You have spent a lot of money already for pretty special car if you want to look at it more than driving it then do it on the cheap. I would trust jwick's judgment. If you plan on anymore horsepower down the line, get a clutch a flywheel that can hold the power. I had to upgrade my clutch and fly wheel again when I went flex fuel. That is the thing about being boosted, you should over build and mind the limitations of the eternals.

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I'm all for that sentiment - but I don't quite understand how upgrading to a lighter flywheel protects me down the line from any kind of failure. To me, a lighter flywheel is about eeking every last bit of performance out of the motor/drivetrain. Is this an incorrect assumption?

I do not plan on doing any more power mods down the line - this car is a street car first and foremost and I think increasing the power any further comes with a disproportionate increase in failure risks.

Chuck33079 · 01-07-2016, 04:09 PM

If you're ok with some chatter, the flywheel is a very noticeable change. The car revs much more freely.

jwick · 01-07-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If you're ok with some chatter, the flywheel is a very noticeable change. The car revs much more freely.

Exactly what I was going to say. Also if you buy the Z1 setup it comes as a package (pressure plate, disc and flywheel) for under $800. Think I paid $775ish.

Hotrodz · 01-07-2016, 04:17 PM

You are correct in that it is a performance upgrade, but it add to efficiency of your build. I have gotten over the chatter as it's only from a dead stop that it is noticeable. The Z is a noisy car period so with every suspension or driveline upgrade comes a new and different noise. Speaking of noise, if you didn't do your rear diff bushing I would suggest that you do that as well to get rid of wheel under hard acceleration. Lol, once you start down the road of being boosted it becomes like a boat...bring on another thousand.

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jwick · 01-07-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You are correct in that it is a performance upgrade, but it add to efficiency of your build. I have gotten over the chatter as it's only from a dead stop that it is noticeable. The Z is a noisy car period so with every suspension or driveline upgrade comes a new and different noise. Speaking of noise, if you didn't do your rear diff bushing I would suggest that you do that as well to get rid of wheel under hard acceleration. Lol, once you start down the road of being boosted it becomes like a boat...bring on another thousand.

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Thought it was 'Bust out another thousand'

Hotrodz · 01-07-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Thought it was 'Bust out another thousand'

Old school vs the new, but anyway you spell it it is still a BOAT!

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jwick · 01-07-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Old school vs the new, but anyway you spell it it is still a BOAT!

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I had never heard that **** before until Counts Customs Horny Mike said it.

Jayhovah · 01-07-2016, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If you're ok with some chatter, the flywheel is a very noticeable change. The car revs much more freely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick

Exactly what I was going to say. Also if you buy the Z1 setup it comes as a package (pressure plate, disc and flywheel) for under $800. Think I paid $775ish.

I'd really like to avoid the chatter.. I really love how quiet the car is now and everything feels really factory. There was a time in my life I would have relished the chatter of a light flywheel (because racecar) but I've grown out of it. I have friends that often refer to me as a 70 year old man in a 34 year old body. The Z1 package is really reasonable though! Great deal.. just don't think it's for me. I need to find a reputable place to get the work done here in Tampa Bay... I wish I could just drop it off at JTRAN.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You are correct in that it is a performance upgrade, but it add to efficiency of your build. I have gotten over the chatter as it's only from a dead stop that it is noticeable. The Z is a noisy car period so with every suspension or driveline upgrade comes a new and different noise. Speaking of noise, if you didn't do your rear diff bushing I would suggest that you do that as well to get rid of wheel under hard acceleration. Lol, once you start down the road of being boosted it becomes like a boat...bring on another thousand.

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Originally Posted by jwick

I also second the rear diff bushing. Helps with shifts and wheel hop.

But farm that install out cuz it SUCKS!!!!

This is a good idea! I'll have to put this on the list for when I start experiencing some wheel hop. Hate wheel hop.

Hotrodz · 01-08-2016, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah

I'd really like to avoid the chatter.. I really love how quiet the car is now and everything feels really factory. There was a time in my life I would have relished the chatter of a light flywheel (because racecar) but I've grown out of it. I have friends that often refer to me as a 70 year old man in a 34 year old body. The Z1 package is really reasonable though! Great deal.. just don't think it's for me. I need to find a reputable place to get the work done here in Tampa Bay... I wish I could just drop it off at JTRAN.

I would contact Forge Performance in Atlanta about using Endless gear oil. I hear it's really good and cuts down on the fly wheel chatter. If you are will to drive Forge is a great shop to work with.

jwick · 01-07-2016, 06:39 PM

I also second the rear diff bushing. Helps with shifts and wheel hop.

But farm that install out cuz it SUCKS!!!!

PongSanity · 01-07-2016, 08:27 PM

Bring.Out.Another.Thou lmaooo. The Z1combo and that diff bushing. Worthy mods.

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jwick · 01-07-2016, 11:13 PM

I don't think mine chatters much more with the lightweight flywheel than it did with the factory one. These aren't quiet cars to begin with.

JARblue · 01-08-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

I'd really like to avoid the chatter.. I really love how quiet the car is now and everything feels really factory. There was a time in my life I would have relished the chatter of a light flywheel (because racecar) but I've grown out of it. I have friends that often refer to me as a 70 year old man in a 34 year old body. The Z1 package is really reasonable though! Great deal.. just don't think it's for me. I need to find a reputable place to get the work done here in Tampa Bay... I wish I could just drop it off at JTRAN.

Give Joe at ZSpeed a call. I'm pretty sure he's got an option to keep the flywheel chatter down even if you upgrade from the stock flywheel.

01-07-2016, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Don't cheap out on supporting mods it will only cost you mony in the future. You have spent a lot of money already for pretty special car if you want to look at it more than driving it then do it on the cheap. I would trust jwick's judgment. If you plan on anymore horsepower down the line, get a clutch a flywheel that can hold the power. I had to upgrade my clutch and fly wheel again when I went flex fuel. That is the thing about being boosted, you should over build and mind the limitations of the eternals. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk jwick and hooey_b like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

01-07-2016, 04:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	If you're ok with some chatter, the flywheel is a very noticeable change. The car revs much more freely. jwick likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

01-07-2016, 04:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	You are correct in that it is a performance upgrade, but it add to efficiency of your build. I have gotten over the chatter as it's only from a dead stop that it is noticeable. The Z is a noisy car period so with every suspension or driveline upgrade comes a new and different noise. Speaking of noise, if you didn't do your rear diff bushing I would suggest that you do that as well to get rid of wheel under hard acceleration. Lol, once you start down the road of being boosted it becomes like a boat...bring on another thousand. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk jwick, Ghostvette and hooey_b like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

01-07-2016, 06:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465057	I also second the rear diff bushing. Helps with shifts and wheel hop. But farm that install out cuz it SUCKS!!!! __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

01-07-2016, 11:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465057	I don't think mine chatters much more with the lightweight flywheel than it did with the factory one. These aren't quiet cars to begin with. hooey_b likes this. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

01-07-2016, 08:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
PongSanity Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Virgin Islands Posts: 261 Drives: '09 G37s KH3 6MT Rep Power: 11	Bring.Out.Another.Thou lmaooo. The Z1combo and that diff bushing. Worthy mods. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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