^ Well, on the brighter side at least you are getting over the humps and not sitting scratching your head for too long! Hopefully the rest of your plans come
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^ Well, on the brighter side at least you are getting over the humps and not sitting scratching your head for too long! Hopefully the rest of your plans come together smoothly. Again, as jwick has said there are some around willing to lend a hand or beer if you need some!
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Today... was an excellent day! Didn't get as far as we'd hoped, but we finally (I think) solved the last puzzle.. We found some issues with our drivers side turbo inlet pipe (which we have nicknamed "the bitchpipe" since it has sucked a 1.5 days of our time banging our heads against the wall).. in the configuration we settled on yesterday, it looked like a lip in the chassis was going to wear a hole in the coupler over time. Here is what you need to know: There are two inlet pipes, they are packaged together and not labeled differently as if they are identical. They look, at first, to be identical. They are NOT identical. One is slightly longer than the other. This is the drivers side pipe. The short end goes towards the turbo. The slightly shorter pipe (passenger side pipe) has the long end going towards the turbo. Groove, this information will extend your life for years in missed stress. We went through what felt like a zillion permutations of the configuration and it just felt like nothing worked. With those pipes finally figured out, we mocked up the rest of the pipeing and it went in like a breeze. The coupler between the drivers side compressor outlet pipe and intercooler inlet pipe seemed waaaay too short. When we finally got it on, it just looked like it would pop off at first boost. After speaking to support, we found out that some of the pipes got manufactured a half inch too short, and on some kits that coupler wont reach enough to tightly couple both pipes so they sourced longer couplers.. Our support guy, Jason, grabbed one and overnighted it to us. Should be here tomorrow and that issue should be solved. We marked the two inlet pipes and drilled/tapped/barbed (for PCV) and did the same for the passenger charge pipe (for wastegates) and reinstalled. We cannibalized the old horn bracket to make a new horn bracket, flipped the horn around, and mounted it to the passenger side top intercooler mount. Looks like another horn on the drivers side will need to be adjusted to fit the air filter, but we haven't installed it yet to see. Got the BOV's installed, and also cut the snorkel outlets to fit the intercooler outlet couplers. Got the upper intake manifold drilled/tapped/barbed as well for the BOV's, will reinstall tomorrow... Speaking of tomorrow.. if we have an excellent day we could finish the build... but nothing ever seems to go as fast as I think it will. Most likely we'll be ready for base tune on New Years Eve. In 2016, I resolve to boost. To do list (in orderish): Run wastegate lines Run power steering lines Install upper intake manifold Replace way-to-short coupler between driver's IC inlet and turbo charge pipe (hopefully the coupler will be in) Run BOV lines Install air filters Install MAF tubes and MAFs Install steering shaft coupler Install o2 sensor housings onto turbos (along with o2 sensors) Install Y-pipe Put wheels back on car. Install big *** GTM oil pan and plumb turbo oil drains Install new fuel pump Looks like a crapload of stuff, but a lot of it is small jobs. We would have to crush tomorrow to get it all done, most likely sometime the day after we will finish up. I really don't see too many snags ahead, just a lot of hooking stuff up.
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Another great day.. thinking we could finish today was stupid ambitious, as we came no where near, but still very productive... a lot of time was spent making small adjustments here and there. For instance, we noticed the passenger side water feed to the turbo was up against the chassis... the stainless steel lines are like sharkskin and there was already some abrasion on the paint. We reclocked the fitting to be a little freer and also split some heater hose to wrap the line in. I also heat wrapped a portion that was near the manifold.
I also felt the fuel line extension-OEM fuel line connection was in a high heat area near the manifold and the connection is plastic, so I heat wrapped it as well and we repositioned the line so it reached the fuel rail inlet without strain. Reinstalled the intake manifold.. that felt like a milestone! Found all the vacuum ports and harness plugs and those look good. Modified the starter cable (just flatten out the angle on the terminal) and shrink wrapped the new boot into place, heat wrapped the portion of the run that ran near the manifold and reconnected it. Installed the passenger side charge pipe.. Ran the wastegate lines.. There is a small heatshield around the pass wastegate and it looked like it could cut into the vacuum line so I bent it slightly.. Ran the PCV lines... Ran the power steering lines... Relocated the drivers side horn to clear the air filter (just had to move it up an inch or so). Cut off a nub on the radiator support to clear the pass air filter. New coupler for the Drivers side turbo outlet/intercooler inlet connection arrived and is WAY longer than the old one. No worries there about the pipe popping loose under pressure anymore. Installed the MAFs and MAF tubes... One note here, before we put in the MAFs, we taped the holes, left the tubes off the throttle bodies, and ran a shop vac from the air filter end of the pipe to make sure we sucked out any dust that might have fallen into the intake path... We figured the turbos would spin a little but they actually spun up quite a bit and we got to hear them whine a little - it was pretty exciting! Only did this for a few seconds on each side since there isn't any oil in the snails yet. Also torqued down the intercoolers in their final position and went ahead and installed the air filters. We would have run the BOV's but the length of vacuum line Gamma provided is barely enough to run one of them, much less both and the auto parts store was closed. That is one thing that has been a slight annoyance - the kit is extremely stingy on the hoses. The PCV and wastegate hose was barely long enough (none left over), they forgot to include power steering hose, and the BOV hose isn't nearly long enough. There isn't much provided for oil drain either, we'll have to see if we have enough when we install tomorrow... we know they left us short two hose clamps there as well. Another thing is, there is no spare hardware. You get just as many nuts and bolts as you need and no more.. god forbid you lose one! Gamma has spoken to us several times about working with them to refine the small details like this and to refine the instructions so hopefully all these notes I am streaming onto the forum will help me write up a pretty comprehensive report for them and the kit can be improved. The clamps were no big deal, as I hate the factory spring clamps so we just went to Ace and bought a big bag of screw clamps. Overall, this was a really satisfying day as we accomplished a lot of things and were able to cross a lot of items off the list. Even filled the radiator before bed to let it settle and hopefully let some air out. Still left to do (in orderish): BOV lines Turbo oil drains Steering coupler o2 housings test pipes Y-pipe wheels oil pan fuel pump Then we'll be ready for the initial startup! I'll probably leave the bumper/fender liners off until after we see no leaks. May even leave it off for the tune and flatbed the car to JTRAN. Haven't decided yet.
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Hate to derail the thread here but How bad does the weather affect that garage? Like is it unbearable in the winter/summer? Reason Im asking is I recently got an acre lot to build my new home, and I want a huge garage in the back. I know that a wooden garage with insulation will probably be better in terms of weather, But a brick one would be waayyyyy cheaper lol
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Happy New Year!
Could have finished today, but we didn't.. Haven't been able to get hold of JTRAN to find out when we can base tune, so we didn't feel rushed. I figure they are probably trying to get some semblance of a New Years Eve without people like me pestering them. We ran the BOV lines, changed the fuel filter, installed the massive oil pan, plumbed the turbo oil drains, tried to installed the crash bar (Gamma forgot to send us the hardware), and reinstalled the steering coupler. It was at this point where we noticed the steering coupler barely touched the drivers side oil drain and the water crossover, so we decided to rerun some of the lines which involved changing the positioning of some of the intercooler clamps, etc. Once we got that sorted, we started installing the o2 sensor housings and we are kind of stumped on how to get torque on some of the nuts. We think we can get to it with a crows foot... Neither my BIL or I have ever used one so we didn't think of it... a picture Groove sent us while we were texting back and forth turned us on to the idea. Thanks Groove! Speaking of Groove, that mofo is flying through his build and making us look bad. If you call me tomorrow talking about starting your car for the first time I will fly to your house and leave a flaming bag of dog poo on your doorstep =) Anyhow, the only things left before base tune are running the rest of the exhaust (test pipes and y-pipe) and the fuel pump, which we still didn't start since the car is on the lift. Tomorrow we'll put the wheels on in the morning and pick up some crows feet.. my BIL will finish up the exhaust and I'll do the fuel pump and hopefully we'll hear from JTRAN!
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Hah!! Glad to hear you guys are putting the finishing touches on everything! Thanks again for such detailed info on how to tackle some of the areas. Wouldn't be able to make such progress otherwise!
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Got crows feet. Going to finish the pump and JTRAN is going to try and come this afternoon for the base tune!
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Apparently everything is closed, or we would have pushed tonight to start the car.
Johnny came by and loaded the base tune, seems like a really great guy and super knowledgeable. I am really happy he is going to be doing the tuning. I was also surprised to learn that, with Ecutek, the stock fuel computer even works properly. This is going to be like a factory turbocharged car in terms of functionality (and hopefully, but not necessary expectantly, reliability). He did tell me we should get to about 480whp pretty easily with the 600cc injectors and, for a street car, that is all I am really looking for right now. It will be BY FAR the fastest and most powerful car I have ever driven seeing as how my stock Z was already the fastest and most powerful car I had driven (though only marginally over my 350z and my RX-7). Unfortunately, two things derailed starting the car tonight: 1) During the fuel pump install I got pretty sick off the gas fumes and had to call it for several hours. 2) We don't have enough hardware to put the exhaust back together.. it never occurred to us that 3 the 5 flange mounting points on each stock cat were based on studs in the cat itself... I got test pipes, but don't have enough hardware to install them and all the hardware stores were closed =( Also, WTF autozone does not have bolts/nuts. Do we need any kind of special heat resistant hardware for the o2 housing-to-test pipe junction? So anyhow, o2 housings/sensors are in (CROWS FEET ARE THE BOMB), oil filled, wheels are on, fuel pump is installed in the housing and spliced in, ready for reinstallation to the tank. Tomorrow we'll install it and get hardware for the exhaust (and crash bar), pray, and push the start button. If she fires up and drives safely around the block, we'll put on the bumper and undertray and drive to JTRAN. HOPING to be there late morning, like 11am'ish. I will update this thread when we are headed there for anyone who would like to meet us there! Groove - the fuel pump installation has changed. The instructions show a billet bracket to hold the new pump in place, but that has been deleted. I freaked today thinking Gamma forgot to include it in the kit, but Jason informed me that it has been replaced by that big rubber sock. Cleanly shave all the retaining plastic out of the housing, put the sock on the pump, lube it up a little (we used some motor oil) and stuff the thing in the housing. It fits snug. Orient the pump the same as if the bracket existed.
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Hoping to be there late morning.. but no specific time scheduled. He just said "I'll be there tomorrow, come on by."
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