STS Systems

Jordo! · 07-12-2010, 12:44 PM

Huh. Okay, well I've only seen a few set-ups done and they were less expensive and didn't need an intercooler, but boost came on later and it definitely didn't have the power potential of a traditonal set-up.

Maybe they've developed better systems for the Z -- I'll take you guys on your word on this one.

We're talking a rear mounted kit here, right? I didn't mean that comment for a single turbo under the hood (although you will typically get a broader power band for a TT kit over a large single one, usually at the cost of less top end).

EDIT: I just looked at the power/torque curve on the 350Z forum -- the boost curve is nuts...

It looks like they're running an extra big turbo to fill the piping, and there's pretty much nothing until almost 4K, then the power comes on and hits like a freight train.

That's fine for the drag strip, but it's gonna feel a little ungainly on a road car.

Okay -- I'll step off my soap box -- if you guys want that -- go for it.

I'm not a personal fan of torque curves that look like that...

Jamaica · 07-12-2010, 01:37 PM

ya its different when you read info then drive the car and see the result for yourself.

Zsteve · 07-12-2010, 05:47 PM

also if they use a recirculating valve and note a blow off valve the unused air is recirculated back into the air intake to help keep the turbo spinning up.

Push370zzz · 07-13-2010, 03:54 PM

I looked more into it and in my opinion is kind of a ripoff. I'd rather just do the Stillen kit. They were going to use my vehicle as a test mule for their bolt on kit and still wanted like $8800, and were going to keep it for a month. More expensive than the Stillen kit and I don't have to lose the car for a month...no thanks I'd rather just put a dp on a GTR.

Zsteve · 07-13-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs

I looked more into it and in my opinion is kind of a ripoff. I'd rather just do the Stillen kit. They were going to use my vehicle as a test mule for their bolt on kit and still wanted like $8800, and were going to keep it for a month. More expensive than the Stillen kit and I don't have to lose the car for a month...no thanks I'd rather just put a dp on a GTR.

Yea thats total BS. Your better off getting the GTM kit like you said.

GingaBreadMan · 07-14-2010, 12:14 PM

I just spoke to the guys at STS and they just finished dynoing a 370z for baseline numbers. The build is going to take about 2 months. They haven't decided on price or whether to offer single or twin turbos. All info will be available via their website. I've waited a while for this info. I'm glad I delayed my mods.

Zsteve · 07-14-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

I just spoke to the guys at STS and they just finished dynoing a 370z for baseline numbers. The build is going to take about 2 months. They haven't decided on price or whether to offer single or twin turbos. All info will be available via their website. I've waited a while for this info. I'm glad I delayed my mods.

tell them it should be less than the GTM SC as it requires less design and parts. Tell them the consumer wants fair pricing or else.

Jamaica · 07-14-2010, 03:34 PM

lol or else what?

Zsteve · 07-14-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951

lol or else what?

or else we wont buy it I guess. I also hope the tq numbers are better than a SCs even if just 1 turbo, which is really all I would want if I bought their kit.

GingaBreadMan · 07-14-2010, 09:47 PM

I'm just happy to have another turbo option. 18k for turbos is ridiculous

Lemers · 07-14-2010, 10:14 PM

In for info

Push370zzz · 08-05-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Yea thats total BS. Your better off getting the GTM kit like you said.

Haha not quite. I figure if their cheapo starter system is only $2k (which is a great deal, really) I just would like some more direction on what to do with it. The company it seems was very friendly and I enjoyed speaking with them, but the cost on the bolt on kit is a little higher than I think is fair. I mean it's supposed to be a budget-minded solution to boosting no?

That being said, I still am itching to just buy their starter single turbo and throw it on, but I don't have enough experience to buy it now and build that baby myself. Maybe in the winter when the car is outta commission for 4 months anyways. My primary motivation is just about 400-450 rwhp for under $4-$5k, which I know is asking a lot, but this seems like the most plausible means of accomplishing that.

GingaBreadMan · 08-05-2010, 08:18 PM

I'm expecting 450whp @4psi for about $5-8k. I'm also expecting Vida Guerra to knock on my door with a check for $100 mil

Push370zzz · 08-05-2010, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

I'm expecting 450whp @4psi for about $5-8k. I'm also expecting Vida Guerra to knock on my door with a check for $100 mil

Oops, meant to say hp, not rwhp. Either way, I can't imagine a well tuned one of those base STS Systems gain less than 100hp at the wheels. I don't think that it's that ridiculous, and am planning on assembling myself so it's really just the cost of parts and tune....

LateralG'z · 08-05-2010, 11:41 PM

I hope it does not have better TQ than the SC kits @ 8 psi or I will be making more changes under my hood. Yikes this car drains my wallet

07-12-2010, 12:44 PM	#286 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Huh. Okay, well I've only seen a few set-ups done and they were less expensive and didn't need an intercooler, but boost came on later and it definitely didn't have the power potential of a traditonal set-up. Maybe they've developed better systems for the Z -- I'll take you guys on your word on this one. We're talking a rear mounted kit here, right? I didn't mean that comment for a single turbo under the hood (although you will typically get a broader power band for a TT kit over a large single one, usually at the cost of less top end). EDIT: I just looked at the power/torque curve on the 350Z forum -- the boost curve is nuts... It looks like they're running an extra big turbo to fill the piping, and there's pretty much nothing until almost 4K, then the power comes on and hits like a freight train. That's fine for the drag strip, but it's gonna feel a little ungainly on a road car. Okay -- I'll step off my soap box -- if you guys want that -- go for it. I'm not a personal fan of torque curves that look like that... __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 07-12-2010 at 12:58 PM.

07-12-2010, 05:47 PM	#288 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	also if they use a recirculating valve and note a blow off valve the unused air is recirculated back into the air intake to help keep the turbo spinning up. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

07-13-2010, 03:54 PM	#289 (permalink)
Push370zzz Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Age: 39 Posts: 649 Drives: cars Rep Power: 17	I looked more into it and in my opinion is kind of a ripoff. I'd rather just do the Stillen kit. They were going to use my vehicle as a test mule for their bolt on kit and still wanted like $8800, and were going to keep it for a month. More expensive than the Stillen kit and I don't have to lose the car for a month...no thanks I'd rather just put a dp on a GTR. __________________ Range Rover Sport Supercharged Nissan 370z Touring + Sport

07-14-2010, 12:14 PM	#291 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	I just spoke to the guys at STS and they just finished dynoing a 370z for baseline numbers. The build is going to take about 2 months. They haven't decided on price or whether to offer single or twin turbos. All info will be available via their website. I've waited a while for this info. I'm glad I delayed my mods. __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

07-14-2010, 09:47 PM	#295 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	I'm just happy to have another turbo option. 18k for turbos is ridiculous __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

07-12-2010, 01:37 PM	#287 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	ya its different when you read info then drive the car and see the result for yourself.

07-14-2010, 03:34 PM	#293 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	lol or else what?

07-14-2010, 10:14 PM	#296 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	In for info __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

08-05-2010, 08:18 PM	#298 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	I'm expecting 450whp @4psi for about $5-8k. I'm also expecting Vida Guerra to knock on my door with a check for $100 mil __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

08-05-2010, 11:41 PM	#300 (permalink)
LateralG'z Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 876 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 17	I hope it does not have better TQ than the SC kits @ 8 psi or I will be making more changes under my hood. Yikes this car drains my wallet __________________ 2010 Mag Black, 6MT,

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