STS Systems

Cell · 10-20-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter

More pics, details, etc...

We need much more detail than a simple dyno and price. We want more information!

Jamaica · 10-20-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

We need much more detail than a simple dyno and price. We want more information!

you have a phone call em and ask lol

Dembflyr · 10-21-2010, 12:16 AM

Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right.
The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"?
Edit: I know I left out installation and that alone is probably close to $3k when all is said and done. I do my own work so I didn't think about that part.

Q8y_drifter · 10-21-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr

Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right.
The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"?

You can get away with a $1K 2.5" exhaust. Ofcourse you won't be making the same power as a 3" exhaust. You will definitely need gauges, sensors, oil cooling, shipping, labor (unless DIY). Adds up quick.

theDreamer · 10-21-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero

Yea exactly. 10k for turbo + 7k upgrade/tun + another 3k for shipping.

10k gets you a tune, upgrades are as you need them, oil cooler is right away along with some gauges. 3k for shipping? WTF, no.

Lets break it down
-TT kit: 8-10k for kit, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades - Total of 14k-16k
That is about what most have been paying to do a good clean install and be safe with proper upgrades.

-STS kit: 6.5k, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades, does the kit come with a tune if not a possible 1k there for tuning, unknown kit design with possible problems we will throw in another 1k - Total of 12500-14500
This is a untested kit on our car and clearly no support on the forum yet from the makers of this kit. Also, unwated low pipes on the underside of the car may cause issues down the road.

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr

Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right.
The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"?
Edit: I know I left out installation and that alone is probably close to $3k when all is said and done. I do my own work so I didn't think about that part.

You are about right with your estimate, the 15k-17k number is thrown around because the first TT installs were about that. Though those guys all had shops do the work and did 'extras' that may not be required. Such as replace the stock gauges with aftermarket, a lot of labor to tear that down.

I am not putting this kit down or anything, but from the pictures I see, you get savings of around 2k for a single turbo setup that is under the car. I would spend the extra 2k on piece of mind and knowing I have good vendors here that support the current TT kits and will jump in to help in anyways possible.

Gunzero · 10-21-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

10k gets you a tune, upgrades are as you need them, oil cooler is right away along with some gauges. 3k for shipping? WTF, no.

Lets break it down
-TT kit: 8-10k for kit, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades - Total of 14k-16k

Lmao.. 1k-1.5k to ship the car one way. Multiply that x2 = what? 2-3k, but yea driving it back might be better, but still gotta pay for gas.. right?
Brings your total to 19k+ lil shy under 20k right? Just a rough estimate.
Wasn't really an exact figure, but I was trying to say..
If this kit cost 3k for the universal + labor (should be lower since it's easier to install?) so around let's say 3k max for install and fabrication that's 6k spent. You can use the stock exhaust with this kit. still @ 6k.. + tune + upgrades.
If it's under 7-8k then why the hell would I spend 20k on the other one XD
Might as well buy another car with that 20k or make a down payment on a decent house.

theDreamer · 10-21-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero

Lmao.. 1k-1.5k to ship the car one way. Multiply that x2 = what? 2-3k, but yea driving it back might be better, but still gotta pay for gas.. right?
Brings your total to 19k+ lil shy under 20k right? Just a rough estimate.
Wasn't really an exact figure, but I was trying to say..
If this kit cost 3k for the universal + labor (should be lower since it's easier to install?) so around let's say 3k max for install and fabrication that's 6k spent. You can use the stock exhaust with this kit. still @ 6k.. + tune + upgrades.
If it's under 7-8k then why the hell would I spend 20k on the other one XD
Might as well buy another car with that 20k or make a down payment on a decent house.

This STS kit is $6500 where did you get 3k?
1k to ship, you are over paying, also you are in Texas, plenty of good shops around that you can drive to easily. Also, you said 6k total (assuming 3k for the kit

) and then tune plus upgrades is 7-8k. Upgrades are standard between the two kits, it is 3-5k for upgrades you might or will need.

The differences between these two kits are:
-Price for kit (6500 v. 8000): Also, what comes with this kit besides the piping and turbo? Do you get bigger injectors, fuel upgrades, etc.? If not, that is more you have to add to the STS price.
-Install (Unknown difference)

With either kit you are going to spend a minimum of $12,000 to get it on and running, after that you are on your own for upgrades or other items you need.

Jamaica · 10-21-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

This STS kit is $6500 where did you get 3k?
1k to ship, you are over paying, also you are in Texas, plenty of good shops around that you can drive to easily. Also, you said 6k total (assuming 3k for the kit

) and then tune plus upgrades is 7-8k. Upgrades are standard between the two kits, it is 3-5k for upgrades you might or will need.

The differences between these two kits are:
-Price for kit (6500 v. 8000): Also, what comes with this kit besides the piping and turbo? Do you get bigger injectors, fuel upgrades, etc.? If not, that is more you have to add to the STS price.
-Install (Unknown difference)

With either kit you are going to spend a minimum of $12,000 to get it on and running, after that you are on your own for upgrades or other items you need.

lol doesnt cost 1k for shipping. Its 6400 shipped to your front door. Install 3k for an install then you getting screwed. Average rate for labor is $99 an hour. So your saying 30 hours for install? idk. The kit comes with injectors and an upgraded fuel system. The only items you need is a camp hks 2 and a oil cooler.

Q8y_drifter · 10-21-2010, 12:16 AM

The only difference between this and say the GTM stage 1 is the price of the kit itself. the same upgrades such as clutch, oil cooler(s), gauges, etc will have to be done on both anyway. But even then you are comparing a single turbo kit to a TT kit. Add the price of the other turbo and manifolds and now you're the same price range as the GTM TT kit.

Jamaica · 10-21-2010, 12:56 PM

nope dont need 30 hours. They said its about 14-18 hours depending on the knowledge of the installer.

theDreamer · 10-21-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951

nope dont need 30 hours. They said its about 14-18 hours depending on the knowledge of the installer.

Interesting, even a SC install is 30 hours and that is pretty damn drop in place for our car as it can be.
Redo my numbers:
-6500 kit
-2500 install & tune
-500 ship
-2000 - first set of upgrades
_______
11,500

That will get you on the street with the it and be safe, you might be able to knock some off the install/tune section as it will be done all at once.

Gunzero · 10-21-2010, 01:06 PM

Squires Turbo Systems - Universal
I was talking about the Universal turbo

$1995.00
Anyways, sure 20k probably was an over-exaggeration, but from the other threads I've seen 18k+ xD
If this can be built for under 8k. I'd get it.

basically what the kit's gonna look like. Doesn't look too bad..

theDreamer · 10-21-2010, 01:10 PM

I do not think you can get away with the Universal system.
Even if you do, you still have to purchase many other items.

Gunzero · 10-21-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I do not think you can get away with the Universal system.
Even if you do, you still have to purchase many other items.

Emailed Outperformance shop. I showed the vid to my friend yesterday and funny thing is he knew the street where the video was taken from the Nismo STS.
Said that was in Plfugerville, TX but the shop is @ Grand Prairie.

not bad.
If the price is reasonable being not over 8k.. Then basically gonna drive up there and drop my car off mwuahaa, but first it's gotta come out of the collision center first from it's recent fender bender lmao.

Q8y_drifter · 10-21-2010, 01:26 PM

It's a rear mount turbo. If you can follow instructions, you shouldn't have any problems installing this kit. Should be much easier than GTM TT.

10-21-2010, 12:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dembflyr Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 886 Drives: G37S Sedan Rep Power: 17	Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right. The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"? Edit: I know I left out installation and that alone is probably close to $3k when all is said and done. I do my own work so I didn't think about that part. __________________ 2012 G37S Sedan 6MT - Project Practicality 2009-6MT-Sport/Touring-Dembflyr's Journal-TT Build Thread-CAR IS SOLD

10-21-2010, 12:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 16	The only difference between this and say the GTM stage 1 is the price of the kit itself. the same upgrades such as clutch, oil cooler(s), gauges, etc will have to be done on both anyway. But even then you are comparing a single turbo kit to a TT kit. Add the price of the other turbo and manifolds and now you're the same price range as the GTM TT kit. __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

10-21-2010, 01:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gunzero Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 889 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 259	Squires Turbo Systems - Universal I was talking about the Universal turbo $1995.00 Anyways, sure 20k probably was an over-exaggeration, but from the other threads I've seen 18k+ xD If this can be built for under 8k. I'd get it. basically what the kit's gonna look like. Doesn't look too bad.. __________________ Last edited by Gunzero; 10-21-2010 at 01:08 PM.

10-21-2010, 01:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	I do not think you can get away with the Universal system. Even if you do, you still have to purchase many other items. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-21-2010, 01:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 16	It's a rear mount turbo. If you can follow instructions, you shouldn't have any problems installing this kit. Should be much easier than GTM TT. __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

10-21-2010, 12:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 74	nope dont need 30 hours. They said its about 14-18 hours depending on the knowledge of the installer.

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