STS Systems

Jamaica · 10-17-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody

just took two clicks to find.

209Z · 10-17-2010, 07:55 PM

dyno looks amazing. Thinking about ordering hmmm =]. Just need more information on it. Maybe a special release? More pictures? etc

jnaut · 10-17-2010, 08:43 PM

whos car is this? pics of the intercooler/ t.b ? does look cool, there are a few things I would do different but good job over all! where did you run the piping through the crossmember?

209Z · 10-18-2010, 01:28 AM

want more pics ! want more everything *credit card in hand* lol =]

WarmAndSCSI · 10-18-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by danielw

have you owned a rear mount kit? I have. We considered putting a turbo blanket on the turbo. The hotter the turbo gets the quicker it spools up.

Have you:

- built over a dozen engines to various specifications for street/strip/ridiculous power output usage
- ported and polished cylinder heads for high-output turbo V6 applications to optimize top-end while maintaining spool
- designed and reworked turbo piping for a transverse-mount V6 to produce optimal spool
- ported cast turbo manifolds to equalize runner length and balance flow
- personally rebuilt various turbochargers after failures
- chosen a turbo for a particular application, spending months researching compressor efficiency maps and simulating engine output
- tuned half a dozen separate high-specific-output cars on various tuning platforms for supercharged/NA/turbocharged power
- dedicated yourself to personally researching engine and turbocharger technology for the past 5 years, developing and innovating new ideas for your own projects

?

You're barking up the wrong tree. What I stated is 100% accurate; what you have to present is how a newbie would explain why "more heat" is better for a turbocharged setup.

JoeyD · 10-18-2010, 11:43 AM

PV=NRT I'm just sayin...

Hotter turbo (housing) means nothing.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-18-2010, 12:13 PM

Exactly.

It's all about exhaust gas velocity, and a higher exhaust charge temperature is indicative of that. Like I said in my previous post, what is important is how well your pre-turbine-housing piping and turbine housing keep energy (read: heat and velocity) from escaping the exhaust system. With piping that is coated inside and out, and a turbine housing that may or may not be coated with an insulating blanket, there is no harm with a lot of cool air being blown around the turbo. End of story.

Zsteve · 10-18-2010, 01:00 PM

so we want HAI?

WarmAndSCSI · 10-18-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

so we want HAI?

Nope, you want cold air on the compressor side of the turbo, fast and hot air (aka exhaust) on the turbine side. Generally speaking, that is.

STS definitely knows what they're doing. It's already an improvement over the 350Z rear mount design because it looks like they replaced the mid-pipe with a bigger-diameter piece that appears to be coated (presumably inside and out). The 350Z setup used the stock mid-pipe by default.

I certainly hope they're not using HPC coatings any more since they went out of business here in Utah. The best option IMO is from Swain Tech. HPC sucks.

Q8y_drifter · 10-18-2010, 03:16 PM

I'd love to get a better view of all the intake and exhaust piping. Is the turbo water cooled?

Zsteve · 10-18-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Nope, you want cold air on the compressor side of the turbo, fast and hot air (aka exhaust) on the turbine side. Generally speaking, that is.

STS definitely knows what they're doing. It's already an improvement over the 350Z rear mount design because it looks like they replaced the mid-pipe with a bigger-diameter piece that appears to be coated (presumably inside and out). The 350Z setup used the stock mid-pipe by default.

I certainly hope they're not using HPC coatings any more since they went out of business here in Utah. The best option IMO is from Swain Tech. HPC sucks.

I know I was just trying to

some

Where is the air intake filter exactly and how do they keep it from getting dirty too fast?

1slow370 · 10-19-2010, 03:51 AM

hopefully the oiling sysem isn't anything like the 350z one, installed one for one of my guys and the pump was on the other end of 12ft of 3/8 id hose from a tiny nipple on the turbo. it sucked so bad he had oil bypassing the seals at idle filing the intake piping and shooting out the exhaust so bad that when his BOV opened it would spray oil in his engine bay. We had the turbo inspected and it was like new, then i machined the oil fitting on the turbo out to 1/2 npt with a 5/8 id lineto the pump, relocated the pump to the back to reduce restriction and give the pump an easier life pumping oil, then we ran 1/2id back to the front of the engine and wouldntcha know it it just stopped leaking.

danielw · 10-19-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Have you:

- built over a dozen engines to various specifications for street/strip/ridiculous power output usage
- ported and polished cylinder heads for high-output turbo V6 applications to optimize top-end while maintaining spool
- designed and reworked turbo piping for a transverse-mount V6 to produce optimal spool
- ported cast turbo manifolds to equalize runner length and balance flow
- personally rebuilt various turbochargers after failures
- chosen a turbo for a particular application, spending months researching compressor efficiency maps and simulating engine output
- tuned half a dozen separate high-specific-output cars on various tuning platforms for supercharged/NA/turbocharged power
- dedicated yourself to personally researching engine and turbocharger technology for the past 5 years, developing and innovating new ideas for your own projects

?

You're barking up the wrong tree. What I stated is 100% accurate; what you have to present is how a newbie would explain why "more heat" is better for a turbocharged setup.

wow you're so awesome... I wish I could be like you when I grow up you fearsome keyboard warrior you.

I didn't say anything about blowing hot air into the engine like you're making it out.

370Zsteve · 10-19-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by danielw

wow you're so awesome... I wish I could be like you when I grow up you fearsome keyboard warrior you.

I didn't say anything about blowing hot air into the engine like you're making it out.

Welcome to the Intertubes.

1slow370 · 10-19-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Welcome to the Intertubes.

It's Interwebz NOOB

10-17-2010, 07:55 PM	#362 (permalink)
209Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockton, Cali (209) Posts: 1,058 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 278	dyno looks amazing. Thinking about ordering hmmm =]. Just need more information on it. Maybe a special release? More pictures? etc __________________ Team Blur My Build Thread Fast Intentions\|KWS\|BERK\|Carbon Fiber Element\| SEIBON\|Memphis Car Audio\| Status Autoworks\|Lusso Forged\|Autohaus\|PWJDM\|SPC

10-17-2010, 08:43 PM	#363 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 18	whos car is this? pics of the intercooler/ t.b ? does look cool, there are a few things I would do different but good job over all! where did you run the piping through the crossmember? __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

10-18-2010, 01:28 AM	#364 (permalink)
209Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockton, Cali (209) Posts: 1,058 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 278	want more pics ! want more everything credit card in hand lol =] __________________ Team Blur My Build Thread Fast Intentions\|KWS\|BERK\|Carbon Fiber Element\| SEIBON\|Memphis Car Audio\| Status Autoworks\|Lusso Forged\|Autohaus\|PWJDM\|SPC

10-18-2010, 11:43 AM	#366 (permalink)
JoeyD Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 305 Drives: 09 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 186	PV=NRT I'm just sayin... Hotter turbo (housing) means nothing. __________________ When was the last time you did 230MPH in something with 4 seats?

10-18-2010, 12:13 PM	#367 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Exactly. It's all about exhaust gas velocity, and a higher exhaust charge temperature is indicative of that. Like I said in my previous post, what is important is how well your pre-turbine-housing piping and turbine housing keep energy (read: heat and velocity) from escaping the exhaust system. With piping that is coated inside and out, and a turbine housing that may or may not be coated with an insulating blanket, there is no harm with a lot of cool air being blown around the turbo. End of story. __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

10-18-2010, 01:00 PM	#368 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	so we want HAI? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

10-18-2010, 03:16 PM	#370 (permalink)
Q8y_drifter Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 306 Drives: 08 Infiniti G35 5AT Rep Power: 15	I'd love to get a better view of all the intake and exhaust piping. Is the turbo water cooled? __________________ 08 G35 5AT Sedan \| Stillen CBE \| Invidia HFC \| Injen CAI \| Uprev Tune \| Akebono BBK \| Tanabe Coilovers \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| GTSpec FSB \| Black Headlights & Grille \| Volk GT-F Wheels \| Hankook V12 Evo Tires

10-19-2010, 03:51 AM	#372 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	hopefully the oiling sysem isn't anything like the 350z one, installed one for one of my guys and the pump was on the other end of 12ft of 3/8 id hose from a tiny nipple on the turbo. it sucked so bad he had oil bypassing the seals at idle filing the intake piping and shooting out the exhaust so bad that when his BOV opened it would spray oil in his engine bay. We had the turbo inspected and it was like new, then i machined the oil fitting on the turbo out to 1/2 npt with a 5/8 id lineto the pump, relocated the pump to the back to reduce restriction and give the pump an easier life pumping oil, then we ran 1/2id back to the front of the engine and wouldntcha know it it just stopped leaking. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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