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Staples 11-27-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rAiN (Post 823477)
will there be a way to have this kit without sounding like a civic with fartcan?

They make numerous race mufflers... Vibrant, Magnaflow, Dynomax, Aero all make small canister style mufflers you could use. I'm just going to end up using a 16" resonator which will deepen the sound.

Lug 11-27-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 823709)
They make numerous race mufflers... Vibrant, Magnaflow, Dynomax, Aero all make small canister style mufflers you could use. I'm just going to end up using a 16" resonator which will deepen the sound.

Boy, if I ended up with 16", I'd be bragging about going deep too!


....takes hat off to Staples

atx370z 11-27-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 813657)
they are having tuning issues with there current tuner. He also stated that they are tuning it to run at 8 psi to run 480to the wheels. I asked him about the piping because the piping looks pretty low...but does it look lower then the fast intention or any other exhaust?

I took those pics... the piping isn't as low as it looks in the pictures. It doesnt hang any lower than the FI exhaust. I can guarantee that.

atx370z 11-27-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 823709)
They make numerous race mufflers... Vibrant, Magnaflow, Dynomax, Aero all make small canister style mufflers you could use. I'm just going to end up using a 16" resonator which will deepen the sound.

You could put a resonator before the turbo, but any kind of muffler or cat you're risking debris coming loose for some reason and damaging the turbo.

1slow370 11-30-2010 02:50 AM

id be carefull with a lot of resonators on the market too many are packed and the fiberglass can't be too turbo freindly when it starts breaking down and blowing through after a week.

danielw 12-02-2010 08:55 AM

from what I understand resonators don't go on the inside of the exhaust they go on the outside. Maybe I'm missing something

1slow370 12-05-2010 03:21 AM

this is a resonator, note the perforated center tube, yeah there's filler in most resonators between the perforated inner tube and the outer shell of the resonator. Think of it as being like a cherry bomb muffler or glass-pack. The resonators you want don't have a filler but they don't effect the sound as much either.

http://www.titantruckz.com/kb/Image/...anks%20013.jpg

Staples 12-05-2010 03:54 PM

The air isn't going to be as hot as a front style turbo. That's going to put less stress on the resonator in terms of heat, so it SHOULDN'T be too much of an issue. STS recommended instead of using a resonator, use a straight flow through racing muffler.

danielw 12-06-2010 08:39 AM

another thing you can do is use resonated test pipes which do have the resonator on the outside.

Staples 12-06-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by danielw (Post 838675)
another thing you can do is use resonated test pipes which do have the resonator on the outside.

I've never heard of outside resonators? :confused:

Are you talking about like what Motordyne offers, their ART pipes?

1slow370 12-07-2010 04:25 AM

yeah sorry resonators are always exposed to exhaust gasses they don't go over the existing pipe if this is what you believe suck it up your wrong harsh i know, and filled resonators always break down the "mufflers" on most z aftermarket exhausts are all fiber filled and even on an n/a they get louder after the first week thanks to breakdown.

A lot of the performance straight through's are filled too you have to be careful when buying if you don't want a filled one. they resonators that are y'd into the exhaust are more like true resonators by definition as they are mainly hollow and due to resonant frequencies at like a spring when tuned correctly to produce inverted amplitude sound waves that travel back up the y and cancel some of the sound waves in the main exhaust pipe out. the fiber filling in some resonators acts like a damper and absorbs the sound furthering the frequency range the resonator is capable of affecting.

danielw 12-07-2010 09:05 AM

Kinetix Resonated Test Pipes (350Z / G35) - Modern Automotive Performance Resonator on outside

CBRich 12-07-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by danielw (Post 840456)

Stop thread jacking. You are wrong. Move along.

Jamaica 12-07-2010 11:16 AM

you can still have test pipes with this turbo system.

Staples 12-07-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by danielw (Post 840456)

LOL those are standard resonated test pipes, I don't see any fiberglass packing on the outside.

Jamaica 12-07-2010 11:26 AM

I still dont get whats going on. You can use the LTH with the system or HFC or TP. There turbo piping starts right after the LTH or HFC or TP. Just like an exhaust setup

christian370z 12-07-2010 12:30 PM

If anything, the turbos will suppress some of the sound (not a whole lot, just a little bit more than just having a straight through exhaust).

danielw 12-08-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 840525)
Stop thread jacking. You are wrong. Move along.

I've owned resonated test pipes. The interior does have anything other than metal. I owned them with a rear mounted setup, so I wouldn't have put them on if there were any chance of material coming apart and blowing through the turbo.

Staples 12-08-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by danielw (Post 842320)
I've owned resonated test pipes. The interior does have anything other than metal. I owned them with a rear mounted setup, so I wouldn't have put them on if there were any chance of material coming apart and blowing through the turbo.

All the resonators I'm familiar with still have fiberglass packed in them except for MotorDyne's ART pipes. There's a metallic funnel, then under the funnel is the packing. If you don't want the fiberglass, then you would need some type of muffler. They do make racing mufflers that resemble resonators.

Do you know the brand that makes full metal based resonators?

CBRich 12-08-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by danielw (Post 842320)
I've owned resonated test pipes. The interior does have anything other than metal. I owned them with a rear mounted setup, so I wouldn't have put them on if there were any chance of material coming apart and blowing through the turbo.

You stated that resonators went on the OUTSIDE of the exhaust piping. That is wrong, plain and simple. Even if there is a resonator with nothing packed in it there will be holes inside the pipe just like 1slow370 posted. I assure you that if you buy a resonator it is not just a piece of exhaust piping with some metal put around the outside of it.

1slow370 12-09-2010 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 843749)
You stated that resonators went on the OUTSIDE of the exhaust piping. That is wrong, plain and simple. Even if there is a resonator with nothing packed in it there will be holes inside the pipe just like 1slow370 posted. I assure you that if you buy a resonator it is not just a piece of exhaust piping with some metal put around the outside of it.

exactly and as kinetix them selves says "we now offer a full stainless straight through converter replacement, but with a stainless exhaust resonator welded in-line." not outside in-line meaning gas flows through them and you may have owned resonators before and i know you had a rear turbo 350, but have you ever cut a resonator open and seen the inside of it? oh and on a side note the oil system on the 350 sts sucks, the return line is to small which puts too much strain on the pump, which is located on the wrong end of the vehicle. I've installed them before and the turbo smokes like it has blown seals until you change the line and fittings and move the pump.

Andyy 04-06-2011 02:29 PM

Anyone try this on a 2011 automatic?

roplusbee 04-13-2011 10:34 AM

Man this thread went well off course, lol. I have been searching for any other Z's with the STS kit, but come up empty. Have they actually sold any other than the one that is on old boy's red NISMO?

Jamaica 04-13-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1051195)
Man this thread went well off course, lol. I have been searching for any other Z's with the STS kit, but come up empty. Have they actually sold any other than the one that is on old boy's red NISMO?

They have two nismos and one stock z. They have preorders. Two people only on there list. Numbers range from 450-485 to the wheels on 6-8 lbs of boost. They ran 10lbs and got over 515. Interesting kit with good pricing

Mr.Squeeze 04-15-2011 08:00 AM

I would love to see a STS kit for this car or even another twin kit on the market.

EXTREME 05-09-2011 03:40 PM

so do we have enough people purchased and said good things about this kit!
man i read all those pages and cant read/write now :D

209Z 05-10-2011 12:05 AM

i would do it. But my compressor and tank is behind the bumper for my bags =[

Jamaica 05-20-2011 04:35 PM

Finally got vendor pricing. There will be one installed in So Cal by August.

dixon cider 05-21-2011 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1123732)
Finally got vendor pricing. There will be one installed in So Cal by August.

Yeah, August of '12.....:stirthepot:








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Jamaica 05-21-2011 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dixon cider (Post 1124729)
Yeah, August of '12.....:stirthepot:








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Next time your in Cali boost vs boost.

On a serious side ..

They will need another car to test out.

dwntwnall4u 05-21-2011 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1123732)
Finally got vendor pricing. There will be one installed in So Cal by August.

What is the price? I could lend my Z.

dixon cider 05-21-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1124795)
Next time your in Cali boost vs boost.

On a serious side ..

They will need another car to test out.

I'm all out of Z's bro

209Z 05-22-2011 11:56 AM

maybe they can do something my car ;]?

Jamaica 05-22-2011 04:11 PM

who ever is interested please let me know. The kit will be listed for sale this week on the forum.

Asquarecan 05-23-2011 05:52 PM

I am very interested in this!

My friends think it is a dumb idea, but if it works well the price cannot be beat.

GingaBreadMan 05-24-2011 04:56 PM

477whp at that price is incredible

Cell 05-24-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan (Post 1130425)
477whp at that price is incredible

That is with 18" rims and long tube headers. I assume it would make less with the regular 19" rims and regular stock headers.

Cell 06-01-2011 02:14 PM

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2...smo370zred.jpg

Anyone know why it lost torque below 3000 rpm?

wilsonp 06-01-2011 05:41 PM

Giant restriction in the intake path? When the turbo isn't turning fast enough, I could see that being a problem unless it had some type of bypass.

jnaut 06-01-2011 06:13 PM

nope its restriction in the exhaust system... its called a turbo


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