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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z Yes. Personally, I'd go ahead and upgrade the crank but there is no problem with mixing-and-matching. Just remember that a chain is only as strong as

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Yes. Personally, I'd go ahead and upgrade the crank but there is no problem with mixing-and-matching. Just remember that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.


Whoever this "someone" is, they don't know what they are talking about. The trans doesn't know how old the engine is - and wouldn't care if it did. All the trans cares about is how much power is being applied to the input shaft.


The engine and trans don't need to "correspond." As long as the trans bolts up properly and can handle the engine's power, you are good to go.
Thanks for the clarification. It took a lot of stress off my mind. It was my brother in law who isn't into cars lol. I'm a noob as it is so it had me going. And Good to know but I'd probably want to get a new crank as well as upgrading the internals with the new transmission anyways. It's nice knowing that I dont have too tho. Thanks again guys. Other thanupgrading the clutch master cyl, slave and pedal is there any upgrades worth putting into a transmission? like racing gears or synchros?
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Having the cranked balanced to the new rods and pistons would be a good idea.
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Having the cranked balanced to the new rods and pistons would be a good idea.
I figured as much its nice knowing I dont have to though but honestly i'm OCD and anal about things. It will drive me crazy knowing my crank is balanced as far as durability goes... Thank you for your input. Reading can only get you so far.....
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I figured as much its nice knowing I dont have to though but honestly i'm OCD and anal about things. It will drive me crazy knowing my crank is balanced as far as durability goes... Thank you for your input. Reading can only get you so far.....
IMNSHO, if you're going to do any work on an engine, balancing and blueprinting (plus port matching and polishing where needed) are all just part of doing it right. Doesn't make sense to me to go to the trouble/expense of rebuilding/modding and do it half-a$$ed. But maybe I'm OCD, too.
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IMNSHO, if you're going to do any work on an engine, balancing and blueprinting (plus port matching and polishing where needed) are all just part of doing it right. Doesn't make sense to me to go to the trouble/expense of rebuilding/modding and do it half-a$$ed. But maybe I'm OCD, too.
balancing blueprinting? Polishing? You mean with pistons rods balancing etc? but blue printing...As far as specs and what not? Again I'm new so the terminology your using is like chinese. Is there a link for that here?
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How bad is your transmission? How's your clutch? Just wondering how long you can get by...

Also is the same person giving you advice working on your car as well? Haha
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How bad is your transmission? How's your clutch? Just wondering how long you can get by...

Also is the same person giving you advice working on your car as well? Haha
Well the clutch is really bad. Super bad..Like you can feel it...I got an ATC clutch and pressure plate along with a new master and HD slave. I want to install now but waiting on my flywheel. Trying not to do any driving in the meantime but got to get to work.

My gears are sticky. typical 1st to sec sticky but I grind when I go in to 6th. I also think my synchros are going bad because when I down shift into 5th from 6th it grinds even with matching RPM's going into 5th. It may be the bad clutch too...

No way..I leave that to professionals. I am a noob and know very little. Only thing I did myself was the exhaust. anything else I'm letting the guys at TF works install.
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Fast intentions or boosted performance. Budget $15k.

The other option is cai, test pipes, cat back and tune. Be happy with 330 whp. If you by used parts, you'll be able to do that for $2500 or so.
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I guess I'm just trying to make sure my car is durable for the power I want but I guess I wouldn't be getting much with NA. i'll do some research on the FI. All I hear about is people blowing their motors but maybe its people with huge FI lol Thanks again.
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I guess I'm just trying to make sure my car is durable for the power I want but I guess I wouldn't be getting much with NA. i'll do some research on the FI. All I hear about is people blowing their motors but maybe its people with huge FI lol Thanks again.

Actually, there's relatively few blown motors from people who buy good kits, proper supporting mods and get a good tune. There's always the potential for failure, but the vq is pretty solid at high power levels.

You always need some savings in case things go south, but there's a lot of guys with a lot of miles on boosted 370s.
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Actually, there's relatively few blown motors from people who buy good kits, proper supporting mods and get a good tune. There's always the potential for failure, but the vq is pretty solid at high power levels.

You always need some savings in case things go south, but there's a lot of guys with a lot of miles on boosted 370s.
And is this something I do upon FI when I am ready or now before all that? Or are you saying IYNSHO thats what getting it right is as far as making sure the motor is right for any use? lol serious question
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370z Forced Induction for Noobs...

Here's some good reading to get you started.

The other thing to think about is how much power you really are comfortable with. With full bolt ons and a tune, 330 whp is still a lot of go, especially if you get the suspension dialed in and can drive. It's not a number you'll brag about, but it's not slow at all. Swap out the rear end gear, and you've got a very quick car. 450+whp is a whole different animal. It will require serious respect. If you mat the throttle when you shouldn't, it'll throw you off the road backwards. It's a lot of fun, but you've got to be paying attention at all times. And some of the compromises you'll make for the power will make the car suck as a commuter. The clutch you'll need will be a pain in traffic, for one. It's all a trade-off.
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Here's some good reading to get you started.

The other thing to think about is how much power you really are comfortable with. With full bolt ons and a tune, 330 whp is still a lot of go, especially if you get the suspension dialed in and can drive. It's not a number you'll brag about, but it's not slow at all. Swap out the rear end gear, and you've got a very quick car. 450+whp is a whole different animal. It will require serious respect. If you mat the throttle when you shouldn't, it'll throw you off the road backwards. It's a lot of fun, but you've got to be paying attention at all times. And some of the compromises you'll make for the power will make the car suck as a commuter. The clutch you'll need will be a pain in traffic, for one. It's all a trade-off.
Thanks for the link. I'm all for respect. I don't get careless with things I don't fully understand. hence all the questions. I'm not looking to brag but I do want fun. 500whp is something I would be more than happy with and comfortable with. I don't think I even need/want that much. 450whp is good for me too as far as being comfortable. That's why I wanted to go NA because I really dont have a need for big gains. I just wanted a durable motor but it cost a fortune. And I may have misunderstood durability as far as cars go. I was thinking that any FI you NEED forged internals. I was wrong. Now FI seems cheaper and my motor doesnt need to be THAT durable for my ideal of power. I purchased an ATC clutch (street) and pressure plate but thats just because I need one. will I need an upgrade to that if I do take the FI route? And understood about the trade off...i'm def starting to see that
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All you need for the motor is a compression test, leakdown test and an oil analysis. If everything looks good, you'll be fine. Do all the supporting mods when you put the kit on and make sure you have a good shop and tuner. Keep up on maintenance. These motors are stout unless you get unlucky or cut corners.
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Copy. TYhanks again guys. Let me do some reading and All advice is taken to account. Thanks again Chuck33079 and SouthArk370Z. I appreciate all this. I'll do some more research and tone it down with the forged ****. I'll see what supporting mods I'll need to be safe. Blueprinting and balancing will something I'll look into as well. So right now these are the mods I purchase

ACT Clutch pressure plate.
CF drive shaft (1 piece)
HD Slave
New Master
4.08 gearing pin
Quaife 1.5 LSD
Short shifter
RJM clutch pedal


To build up to FI in the future anything I should purchase or does the kit usually come with all that i'll need (other than what SouthArk370z said about balancing and blueprinting?)
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