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Originally Posted by batboyvaj Is there a way to create a system where people can go back to their stock intake manifold and use a dual intake setup similar to

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Old 07-23-2015, 11:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Is there a way to create a system where people can go back to their stock intake manifold and use a dual intake setup similar to your single kit?
No, There is no room to run your driver side pipe up to the TB. The blower takes up all the room on driver side.
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I will be running my charge pipe in the route this kit is going with the filter. So its not a 90* per say but more like a 180.
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love it, this is really cool. The relocation of the MAFs is awesome, I really hope you guys are able to take full advantage of this blower and put out some really good results on a stable reliable tune.
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love it, this is really cool. The relocation of the MAFs is awesome, I really hope you guys are able to take full advantage of this blower and put out some really good results on a stable reliable tune.
I have no doubt that this kit can make some serious power with this configuration. The blower is now the "weak" point (if one can say that) where as before, it was the strongest part of the entire kit.

The only potential issue is belt slip if guys try to push for high boost.

I would also encourage those who go with this upgrade to get a good flowing exhaust. A set of long tube headers will also go a long way. With these modifications the manifold boost pressure would drop, but your volume of air going in to the engine would increase...which is what you really want.
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I have no doubt that this kit can make some serious power with this configuration. The blower is now the "weak" point (if one can say that) where as before, it was the strongest part of the entire kit.

The only potential issue is belt slip if guys try to push for high boost.

I would also encourage those who go with this upgrade to get a good flowing exhaust. A set of long tube headers will also go a long way. With these modifications the manifold boost pressure would drop, but your volume of air going in to the engine would increase...which is what you really want.
I really hope this is the case. i've never liked the kit because many members in the past who had opened up the downpipes/exhaust seemed to get worse power as a result... honestly i thought the blower was probably just a POS and wasn't strong enough to make power without a clogged up exhaust with a lot of back pressure to hold more boost.

i would really enjoy seeing this succeed. i'm sure it would be somewhat 'cheap' to offer an upgrade like this too once this is complete... plumbing, intercooler, wiring for the MAFs? and most importantly labor/know-how... $2,000-2,500 ???
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Well, it is almost 01:00 AM, and the car is done. Just need to start it in the morning...hopefully the car runs on the current map. Will post a few more pictures when I get up in the morning.
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I stopped by last night at Sashas house.

The pipe he built going into the TBS is an F'n work of art. Im amazed by his welding/fab skills!
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Sasha you're the FRICKEN man BTW. I know you and I talked about this over 2 years ago! My car blew up and you've been busy. I cant wait to see this finished and the numbers it puts down. I may go back on my word and get this kit again and buy you upgrade package

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Here it is...


BOV recirculated back to intake, using the hose/hardware provided by Stillen:





All new charge pipe to the TB's. This was a pain to build. The Y section had to be carefully cut to provide the best air split between the TB's. I think it worked out very well. There is very little room there for MAF sensors, and I had to end up using some tall sensor bungs in order to have them 180 degrees apart. This was due to space on the outside, and space on the inside of the 3" diameter tube.





Inside the pipe (looks crooked, this was before welding):



Complete pipe kit:




So, that is all folks.....short and sweet. The car fired right up after the conversion and idled just fine, although a bit richer than before at 13.5 a/f. Not a big deal at all. The car will now need a new tune.

I am not sure what the standard size injectors come with this kit. I think they are 550-600cc. I would suggest going larger than that just to make sure there is plenty of head room, especially with the smaller pulleys.



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I am sure this question will be asked by Stillen kit owners....how much?

With everything needed to make this conversion, I am looking at about $1,750 to the door for continental US and Canada. You will have to remove the crash bar, and get the car custom tuned as well.
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