Stillen Air to Air setup

Boosted Performance · 07-22-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

Update - Sasha made some good ground last night! He ditched the 2.5" intake into the blower, Built a 3" pipe into the blower, routed the filter down in front of the drivers front wheel. He mounted up the FMIC as well. He's building the MAF pipes tonight and intercooler piping. I do have some pictures but will wait until I speak with Sasha before I post up his work.

I'll start a new thread and post a lot of pictures shortly.

TopgunZ · 07-31-2015, 10:19 AM

I wanted to go to the smaller SC pulley from Vortech but their calculator is telling me that with my pulley setup I will already be at 53K. I measured my pulleys and have the following.

Crank 5.75
Serp 2.90 - Black 9psi stillen pulley
Jackshaft - 3.2
SC - 3.2
SCI impellar upgrade

This will supposedly make 12psi at sea level. If all this is correct, then how can a guy make 16 psi if the supercharger is at max revs?

JWillis72 · 07-31-2015, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

I wanted to go to the smaller SC pulley from Vortech but their calculator is telling me that with my pulley setup I will already be at 53K. I measured my pulleys and have the following.

Crank 5.75
Serp 2.90 - Black 9psi stillen pulley
Jackshaft - 3.2
SC - 3.2
SCI impellar upgrade

This will supposedly make 12psi at sea level. If all this is correct, then how can a guy make 16 psi if the supercharger is at max revs?

928 motorsports sells a rebuild kit that lets you spin it to 60k.

TopgunZ · 07-31-2015, 10:37 AM

That would help. Im just confused by Vortech stating the V3 is capable of 17psi. How can they make a claim like that if it is maxed out in revs only producing 12?

Z&I · 07-31-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

That would help. Im just confused by Vortech stating the V3 is capable of 17psi. How can they make a claim like that if it is maxed out in revs only producing 12?

V3 SCi trim (Stock Stillen impeller) is optimistically rated at up to 17psi, 1050CFM, and max RPM is 53K.

V3 Si trim (upgraded impeller) is rated at up to 22psi, 1150CFM, and max RPM is 52K.

You still might be cutting it close...

V-3 Si Supercharger | Vortech Superchargers

JWillis72 · 07-31-2015, 10:41 AM

I don't get that either.

EVOHUNTER · 07-31-2015, 10:57 AM

I don't get it because guys are spinning them at 19Psi on the 5.0 mustangs, they arnt having any issues either.

Either way im gonna spin the F out of this blower lol

TopgunZ · 07-31-2015, 11:54 AM

Well I would like to push this built motor. So if I could get it past 12psi I would love to. I mean you could push it to 60K but the bearings wont last long. I really don't know how the stang guys are doing it. Maybe I should get on that forum.

Unless the Vortech calculator is all off and my setup isn't really seeing 53K.

Anyone? Need some help here.

Dyno scheduled for the 15th!

JWillis72 · 07-31-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Well I would like to push this built motor. So if I could get it past 12psi I would love to. I mean you could push it to 60K but the bearings wont last long. I really don't know how the stang guys are doing it. Maybe I should get on that forum.

Unless the Vortech calculator is all off and my setup isn't really seeing 53K.

Anyone? Need some help here.

Dyno scheduled for the 15th!

928 says they can be spun up to 72K and can run in the 60s all day.

928 Motorsports - Premium High-Speed Rebuild Kit for Vortech® Superchargers

Pro4Jackster · 07-31-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Well I would like to push this built motor. So if I could get it past 12psi I would love to. I mean you could push it to 60K but the bearings wont last long. I really don't know how the stang guys are doing it. Maybe I should get on that forum.

Unless the Vortech calculator is all off and my setup isn't really seeing 53K.

Anyone? Need some help here.

Dyno scheduled for the 15th!

The 350Z forum guys are doing it too. Almost every Vortech build thread on there is overspinning a SCi or Si.

TopgunZ · 07-31-2015, 12:07 PM

Alright. Ill just buy a different pulley and hope for the best.

EVOHUNTER · 07-31-2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Alright. Ill just buy a different pulley and hope for the best. Been working for me with the ladies. The Pull and Pray method.

Before you buy anything, Im going to work on the pulley setup tonight.

Ill tell you what works and what doesn't, then we can go from there.

EVOHUNTER · 07-31-2015, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Well I would like to push this built motor. So if I could get it past 12psi I would love to. I mean you could push it to 60K but the bearings wont last long. I really don't know how the stang guys are doing it. Maybe I should get on that forum.

Unless the Vortech calculator is all off and my setup isn't really seeing 53K.

Anyone? Need some help here.

Dyno scheduled for the 15th!

In reality, It would see 52,000k etc.. at 7000-7500RPM.

You wont be a redline all the time, so I think it will be fine.

If you were tracking the car and constantly being at 6000-7500 rpm then I would look at the upgraded bearings!

Pro4Jackster · 07-31-2015, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

I don't get it because guys are spinning them at 19Psi on the 5.0 mustangs, they arnt having any issues either.

Either way im gonna spin the F out of this blower lol

That's the spirit!!

JWillis72 · 07-31-2015, 12:14 PM

TpgunZ, did you convert your Z to air to air?

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07-31-2015, 10:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	I wanted to go to the smaller SC pulley from Vortech but their calculator is telling me that with my pulley setup I will already be at 53K. I measured my pulleys and have the following. Crank 5.75 Serp 2.90 - Black 9psi stillen pulley Jackshaft - 3.2 SC - 3.2 SCI impellar upgrade This will supposedly make 12psi at sea level. If all this is correct, then how can a guy make 16 psi if the supercharger is at max revs? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

07-31-2015, 10:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	That would help. Im just confused by Vortech stating the V3 is capable of 17psi. How can they make a claim like that if it is maxed out in revs only producing 12? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

07-31-2015, 10:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	I don't get it because guys are spinning them at 19Psi on the 5.0 mustangs, they arnt having any issues either. Either way im gonna spin the F out of this blower lol JWillis72 likes this. __________________

07-31-2015, 11:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Well I would like to push this built motor. So if I could get it past 12psi I would love to. I mean you could push it to 60K but the bearings wont last long. I really don't know how the stang guys are doing it. Maybe I should get on that forum. Unless the Vortech calculator is all off and my setup isn't really seeing 53K. Anyone? Need some help here. Dyno scheduled for the 15th! __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

07-31-2015, 12:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Alright. Ill just buy a different pulley and hope for the best. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 07-31-2015 at 01:42 PM.

07-31-2015, 10:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I don't get that either.

07-31-2015, 12:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	TpgunZ, did you convert your Z to air to air? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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