Stillen Air to Air setup

JWillis72 · 11-19-2015, 09:06 AM

If I can get away from work today I will take pictures. Strange thing is that the tune that was on it the car idled, it was pig rich but it idled. That is when I started questioning the tuner, every base map he tried was never as good as the uprev tune.

TopgunZ · 11-19-2015, 01:40 PM

Hmmmm..... Tuner must suck.

JWillis72 · 11-19-2015, 01:42 PM

Thankfully I'm done with him!The MAP should be here today so we can start trying to tune it again.

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YzGyz · 11-19-2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Are you now 100% sure the maf housing conductor slot faces air flow?

First installed like oem install? That won't be a problem Anymore since your blowthru vs pull.

I haven't looked but make sure the depth of mafs and angle are legit. Also check for funk or gunk on the sensor conductors. If your going map I guess this is a moot point.

Make sure your fprs is ranged also. But if your old tuner couldn't get that right then....

Can you add more input on the correct MAF housing conductor slot? I thought there was only one way to do it. Please clarify as I am now paranoid I did it wrong. I just put them in and tighten them down in the BP kit the same way I took them out. Pics, drawing, or pop up book style would greatly appreciated.

YzGyz

JWillis72 · 11-19-2015, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz

Can you add more input on the correct MAF housing conductor slot? I thought there was only one way to do it. Please clarify as I am now paranoid I did it wrong. I just put them in and tighten them down in the BP kit the same way I took them out. Pics, drawing, or pop up book style would greatly appreciated.

YzGyz

They only fit one way but because my pipes are custom the mounts could be welded on backwards.

TopgunZ · 11-19-2015, 02:07 PM

Yup. I used the stillen intake y tube but inverted it so my mafs were facing the wrong way till I modded the housings. Your gtg.

EVOHUNTER · 11-19-2015, 04:08 PM

first thing first, we need a picture of your mafs in those pipes.

If those are good, Smoke test her. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a manifold leak or tb leak or something.

Im leaning towards the mafs being mounted backwards.

EVOHUNTER · 11-19-2015, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz

Can you add more input on the correct MAF housing conductor slot? I thought there was only one way to do it. Please clarify as I am now paranoid I did it wrong. I just put them in and tighten them down in the BP kit the same way I took them out. Pics, drawing, or pop up book style would greatly appreciated.

YzGyz

with your kit the mafs are mounted properly and can only go in one way.
cant mess it up. I have a feeling they replicated the stillen intake pipe which wont work with the air to air.

EVOHUNTER · 11-19-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

first thing first, we need a picture of your mafs in those pipes.

If those are good, Smoke test her. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a manifold leak or tb leak or something.

Im leaning towards the mafs being mounted backwards.

un screw the 2 screws in the maf, pull one out, and take a picture the same way it came out. this will tell me and top if there right.

JWillis72 · 11-19-2015, 04:14 PM

Now that we are speed density tuning does it mater?

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EVOHUNTER · 11-19-2015, 04:16 PM

to be honest, it doesn't lol.

Your mafs will only read iat temps now, so in theory you could leave them.

JWillis72 · 11-19-2015, 04:18 PM

I will still check when I can get up there but it's probably going to be tomorrow.

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TopgunZ · 11-19-2015, 04:31 PM

It matters if the motor will rely on accurate iats to advance/retard timing. They won't be accurate if the mafs are in backwards.

EVOHUNTER · 11-19-2015, 04:59 PM

I could be wrong, but doesn't our mafs sensors have the IAT resister on the back side of the maf with the MAF signal sensor in the front? I think overall it should still receive the same temps inside the pipe no matter what. The stillen water to air setup still reads consistant iat temps with them backwards. We all know those IAT temps are not even close to what they read by the time that air hits the motor.

With that being said, it couldn't hurt to put them the right way if they are mounted wrong.

JWillis72 · 11-19-2015, 05:13 PM

Evo I sent the shop a picture of yours and they are facing the correct direction.

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11-19-2015, 01:40 PM	#632 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Hmmmm..... Tuner must suck. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

11-19-2015, 02:07 PM	#636 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Yup. I used the stillen intake y tube but inverted it so my mafs were facing the wrong way till I modded the housings. Your gtg. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

11-19-2015, 04:08 PM	#637 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	first thing first, we need a picture of your mafs in those pipes. If those are good, Smoke test her. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a manifold leak or tb leak or something. Im leaning towards the mafs being mounted backwards. __________________

11-19-2015, 04:16 PM	#641 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	to be honest, it doesn't lol. Your mafs will only read iat temps now, so in theory you could leave them. __________________

11-19-2015, 04:31 PM	#643 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	It matters if the motor will rely on accurate iats to advance/retard timing. They won't be accurate if the mafs are in backwards. JWillis72 likes this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

11-19-2015, 09:06 AM	#631 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	If I can get away from work today I will take pictures. Strange thing is that the tune that was on it the car idled, it was pig rich but it idled. That is when I started questioning the tuner, every base map he tried was never as good as the uprev tune.

11-19-2015, 01:42 PM	#633 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	Thankfully I'm done with him!The MAP should be here today so we can start trying to tune it again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-19-2015, 04:14 PM	#640 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	Now that we are speed density tuning does it mater? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-19-2015, 04:18 PM	#642 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I will still check when I can get up there but it's probably going to be tomorrow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-19-2015, 04:59 PM	#644 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	I could be wrong, but doesn't our mafs sensors have the IAT resister on the back side of the maf with the MAF signal sensor in the front? I think overall it should still receive the same temps inside the pipe no matter what. The stillen water to air setup still reads consistant iat temps with them backwards. We all know those IAT temps are not even close to what they read by the time that air hits the motor. With that being said, it couldn't hurt to put them the right way if they are mounted wrong. __________________

11-19-2015, 05:13 PM	#645 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	Evo I sent the shop a picture of yours and they are facing the correct direction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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