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GrooveStyle 04-14-2015 04:39 PM

Anyone heard from GTM?
 
Hey guys. Has anyone heard from GTM in the past month or so?

I'm on my 4th number for them (909)296-6300 and no one ever picks up anymore. Rings and goes to voicemail. Haven't heard from Sam in the last probably 2 months. I'm still leaving messages at that number and emails. But I've heard nothing.

If anyone has any info, that'd be great. I'm STILL without my MHI kit group buy money.... week 48 waiting for refund.... paid in June 2013...

Pretty much everything for my build is at a standstill until I can get this resolved. I'm beyond tired of it. :icon14:

Thanks.
PLEASE don't try to set a record for getting this thread locked....

COSMO 04-14-2015 05:27 PM

omg man where have you been? I will make this quick and easy because this thread is certainly going to be shut down fast!!
GTM filed bankruptcy, knowing that they had it planned all along they still accepted money for their new turbo kit. If you have not filed something through your bank or credit card company by now you can kiss your money goodbye..
They were suppose to move to another location since all of their depts. are gone now and start all over again.. Sorry bud...

Chuck33079 04-14-2015 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3168890)
omg man where have you been? I will make this quick and easy because this thread is certainly going to be shut down fast!!
GTM filed bankruptcy, knowing that they had it planned all along they still accepted money for their new turbo kit. If you have not files something through your bank or credit card company by now you can kiss your money goodbye..
They were suppose to move to another location since all of their depts. are gone now and start all over again.. Sorry bud...

Pretty much all of this. Especially the bolded part.

GrooveStyle 04-14-2015 06:00 PM

Yeah, well, thanks I've been here the whole time. Was just asking who had been in contact.

So Sam called me shortly after posting. He said that he can't post to this forum anymore/was blocked or something. Apparently they're down but still not out.

Sam, if you're reading this. You really have to keep the communication line open. I really appreciate the call, but more communication and delivering on promises is the only way you're going to be able dig your way out of this.... I've been calling for a long time before you rang me back today. But thanks for the call, need a lot more of that...

He told me that he's been trying to hold on to his technical guys through this situation, and they've been working on more projects. He also said that the V3 turbo kit WILL ship. But estimating 60 more days. Apparently the castings situation has been fixed and now all they need is piping. I'll definitely believe it when I see it. But that's on Sam to keep us informed.

In the meantime, sounds like GTM has been working on a roots supercharger kit. He sent me pics so far.

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psuusytuqi.jpg


http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psbkmqe6e6.jpg


http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psvhoapdqp.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psqs1kzly3.jpg

In his words: "As i told you on the phone we intend to deliver the V3 kit and we have couple cool things in the works as well like a root style supercharger we started with doing the V8 Model and we are jumping on the VQ 37 VHR shortly , here are some pics on the root system ."

Hopefully GTM will dig themselves out of this one. But Sam needs to keep me and everyone else in the loop and deliver to do so. Companies live and die on customer service, and GTM has some catching up to do. Show me. Thanks Sam.

rndoosh 04-14-2015 07:04 PM

This is great news !!!! it is a win win , people will get their turbokit and we will have a Roots SC option for our platform :happydance:

Chuck33079 04-14-2015 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rndoosh (Post 3168997)
This is great news !!!! it is a win win , people will get their turbokit and we will have a Roots SC option for our platform :happydance:


Everything Sam says is complete ********. He's done this before.

COSMO 04-14-2015 07:30 PM

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Yeah I'm sure he Is going to ship out new exhaust manifolds to all of the guys including me who's gtm tt kit ~CRACKED~....!!!!
Do you have any idea of how much time and money it has cost meand many many others because of their bs?
I hope your reading this sam and your lucky I don't fly to cali to put this cracked manifold straight up your anus!!



(Apparently the castings situation has been fixed and now all they need is piping)

YzGyz 04-14-2015 09:05 PM

I have nothing invest in GTM and never will. I still can't believe people are still believing/willing to believe that GTM will put out. That's just stupid. THE DUDE LIED TO EVERYONE INCLUDING HIS WORKERS!! If he was Pinocchio, his nose would be prodding the Moon by now. Well, maybe not. Some of the people will see that big wooden stick of a nose beacon and run up to him, break it off and beat him with it.

YzGyz

Masterbeatty 04-14-2015 09:40 PM

Ibtl

TopgunZ 04-14-2015 10:21 PM

So thats the roots system supposedly 80% complete.... very interesting

I really want to see this pull through.

NeverBoneStck 04-14-2015 10:24 PM

Sam is priceless. Still spitting out the same lying venom.

Presto 04-14-2015 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3169040)
Yeah I'm sure he Is going to ship out new exhaust manifolds to all of the guys including me who's gtm tt kit ~CRACKED~....!!!!
Do you have any idea of how much time and money it has cost meand many many others because of their bs?
I hope your reading this sam and your lucky I don't fly to cali to put this cracked manifold straight up your anus!!



(Apparently the castings situation has been fixed and now all they need is piping)

GTM screwed over so many people, im still baffled why not one person has done the above. Or have they but refrain from posting so that they dont goto jail?

KratikosG37 04-15-2015 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3169040)
Yeah I'm sure he Is going to ship out new exhaust manifolds to all of the guys including me who's gtm tt kit ~CRACKED~....!!!!
Do you have any idea of how much time and money it has cost meand many many others because of their bs?
I hope your reading this sam and your lucky I don't fly to cali to put this cracked manifold straight up your anus!!



(Apparently the castings situation has been fixed and now all they need is piping)

HKS works just fine.

Buddy of mine cracked both of his.

Also can get them welded too.

Glad to read you got it fixed.

Edit: I don't know the situation of GTM. All I know it I too also own a GTM TT kit, so by default I would like for them to make a comeback for my own reasons. No one likes owning a car you can't get parts for.


Having the time for R&D on a s/c and not customer service is mind boggling and making me want to scream.


Why purchase anything if all you hear is a bad rep? It don't matter if they can make a boosted VQ37VHR that can blow IF or AMM out the water(not implying they can). If your customer service is questionable I'm not investing a damn thing with you. With that said, they're plenty of other threads/post about GTM, and how bad they treated other people, so this isn't anything new.

Sam,

If you're going to make a comeback please lean your attention on a larger customer service, and get the sponsoring back on the forums with current testimonials. Drop what you're doing cause the community is more considered about how you treated people in the past and not what you're making for the future. Work on all the refunds and promises you made to the people that are still waiting on their parts. Proof to us that everything you been doing in the past is the past.

Just want to be able purchase parts from you in the future again and not have to change a complete kit somewhere else because of your bad business decisions.

Thanks

COSMO 04-15-2015 07:36 AM

Listen I get where your coming from but sam already knows this but chooses to be greedy instead. I went through vivid racing a month ago and tried to purchase one of their new redesigned exhaust manifolds and waited almost 2 months on a deadline sam himself gave todd and vivid and guess what he missed the deadline and I had to have vivid refund my money.. Nothing will change with sam because he knows how to weezel his way out after he has your money.. Anybody would be insane to ever use gtm for future business. I now have a busted car with a built motor for insane boost and out almost 10k for his twin turbo kit.. Don't you guys find it funny he has time for r&d to design more crap while filing for bankruptcy and not wanting to refund your hard earned money you gave him??:rolleyes::rolleyes:



Quote:

Originally Posted by KratikosG37 (Post 3169353)
HKS works just fine.

Buddy of mine cracked both of his.

Also can get them welded too.

Glad to read you got it fixed.

Edit: I don't know the situation of GTM. All I know it I too also own a GTM TT kit, so by default I would like for them to make a comeback for my own reasons. No one likes owning a car you can't get parts for.


Having the time for R&D on a s/c and not customer service is mind boggling and making me want to scream.


Why purchase anything if all you hear is a bad rep? It don't matter if they can make a boosted VQ37VHR that can blow IF or AMM out the water(not implying they can). If your customer service is questionable I'm not investing a damn thing with you. With that said, they're plenty of other threads/post about GTM, and how bad they treated other people, so this isn't anything new.

Sam,

If you're going to make a comeback please lean your attention on a larger customer service, and get the sponsoring back on the forums with current testimonials. Drop what you're doing cause the community is more considered about how you treated people in the past and not what you're making for the future. Work on all the refunds and promises you made to the people that are still waiting on their parts. Proof to us that everything you been doing in the past is the past.

Just want to be able purchase parts from you in the future again and not have to change a complete kit somewhere else because of your bad business decisions.

Thanks


Masterbeatty 04-15-2015 07:45 AM

On second thought this post has to be someone trolling because the engine above isn't even a VQ. So I call BS on this.

JARblue 04-15-2015 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rndoosh (Post 3168997)
This is great news !!!! it is a win win , people will get their turbokit and we will have a Roots SC option for our platform :happydance:

:facepalm:

Typical GTM. You don't have the product you paid for years ago and we promised months (or years) ago? Well, forget that crap and check out this new product we worked up while not developing your product :gtfo2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3169398)
Don't you guys find it funny he has time for r&d to design more crap while filing for bankruptcy and not wanting to refund your hard earned money you gave him??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Funny? Not so much. Deceitful? Yes. Criminal? Yes.

Sam should be in jail. Getting pounded daily by some guy named Molly.

FPenvy 04-15-2015 07:54 AM

ahhh I love the smell of GTM bashing in the morning :yum:

OP: please for fucks sake do not buy into Sam's bs and waste MORE MONEY on GTM.

try to get a refund, go buy a FI TT kit, and be happy. :tiphat:

Masterbeatty 04-15-2015 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3169408)
ahhh I love the smell of GTM bashing in the morning :yum:

OP: please for fucks sake do not buy into Sam's bs and waste MORE MONEY on GTM.

try to get a refund, go buy a FI TT kit, and be happy. :tiphat:

Yup and I haven't even had a cup of coffee yet and it's getting good.

KratikosG37 04-15-2015 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3169398)
Listen I get where your coming from but sam already knows this but chooses to be greedy instead. I went through vivid racing a month ago and tried to purchase one of their new redesigned exhaust manifolds and waited almost 2 months on a deadline sam himself gave todd and vivid and guess what he missed the deadline and I had to have vivid refund my money.. Nothing will change with sam because he knows how to weezel his way out after he has your money.. Anybody would be insane to ever use gtm for future business. I now have a busted car with a built motor for insane boost and out almost 10k for his twin turbo kit.. Don't you guys find it funny he has time for r&d to design more crap while filing for bankruptcy and not wanting to refund your hard earned money you gave him??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Blind man can see that you have it out for GTM and very right to do so.

Only time will tell and regardless if Sam can reinvent the wheel it won't bring your money back or months/years of waiting.

Was one of the lucky ones. TT kit 10k miles strong runs like a champ. Any major problems happen in the future I will be forced to go IF or AAM. No one is prefect, but I'm welling to pay extra for a great customer experience.

Sam should get pointers from Z1 and CJM. Yea I said it, but it's not like it isn't the truth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3169404)
On second thought this post has to be someone trolling because the engine above isn't even a VQ. So I call BS on this.

It's for a V8 currently working on a VQ model.

VSS370z 04-15-2015 08:30 AM

:bs:

TopgunZ 04-15-2015 08:42 AM

Yes its easy to tell that is not the Z bay. Maybe they are stating this just to get their name thrown around to try to get some face time again. Albeit negative...

bullitt5897 04-15-2015 09:12 AM

I am only saying this as to inform not to push or promote... There have been some major changes in regards to the direction with GTM. I will not be able to go into any more details but I will say this I hope that the new changes have a positive influence on their business practices... it will be a long road ahead of them.

bullitt5897 04-15-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3169465)
Yes its easy to tell that is not the Z bay. Maybe they are stating this just to get their name thrown around to try to get some face time again. Albeit negative...

That is for the VK56. And Yes they are working on a kit for the VQ. What your hearing from us is not because they asked us to share but because we wanted to. Sam actually told me not to share and that they would release details once it is done...

FPenvy 04-15-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3169486)
I am only saying this as to inform not to push or promote... There have been some major changes in regards to the direction with GTM. I will not be able to go into any more details but I will say this I hope that the new changes have a positive influence on their business practices... it will be a long road ahead of them.

If this is true and they are trying to salvage their business they need to do a few things to live on.

1. kill off Sam. he's a cancer to their business at this point.
2. change their name and start new.
3. get on their knees and blow the TT group buy customers they bent over and went in dry on.

JARblue 04-15-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3169486)
I am only saying this as to inform not to push or promote... There have been some major changes in regards to the direction with GTM. I will not be able to go into any more details but I will say this I hope that the new changes have a positive influence on their business practices... it will be a long road ahead of them.

Major changes? If so, they don't appear to be changes for the better.

The ability of customers to contact the shop has gotten worse it seems. The group buy they took money for several years ago still isn't finished, yet they are working on completely different projects. I wonder when they will start taking money for the VQ rootkit SC :wtf2:

charjohnnie 04-15-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrooveStyle (Post 3168936)
Yeah, well, thanks I've been here the whole time. Was just asking who had been in contact.

So Sam called me shortly after posting. He said that he can't post to this forum anymore/was blocked or something. Apparently they're down but still not out.

Sam, if you're reading this. You really have to keep the communication line open. I really appreciate the call, but more communication and delivering on promises is the only way you're going to be able dig your way out of this.... I've been calling for a long time before you rang me back today. But thanks for the call, need a lot more of that...

He told me that he's been trying to hold on to his technical guys through this situation, and they've been working on more projects. He also said that the V3 turbo kit WILL ship. But estimating 60 more days. Apparently the castings situation has been fixed and now all they need is piping. I'll definitely believe it when I see it. But that's on Sam to keep us informed.

In the meantime, sounds like GTM has been working on a roots supercharger kit. He sent me pics so far.

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psuusytuqi.jpg


http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psbkmqe6e6.jpg


http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psvhoapdqp.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...psqs1kzly3.jpg

In his words: "As i told you on the phone we intend to deliver the V3 kit and we have couple cool things in the works as well like a root style supercharger we started with doing the V8 Model and we are jumping on the VQ 37 VHR shortly , here are some pics on the root system ."

Hopefully GTM will dig themselves out of this one. But Sam needs to keep me and everyone else in the loop and deliver to do so. Companies live and die on customer service, and GTM has some catching up to do. Show me. Thanks Sam.

Beware! Group buy coming soon!

bullitt5897 04-15-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3169493)
Major changes? If so, they don't appear to be changes for the better.

The ability of customers to contact the shop has gotten worse it seems. The group buy they took money for several years ago still isn't finished, yet they are working on completely different projects. I wonder when they will start taking money for the VQ rootkit SC :wtf2:

JARblue,

They have moved to a new shop... and are in the process of setting that up. AS what was stated months and months ago that if they did move it would take months to get setup... Would you rather them take orders they cant deliver or get into a place where they can get better? What difference is calling and complaining going to make when they have to get their business back up in running to pay people back?

I am with you they should be more reachable and more clear. However, they are being extremely careful with the reopen as to not sink themselves from Sam's previous mistakes... he is not calling all the shots on this...

FPenvy 04-15-2015 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3169578)
JARblue,

They have moved to a new shop... and are in the process of setting that up. AS what was stated months and months ago that if they did move it would take months to get setup... Would you rather them take orders they cant deliver or get into a place where they can get better? What difference is calling and complaining going to make when they have to get their business back up in running to pay people back?

I am with you they should be more reachable and more clear. However, they are being extremely careful with the reopen as to not sink themselves from Sam's previous mistakes... he is not calling all the shots on this...

sam shouldn't be anywhere near the picture let alone be in it at this point.

please tell me they are going with a new name right? lol

I just think it'll be hard for anyone who knows about what GTM did to buy another product from the same "rebuilt" company.

starting anew with a clean slate would be the smartest way for them to get back in the show and make some money......sadly we will still probably know who they are and struggle to buy from lol

JARblue 04-15-2015 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3169578)
JARblue,

They have moved to a new shop... and are in the process of setting that up. AS what was stated months and months ago that if they did move it would take months to get setup... Would you rather them take orders they cant deliver or get into a place where they can get better? What difference is calling and complaining going to make when they have to get their business back up in running to pay people back?

I am with you they should be more reachable and more clear. However, they are being extremely careful with the reopen as to not sink themselves from Sam's previous mistakes... he is not calling all the shots on this...

That's all well and good, but I'm not talking about new customers. Its not like they declared bankruptcy and no longer had any customers. What about the people who still had their car at GTM's shop? Are they just supposed to not be able to speak with the shop while the shop gets their $hit together after scamming other customers using shoddy business practices? After all, this thread was started by someone who is a current customer and unable to reach the shop after going through four different phones numbers.

All I'm saying is that there does not appear to be any major changes in a positive direction. If there are positive changes, GTM should be trying to play them up. Instead it looks like they are hiding even more than before. Of course, it doesn't help when people come on here and post other projects they are working on. That just makes it seem like the same old shop - take money for one product, don't release it, and put that money in R&D for another product to take more money. If they think they can rework everything on their end without any publicity and then claim suddenly that they are a different shop with a different attitude, that's simply not going to work.

GrooveStyle 04-15-2015 11:33 AM

I think the main takeaway here is that after posting, I was able to hear back from Sam. GTM has not closed up shop (though they moved/downsized). The number on their website is the one to use to contact them. There ya go. Found what I was looking for. Thanks guys. The purpose of this thread is done.

JARblue 04-15-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrooveStyle (Post 3169642)
I think the main takeaway here is that after posting, I was able to hear back from Sam. GTM has not closed up shop (though they moved/downsized). The number on their website is the one to use to contact them. There ya go. Found what I was looking for. Thanks guys. The purpose of this thread is done.

FWIW, I am glad that he actually reached out to you. It was the absolute least he could have done in this scenario.

FPenvy 04-15-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrooveStyle (Post 3169642)
I think the main takeaway here is that after posting, I was able to hear back from Sam. GTM has not closed up shop (though they moved/downsized). The number on their website is the one to use to contact them. There ya go. Found what I was looking for. Thanks guys. The purpose of this thread is done.

yes and no.

kinda opened a whole new can of worms saying that Sam spoke to you which is like talking to Christ himself in terms of rarity AND that he said he's working R&D on a new SC for the VQ.

so you spoke to jesus and found the arc in the same day. :bowrofl:

JARblue 04-15-2015 11:36 AM

:icon18:

COSMO 04-15-2015 11:42 AM

I'm surprised this new thread isn't on lockdown yet... I say he needs to start by taking care of his original customers and addressing the cracked manifold issue that he is well aware of. I don't think at this point anyone can go after him for the turbo group buy because he wrote it off on his bankruptcy..

VABAM 04-15-2015 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3169651)
yes and no.

kinda opened a whole new can of worms saying that Sam spoke to you which is like talking to Christ himself in terms of rarity AND that he said he's working R&D on a new SC for the VQ.

so you spoke to jesus and found the arc in the same day. :bowrofl:

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Chuck33079 04-15-2015 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3169670)
I'm surprised this new thread isn't on lockdown yet... I say he needs to start by taking care of his original customers and addressing the cracked manifold issue that he is well aware of. I don't think at this point anyone can go after him for the turbo group buy because he wrote it off on his bankruptcy..

Why not just get the manifold welded and move on? No matter what Sam does, he's not going to help old customers. There's no money in it.

COSMO 04-15-2015 11:49 AM

I could but honestly it looks like the crack is made full circle and I worry it will just happening again in another spot then having to tear it all down again.. Plus I believe the downfall to the drivers side is the weight pulling down since the runners seem to be extended further out than the passenger side..

Chuck33079 04-15-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3169684)
I could but honestly it looks like the crack is made full circle and I worry it will just happening again in another spot then having to tear it all down again.. Plus I believe the downfall to the drivers side is the weight pulling down since the runners seem to be extended further out than the passenger side..

The guys I sent you contact info for told me we had nothing to worry about on welding those. Unless you just want all of Sam's parts off the car, it's not a showstopper of an issue.

VSS370z 04-15-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3169651)
yes and no.

kinda opened a whole new can of worms saying that Sam spoke to you which is like talking to Christ himself in terms of rarity AND that he said he's working R&D on a new SC for the VQ.

so you spoke to jesus and found the arc in the same day. :bowrofl:

:owned::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

COSMO 04-15-2015 12:08 PM

At this point I probably will have it fixed because I really don't want to have to shell out more money for another kit.. Thanks again chuck..:tup:
Also I need to tighten the wastegate a bit more while I have it off.. When I put it on I didn't put enough wastegate pressure on the spring.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3169685)
The guys I sent you contact info for told me we had nothing to worry about on welding those. Unless you just want all of Sam's parts off the car, it's not a showstopper of an issue.



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