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Originally Posted by phunk You are going to need some serious tires. Pick up a set of base model 350z rear brakes, I have test fit them - they fit

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Old 03-20-2015, 09:17 PM   #76 (permalink)
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You are going to need some serious tires. Pick up a set of base model 350z rear brakes, I have test fit them - they fit up no problem at all, just a little trimming to the dust shield required. Raise the suspension to near stock height. Align the rear to minimal camber (less than 1 degree). Then you can use some 15" wheels. Some 28x10.5 street radials with about 18psi in them. Disable the brake input at the ECU and deactivate the code for it, then you can get a nice 2nd gear burnout going. With some practice, if your clutch survives, you wont get any tire spin!
Won't u need axles from drive shaft shop? I also heard u will break the diff mounts? I believe it is after the first if not second launch. I know they had to reinforce weld the diff mounts(if Im using the right words) on terribleones after the second launch cuz it broke. I have not went to the strip because of his very reason. They have weekend drags all the time but my car gets expensive having to transport it to Cali whenever it breaks down sides of not being a car guru like master phunk
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You dont need axles. The trick to not breaking the driveline is to preload before launching. Which is very easy, just very lightly let up the clutch until you feel the drivetrain is loaded and then slip it out hard. No problem. You should be doing this always anyway. It doesnt hurt to carry a spare axle with you... but overall the stock axles can handle the power. Shocking the driveline will break any axles you put in sooner than later.

As for the diff mount, you just need to install the whiteline differential bushings. The stock bushings are too soft and will fail quickly. These bushings are cheap and install is pretty easy... hardest part is getting the stock rear one out. There is no welding or fabricating involved.
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You dont need axles. The trick to not breaking the driveline is to preload before launching. Which is very easy, just very lightly let up the clutch until you feel the drivetrain is loaded and then slip it out hard. No problem. You should be doing this always anyway. It doesnt hurt to carry a spare axle with you... but overall the stock axles can handle the power. Shocking the driveline will break any axles you put in sooner than later.

As for the diff mount, you just need to install the whiteline differential bushings. The stock bushings are too soft and will fail quickly. These bushings are cheap and install is pretty easy... hardest part is getting the stock rear one out. There is no welding or fabricating involved.
Lmao ok that translates into you don't know what the F u are doing and yoir gonna break your high dollar toy I have white line bushings. I know tony at fast intentions welded something on terrible ones car that broke on launch. Sorry I'm not enuf of a car guy to articulate but I'm always up for learning. Thank you phunk for clarifying about preloading the drive train, I though only autos could do this depending on the tire u are running.

ok now back to talking about how badass bullets car is
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If they welded anything it was probably just to repair damage from the stock bushings failing before upgrading to the white line ones.. Otherwise I can't think of anything back there to weld on.
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Hurry da fak up and start cutting then Charles! don't worry man you know that my car is being built for straight light purposes so I'm going to be shooting for deep nines. Maybe next spring after I've had plenty of passes under my belt ill shoot for a perfect 8 second run but that's going to take some serious time spent at the strip with this 6MT
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So i took my dad for a ride on saturday since the weather was nice. It was his first time seeing the car since I shipped it out. His impression on the car was:

"This is a freaking rocket ship... no its a star ship! Once you hit the gas I was pinned to the seat and couldn't even move! It just ungodly fast! even my race bikes wouldn't stand a chance against this! I felt like i was seeing stars and thought the car was going to do a wheelie!"

Needless to say he had a blast and it was only a short ride. we hit 25psi which is in the 900+rwhp range on a couple of runs.
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Lmao ok that translates into you don't know what the F u are doing and yoir gonna break your high dollar toy I have white line bushings. I know tony at fast intentions welded something on terrible ones car that broke on launch. Sorry I'm not enuf of a car guy to articulate but I'm always up for learning. Thank you phunk for clarifying about preloading the drive train, I though only autos could do this depending on the tire u are running.

ok now back to talking about how badass bullets car is
He is actually right. I skip the water, square up and reverse a little, the spank the grit and **** off the tires. I try to get second light staged first and as fast as possible, once the other driver gets first stage, ebrake at full yank, start slipping the clutch ever so slightly while doing my best to hold revs at 3.2-5k. When they get second stage, slip even harder, the *** starts to squat really hard at this point, can only do this for a few seconds because it takes a serious toll on the clutch, I have glazed it over a few times already. Lights drop, side step the clutch, feather the throttle a little trying to maintain traction, bang rev limiter at 7.8k while stabbing the clutch and no lift on throttle pedal, snag second. Miss that and just might as well coast to the end.

But yes you can load up the car really well in a manual, but requires a lot of hand and foot work. Also, like he said smaller brakes on the rear, 15-16" wheel, zero to a degree positive camber on the rear, air down tires. I haven't gone as far as smaller brakes, but I am finally going to a 18" wedsport TC105n with MT street slicks in the rear this year. Even dropping the tire pressure on a 19 to around 25psi makes a world of difference. If you kill the motor, not launching at a high enough RPM and try again.
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i am glad to see this unicorn running, i remember seeing this car on youtube a couple years ago when i first got my nismo 370z

you should go to TX2K15 and race for some dough, I'm sure you'll make some big bucks eating some of those cars out there
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I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!
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Lol maybe one day... Still sorting through stuff and needing Jon to get the z1 dyno ready...
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I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!
thats why you pick on the 700-900hp corrvettes XD

either way i can't wait to see what your car makes fully tuned
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Need AWD like the GTR or Lambo.
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Need AWD like the GTR or Lambo.
And a soft rear suspension. Changing rear geometry a bit to have no camber, taller tires, super soft drag radials, and some meaty balls and you'd have a drag car to compete with the best of them...That's a ton of freakin power man!! nice job for sure
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I think he can go after a lot of cars with 200-300 more HP. The Z is "light" in comparison to a lot of cars out there. If it's a rolling start, lookout!
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the Z is pretty light, you could hang with many of the cars there. And who cares if you can't win, it's the whole experience of it all and plus when you got a 1000whp car, that's the competition you got to go against. Lol.

But anyways, when's the next dyno run? I wanna see the real powa of that monster!
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