Project White Dragon Lives! 450zTT 850+ RWHP on 93oct "Dyno Broke"

tturbo370z · 03-20-2015, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

You are going to need some serious tires. Pick up a set of base model 350z rear brakes, I have test fit them - they fit up no problem at all, just a little trimming to the dust shield required. Raise the suspension to near stock height. Align the rear to minimal camber (less than 1 degree). Then you can use some 15" wheels. Some 28x10.5 street radials with about 18psi in them. Disable the brake input at the ECU and deactivate the code for it, then you can get a nice 2nd gear burnout going. With some practice, if your clutch survives, you wont get any tire spin!

Won't u need axles from drive shaft shop? I also heard u will break the diff mounts? I believe it is after the first if not second launch. I know they had to reinforce weld the diff mounts(if Im using the right words) on terribleones after the second launch cuz it broke. I have not went to the strip because of his very reason. They have weekend drags all the time but my car gets expensive having to transport it to Cali whenever it breaks down

sides of not being a car guru like master phunk

phunk · 03-20-2015, 10:28 PM

You dont need axles. The trick to not breaking the driveline is to preload before launching. Which is very easy, just very lightly let up the clutch until you feel the drivetrain is loaded and then slip it out hard. No problem. You should be doing this always anyway. It doesnt hurt to carry a spare axle with you... but overall the stock axles can handle the power. Shocking the driveline will break any axles you put in sooner than later.

As for the diff mount, you just need to install the whiteline differential bushings. The stock bushings are too soft and will fail quickly. These bushings are cheap and install is pretty easy... hardest part is getting the stock rear one out. There is no welding or fabricating involved.

tturbo370z · 03-21-2015, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk

You dont need axles. The trick to not breaking the driveline is to preload before launching. Which is very easy, just very lightly let up the clutch until you feel the drivetrain is loaded and then slip it out hard. No problem. You should be doing this always anyway. It doesnt hurt to carry a spare axle with you... but overall the stock axles can handle the power. Shocking the driveline will break any axles you put in sooner than later.

As for the diff mount, you just need to install the whiteline differential bushings. The stock bushings are too soft and will fail quickly. These bushings are cheap and install is pretty easy... hardest part is getting the stock rear one out. There is no welding or fabricating involved.

Lmao ok that translates into you don't know what the F u are doing and yoir gonna break your high dollar toy

I have white line bushings. I know tony at fast intentions welded something on terrible ones car that broke on launch. Sorry I'm not enuf of a car guy to articulate but I'm always up for learning. Thank you phunk for clarifying about preloading the drive train, I though only autos could do this depending on the tire u are running.

ok now back to talking about how badass bullets car is

phunk · 03-21-2015, 12:20 AM

If they welded anything it was probably just to repair damage from the stock bushings failing before upgrading to the white line ones.. Otherwise I can't think of anything back there to weld on.

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-21-2015, 12:03 PM

Hurry da fak up and start cutting then Charles!

don't worry man you know that my car is being built for straight light purposes so I'm going to be shooting for deep nines. Maybe next spring after I've had plenty of passes under my belt ill shoot for a perfect 8 second run but that's going to take some serious time spent at the strip with this 6MT

bullitt5897 · 03-23-2015, 10:52 AM

So i took my dad for a ride on saturday since the weather was nice. It was his first time seeing the car since I shipped it out. His impression on the car was:

"This is a freaking rocket ship... no its a star ship! Once you hit the gas I was pinned to the seat and couldn't even move! It just ungodly fast! even my race bikes wouldn't stand a chance against this! I felt like i was seeing stars and thought the car was going to do a wheelie!"

Needless to say he had a blast and it was only a short ride. we hit 25psi which is in the 900+rwhp range on a couple of runs.

Japanjay · 03-23-2015, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tturbo370z

Lmao ok that translates into you don't know what the F u are doing and yoir gonna break your high dollar toy

I have white line bushings. I know tony at fast intentions welded something on terrible ones car that broke on launch. Sorry I'm not enuf of a car guy to articulate but I'm always up for learning. Thank you phunk for clarifying about preloading the drive train, I though only autos could do this depending on the tire u are running.

ok now back to talking about how badass bullets car is

He is actually right. I skip the water, square up and reverse a little, the spank the grit and **** off the tires. I try to get second light staged first and as fast as possible, once the other driver gets first stage, ebrake at full yank, start slipping the clutch ever so slightly while doing my best to hold revs at 3.2-5k. When they get second stage, slip even harder, the *** starts to squat really hard at this point, can only do this for a few seconds because it takes a serious toll on the clutch, I have glazed it over a few times already. Lights drop, side step the clutch, feather the throttle a little trying to maintain traction, bang rev limiter at 7.8k while stabbing the clutch and no lift on throttle pedal, snag second. Miss that and just might as well coast to the end.

But yes you can load up the car really well in a manual, but requires a lot of hand and foot work. Also, like he said smaller brakes on the rear, 15-16" wheel, zero to a degree positive camber on the rear, air down tires. I haven't gone as far as smaller brakes, but I am finally going to a 18" wedsport TC105n with MT street slicks in the rear this year. Even dropping the tire pressure on a 19 to around 25psi makes a world of difference. If you kill the motor, not launching at a high enough RPM and try again.

luigi90210 · 03-25-2015, 05:23 PM

i am glad to see this unicorn running, i remember seeing this car on youtube a couple years ago when i first got my nismo 370z

you should go to TX2K15 and race for some dough, I'm sure you'll make some big bucks eating some of those cars out there

bullitt5897 · 03-25-2015, 05:54 PM

I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

bullitt5897 · 03-25-2015, 05:55 PM

Lol maybe one day... Still sorting through stuff and needing Jon to get the z1 dyno ready...

luigi90210 · 03-26-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

thats why you pick on the 700-900hp corrvettes XD

either way i can't wait to see what your car makes fully tuned

KratikosG37 · 03-26-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

Need AWD like the GTR or Lambo.

victorofhavoc · 03-26-2015, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KratikosG37

Need AWD like the GTR or Lambo.

And a soft rear suspension. Changing rear geometry a bit to have no camber, taller tires, super soft drag radials, and some meaty balls and you'd have a drag car to compete with the best of them...That's a ton of freakin power man!! nice job for sure

roplusbee · 03-26-2015, 10:48 PM

I think he can go after a lot of cars with 200-300 more HP. The Z is "light" in comparison to a lot of cars out there. If it's a rolling start, lookout!

whiteZ34 · 03-28-2015, 09:02 PM

the Z is pretty light, you could hang with many of the cars there. And who cares if you can't win, it's the whole experience of it all and plus when you got a 1000whp car, that's the competition you got to go against. Lol.

But anyways, when's the next dyno run? I wanna see the real powa of that monster!

03-20-2015, 10:28 PM	#77 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	You dont need axles. The trick to not breaking the driveline is to preload before launching. Which is very easy, just very lightly let up the clutch until you feel the drivetrain is loaded and then slip it out hard. No problem. You should be doing this always anyway. It doesnt hurt to carry a spare axle with you... but overall the stock axles can handle the power. Shocking the driveline will break any axles you put in sooner than later. As for the diff mount, you just need to install the whiteline differential bushings. The stock bushings are too soft and will fail quickly. These bushings are cheap and install is pretty easy... hardest part is getting the stock rear one out. There is no welding or fabricating involved. bullitt5897, GaleForce, Japanjay and 3 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 03-20-2015 at 10:30 PM.

03-21-2015, 12:20 AM	#79 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	If they welded anything it was probably just to repair damage from the stock bushings failing before upgrading to the white line ones.. Otherwise I can't think of anything back there to weld on. bullitt5897 and tturbo370z like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

03-21-2015, 12:03 PM	#80 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 44	Hurry da fak up and start cutting then Charles! don't worry man you know that my car is being built for straight light purposes so I'm going to be shooting for deep nines. Maybe next spring after I've had plenty of passes under my belt ill shoot for a perfect 8 second run but that's going to take some serious time spent at the strip with this 6MT bullitt5897, phunk, GaleForce and 1 others like this. __________________ Always under construction. . .

03-23-2015, 10:52 AM	#81 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	So i took my dad for a ride on saturday since the weather was nice. It was his first time seeing the car since I shipped it out. His impression on the car was: "This is a freaking rocket ship... no its a star ship! Once you hit the gas I was pinned to the seat and couldn't even move! It just ungodly fast! even my race bikes wouldn't stand a chance against this! I felt like i was seeing stars and thought the car was going to do a wheelie!" Needless to say he had a blast and it was only a short ride. we hit 25psi which is in the 900+rwhp range on a couple of runs. G37Sam, FPenvy, Masterbeatty and 5 others like this. __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

03-25-2015, 05:23 PM	#83 (permalink)
luigi90210 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,103 Drives: Classified Rep Power: 15	i am glad to see this unicorn running, i remember seeing this car on youtube a couple years ago when i first got my nismo 370z you should go to TX2K15 and race for some dough, I'm sure you'll make some big bucks eating some of those cars out there __________________ SOLD 370z New Car:classified DD:2011 Mini Cooper S stock

03-25-2015, 05:54 PM	#84 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

03-25-2015, 05:55 PM	#85 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	Lol maybe one day... Still sorting through stuff and needing Jon to get the z1 dyno ready... __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

03-26-2015, 10:48 PM	#89 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	I think he can go after a lot of cars with 200-300 more HP. The Z is "light" in comparison to a lot of cars out there. If it's a rolling start, lookout! Rid3_FaM0uS and whiteZ34 like this. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

03-28-2015, 09:02 PM	#90 (permalink)
whiteZ34 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 32 Posts: 217 Drives: 2012 Boosted 370z Rep Power: 12	the Z is pretty light, you could hang with many of the cars there. And who cares if you can't win, it's the whole experience of it all and plus when you got a 1000whp car, that's the competition you got to go against. Lol. But anyways, when's the next dyno run? I wanna see the real powa of that monster! __________________ R/T Built motor, wiseco 9:1 Pistons, Eagle H-beam rods, ARP L-19\| BP kit, PTE 6766, EPS 70mm TB, GTR Intake, PRS lower conversion\| ID1000cc, CJM Twin pump 340&255, PRS Rails, CJM fuel return\| Fast Intentions\| R/T Tuned, 660WHP 596WTQ at 18lbs. 93 octane

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