Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 3028215)

I actually completely disagree. The bar was very well engineered for this not to happen. All of the forces being applied to the bolts are in sheer, and the steel is 350mpa CDW roll cage tubing. If the lower bolts (M8, 130mm long, grade 12) and the spacers are used, the bar physically cannot pivot downward. Also, bolts actually replace OEM mounting points of the support bar to the frame(strongest points of the car), zero drilling/modifying needed.

Here are a few photos in the raw of the actual connection points. You'll see that they do not go into the "support bar" which is very thin which is not recommended to support harnesses, rather they go into the actual supporting joints to hold in the support bar which are much thicker. Also, they bar goes back far enough to fully be prevented from rotating downward in the event of an accident, so all of this talk about it rotating around in the event of an accident, is irrelevant.





Take a peak at the difference between the bar you posted and this one in the same raw stage. The bar is solid from end to end, and comes backward with sheer connection points focused on quality and safey.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps34c4c2cf.jpg

Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 3028215)

I actually completely disagree. The bar was very well engineered for this not to happen. All of the forces being applied to the bolts are in sheer, and the steel is 350mpa CDW roll cage tubing. If the lower bolts (M8, 130mm long, grade 12) and the spacers are used, the bar physically cannot pivot downward. Also, bolts actually replace OEM mounting points of the support bar to the frame(strongest points of the car), zero drilling/modifying needed.

Here are a few photos in the raw of the actual connection points. You'll see that they do not go into the "support bar" which is very thin which is not recommended to support harnesses, rather they go into the actual supporting joints to hold in the support bar which are much thicker. Also, they bar goes back far enough to fully be prevented from rotating downward in the event of an accident, so all of this talk about it rotating around in the event of an accident, is irrelevant.





Take a peak at the difference between the bar you posted and this one in the same raw stage. The bar is solid from end to end, and comes backward with sheer connection points focused on quality and safey.

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3028579)

when I see those pictures all i can think of is how thin those end brackets are

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3028631)

No i mean the seatbelt ends what is that angle sheet metal?

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 3069040)

I had a "bolt in" cage installed in the spring. That being said there was some welding done on the rear strut tower and behind the seats on the floor. Each weld point contains about 6" of solid bar that uses some sort of intersecting cross point which ultimately is bolted together making the rest of the cage removable. For instance I can completely remove the rear portion of the cage by removing 8 screws, 2 at each mounting point. The points are as follows, one at each of the rear strut tower, one at each corner of the top of the main halo. When unbolted the rear section slides out of the hatch. The main halo is removable through the driver/ passenger doors. I know that is a lot at once, but ultimately, yes it can be done and can look very clean if done right.

I was in discussion with the speed shop that made mine about reproducing these for resale, but at this point it will have to wait until spring. If you're interested send me a PM.