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Bauran 09-26-2013 06:44 AM

Emblem Adhesive
 
Good morning, does anyone know offhand what the name of the OEM adhesive is called that Nissan uses to attach their brand badges to the front and rear of the car?

I have an emblem off and would like to reattach it properly without utilizing 3M 2 sided tape, which I know will work but would just rather use factory OEM stuff.

From the looks of the residue left on the car it almost looks like a injected type material, tar like.

Any help greatly appreciated.

LostSol 09-26-2013 07:42 AM

3M automotive double sided tape

Chuck33079 09-26-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LostSol (Post 2505347)
3M automotive double sided tape

I was going to suggest the same thing, but he specifically said "no 3m". It's still the way to go, OP. Get the adhesion promoter stuff, and clean the paint really well.

JARblue 09-26-2013 08:13 AM

How do you know the OEM stuff isn't 3M?

SouthArk370Z 09-26-2013 08:43 AM

The FSM will sometimes list non-Nissan tools and consumables.

kenchan 09-26-2013 09:50 AM

yah, you can use 3M mounting tape for exterior or automotive.

i suppose if you want to go the extra mile, get some VHB tape, but that imo is overkill for something small like emblems.

USMCASA 09-26-2013 01:25 PM

i used to work at a body shop before i got a real job. worked on my own 370z. 99% sure factory adhesive is almost exactly the same as the 3m product, just depends on the thickness you desire. i've reattached emblems with the 3m product and there is no difference and not noticeable.

Zbrah 09-26-2013 01:29 PM

Industrial Super glue if you fear your emblem falling off.

kenchan 09-26-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 2506108)
i used to work at a body shop before i got a real job. worked on my own 370z. 99% sure factory adhesive is almost exactly the same as the 3m product, just depends on the thickness you desire. i've reattached emblems with the 3m product and there is no difference and not noticeable.


yep, i wouldn't be surprised if nissan and bodyshops are buying the same 3M tapes.

3M has a HUGE selection of tapes so it's a matter of getting the right one for the application. which sometimes can be pretty confusing...

kenchan 09-26-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2506114)
Industrial Super glue if you fear your emblem falling off.

for me, i try not to use liquid adhesives because it's usually irreversable. just in case down the road you want to remove or swap emblems (for watever reason including corrosion or scratch), the superglue can tear off the paint.

Chuck33079 09-26-2013 01:32 PM

**** it, JB Weld that sumbitch on.

Zbrah 09-26-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2506121)
for me, i try not to use liquid adhesives because it's usually irreversable. just in case down the road you want to remove or swap emblems (for watever reason including corrosion or scratch), the superglue can tear off the paint.

lol I agree, I only suggest super glue because OP refuse to use 3M everyone suggested

jcosta79 09-26-2013 01:44 PM

Use this: 3M Scotch-Weld™ DP190 Translucent Epoxy Adhesive S-19227 - Uline

It ain't coming off.

Ever.

Chuck33079 09-26-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2506141)

It may if the car is on fire. It's only rated to 350 degrees.

kenchan 09-26-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2506122)
**** it, JB Weld that sumbitch on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2506149)
It may if the car is on fire. It's only rated to 350 degrees.


+ sheet metal screws. yes, that will keep it on probably.


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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2506133)
lol I agree, I only suggest super glue because OP refuse to use 3M everyone suggested

:icon18:

LostSol 09-26-2013 02:33 PM

the previous owner superglued the emblem on the bumper after crappily painting it. when i went to remove it, most of the paint from behind the emblem peeled up as well

kenchan 09-26-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LostSol (Post 2506247)
the previous owner superglued the emblem on the bumper after crappily painting it. when i went to remove it, most of the paint from behind the emblem peeled up as well

yep.. :(

Bauran 09-26-2013 05:08 PM

Wowza lots of info, thanks all. Its not that I refuse to use 3m double back tape, its that that is what I used and it was centered when installed but the following day sun (I assume) it shifted down almost to the point it had shifted over the outside bottom edge of the recess.

I didn't want to mention it because the emblem I installed is a forum regular supplier but if it helps me get this fixed maybe the info will help. I got a pair, front and back, of the EVO R chrome Z emblem with black carbon fiber backing.

The reason I assumed OEM adhesive was different was because the original nissan emblem was held in place by a tar like substance the had rounded edges similar to when a tube of adhesive gets spread out then pressed between two solid flat surfaces.

also if need be I can get some pictures put together so everyone can see what I'm dealing with. Let me know, and again thanks for all the advice and help.

•edit- picture of issue...


http://www.the370z.com/members/baura...2163-image.jpg

Sorry if picture isn't clear enough from the angle but in eyesight you can see the overlap at the bottom where its sliding out of the recess and the top gap in the picture is between 3/8" and a 1/4" below where I originally set it. Very VERY noticeable in person, at least to me

critical 09-28-2013 12:18 AM

I just set my emblem today using automotive 3m tape. The emblem has mounting holes. It should not move. Maybe it's your aftermarket emblem?

Bauran 09-28-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2508040)
I just set my emblem today using automotive 3m tape. The emblem has mounting holes. It should not move. Maybe it's your aftermarket emblem?

You're correct there are two little dimples in the back of the emblem that I had to line up with tabs to get it to sit down. I will contact the vendor to see if it can be sent back and replaced...hell I may even just put the nissan emblem back on with the carbon fiber backing left in place. Idk

thanks for the help all and to the mod for moving this to the appropriate place, sorry for making thread in wrong place.

LostSol 09-28-2013 09:25 AM

I had that same emblem and ended up getting rid of it because I could never get it to sit "right"

Gilianz 09-28-2013 09:55 AM

So which 3M tape is everyone referring to? I keep wanting to take off front and rear badges and paint them black but I'm not sure what to use to re-adhere it to the car.

LostSol 09-28-2013 10:32 AM

3m VHB is super strong, id use that.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...=5485815&rt=c3

they make different thicknesses as well which might help you make that emblem look a bit more natural

ETnismo 10-02-2013 08:58 PM

this thread is a few days old but i removed all of my emblems including the "370z" and "nismo" and reattached using the 3m tape and have had no issues and thats even with it sitting under this hot texas sun

AdamRacer 10-03-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilianz (Post 2508281)
So which 3M tape is everyone referring to? I keep wanting to take off front and rear badges and paint them black but I'm not sure what to use to re-adhere it to the car.

Why not just plasti-dip them on the car? Then you won't have to worry about reapplying them and making sure they are 100% centered.

ETnismo 10-03-2013 08:01 PM

i thought about the plastidip option but wanted something more permanent and i couldnt be happier about the way they turned out. very nice gloss on them and i think they look great. putting them back on actually wasnt a very big deal at all


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