Carbon Fiber Hood

Gapaxbr · 05-07-2013, 10:00 PM

Hello all, I'm looking to purchase a new hood for the 370. there are many options to choose from so I need help in picking one. I know many cost in the range of 8-900 but some are up to 6k for dry carbon. Is the ultra high end hood worth the price. Is the performance of the expensive hood appreciable compared to say another at 1K but its FRP instead. I mean is going to crack after I install it for a week? I've looked at many options like seibon, veilside, amuse (my favorite) but I don't know if its worth that premium price tag.

Thank you!

Vichtz · 05-07-2013, 11:13 PM

anything is worth what you are willing to pay. You could go forced induction for the price of a hood like that. What performance are you expecting from a hood? ventilation maybe, but not more than 1000 dollars worth (that includes shipping). That would be how much I would pay if I wanted the carbon fiber look. Fiberglass/urethane hoods do the same thing but for much less money, but are slightly heavier than dry carbon. I don't know, unless you are really into the look, that is really way too much IMO. But do what you want haha it's your car. I'm up in college station, if you get a 6k hood you ought to drive down and let me see it haha

FYI cracking from any manufacturer is doubtful, but fitment issues may occur. However most of the time, particularly hoods from the manufacturers you listed, seem to fit just fine.

Reaper42 · 05-07-2013, 11:17 PM

Unless you are rich beyond your wildest dreams, buying a premium real dry carbon hood like the amuse one is a huge waste of money, its only going to be slightly lighter than stock aluminum hood. When it comes to the more budget minded hoods like seibon, they are actually heavier than stock hoods. So that's more of a visual upgrade not a "performance" upgrade. Only other hoods really available is Varis, which has better craftsmanship than seibon, but again they have their wet carbon/frp hoods which arent full carbon and are heavier than stock, and then they have their expensive dry carbon hoods which are super expensive and only a lil lighter than stock.

All comes down on what kind of car you are looking to build. Full blow track car with unlimited funds, every lb saved helps so go with the super expensive dry carbon hoods. Slightly modified street car on a budget go with seibon.

Gapaxbr · 05-07-2013, 11:25 PM

haha ok lets go with the budget, maybe one day i'll get the amuse.

Wonka2581 · 05-07-2013, 11:25 PM

Unless your into shaving as much weight as possible and trying to win races against (factory racing teams) I would go with the cheaper hood, you get the same look just about and have extra coin for more mods... Just my 2 cents! Let us know what you go with and post pics.

Gapaxbr · 05-07-2013, 11:33 PM

do the other hoods like the seibon weigh that much more than the stock? are we talking negligible amounts here?

DarkJak · 05-08-2013, 01:18 AM

I believe most of the wet CF hoods are 2-5 lbs more than stock. Varis's was a couple lbs lighter. Their dry cf, as well as most other dry hoods are gonna be 5-10 lbs. Which percentage wise is a lot, but you're paying 3000-6000 bucks for those lbs.

A lightweight battery can save you 10-20+ lbs and those are only a few hundred bucks. For the price of a dry cf hood, you could get 2-piece floating rotors all around, or a BBK, which would save you easily over 10 lbs in unsprung weight. 2pc fronts alone would save 10-20 lbs depending on the brand. You could get just about any set of wheels for that price and save 2-3 lbs per corner of rotating mass. Or get some nice seats, which could save 10-20 lbs per seat.

If I were rich enough to spend 6k on a hood for weight savings, looks and vents, I'd probably just spend 1k on a vented wet cf hood and the rest on one or two of the above and come out with a much nicer car.

MJB · 05-08-2013, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gapaxbr

do the other hoods like the seibon weigh that much more than the stock? are we talking negligible amounts here?

Seibon TS hood is 21lbs... stock hood is 16lbs.

SgtGoldy · 05-08-2013, 02:12 AM

I was totally under the impression CF hoods like from seibon would be lighter. I was planning on going with one for both looks & weight reduction. Not anymore

Gapaxbr · 05-08-2013, 06:30 AM

Ok so 20 lbs vs 16 lbs, do the vents cool the engine significantly or are they purely cosmetic? I guess the additional weight gain is offset by the vents haha

Chuck33079 · 05-08-2013, 07:41 AM

Don't forget to budget in a few bucks more to have the hood re-cleared. Most of the CF parts I've seen needed another shot of clear to keep them from yellowing from sun exposure.

theDreamer · 05-08-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtGoldy

I was totally under the impression CF hoods like from seibon would be lighter. I was planning on going with one for both looks & weight reduction. Not anymore

No, because they use a base material and then wrap CF around it adding weight.
I like the Seibon hood, probably ordering one this year for the vents (Seibon TS style), to help regulate heat better. I agree with chuck that if you get it I would suggest getting it cleared again to protect it. My choice is I am painting the whole thing graphite to match my car.

SgtGoldy · 05-08-2013, 07:55 AM

paint everything but the vents. I love that look

theDreamer · 05-08-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtGoldy

paint everything but the vents. I love that look

I keep going back & forth, there is a member here who did the vents CF and the rest PG.
Another option someone told me this past week, spray it all but just light enough you can see the CF weave through the paint if you want.

Chuck33079 · 05-08-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

spray it all but just light enough you can see the CF weave through the paint if you want.

If I ever buy a hood this is the plan for it. I'm just too OCD about engine bay cleanliness to go with a hood with holes in it.

05-07-2013, 10:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gapaxbr Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 9 Drives: Nissan 370z 2013 Red Rep Power: 13	Carbon Fiber Hood Hello all, I'm looking to purchase a new hood for the 370. there are many options to choose from so I need help in picking one. I know many cost in the range of 8-900 but some are up to 6k for dry carbon. Is the ultra high end hood worth the price. Is the performance of the expensive hood appreciable compared to say another at 1K but its FRP instead. I mean is going to crack after I install it for a week? I've looked at many options like seibon, veilside, amuse (my favorite) but I don't know if its worth that premium price tag. Thank you!

05-07-2013, 11:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vichtz Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Unknown Posts: 538 Drives: PG 09 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	anything is worth what you are willing to pay. You could go forced induction for the price of a hood like that. What performance are you expecting from a hood? ventilation maybe, but not more than 1000 dollars worth (that includes shipping). That would be how much I would pay if I wanted the carbon fiber look. Fiberglass/urethane hoods do the same thing but for much less money, but are slightly heavier than dry carbon. I don't know, unless you are really into the look, that is really way too much IMO. But do what you want haha it's your car. I'm up in college station, if you get a 6k hood you ought to drive down and let me see it haha FYI cracking from any manufacturer is doubtful, but fitment issues may occur. However most of the time, particularly hoods from the manufacturers you listed, seem to fit just fine. fonzo179 likes this. __________________ очень быстро ... Stillen Gen 3 CAI// Stillen CBE// B&M SS with PWJDM Shift Knob// Custom OCC// Drilled/Slotted Rotors//Halo/painted Headlights// Under-hood dress up Last edited by Vichtz; 05-08-2013 at 09:48 AM.

05-07-2013, 11:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Reaper42 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,030 Drives: GetLucky370 Rep Power: 18	Unless you are rich beyond your wildest dreams, buying a premium real dry carbon hood like the amuse one is a huge waste of money, its only going to be slightly lighter than stock aluminum hood. When it comes to the more budget minded hoods like seibon, they are actually heavier than stock hoods. So that's more of a visual upgrade not a "performance" upgrade. Only other hoods really available is Varis, which has better craftsmanship than seibon, but again they have their wet carbon/frp hoods which arent full carbon and are heavier than stock, and then they have their expensive dry carbon hoods which are super expensive and only a lil lighter than stock. All comes down on what kind of car you are looking to build. Full blow track car with unlimited funds, every lb saved helps so go with the super expensive dry carbon hoods. Slightly modified street car on a budget go with seibon. GaleForce and 370z2013 like this. __________________ Sponsor roll call: Get Lucky Brand \| TOYO TIRES \| Element Graphics \| Unique Fabrication Follow on fb- Jon Sackett and Instagram @GetLucky370 GetLucky370

05-07-2013, 11:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2611	Unless your into shaving as much weight as possible and trying to win races against (factory racing teams) I would go with the cheaper hood, you get the same look just about and have extra coin for more mods... Just my 2 cents! Let us know what you go with and post pics. __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

05-08-2013, 01:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	I believe most of the wet CF hoods are 2-5 lbs more than stock. Varis's was a couple lbs lighter. Their dry cf, as well as most other dry hoods are gonna be 5-10 lbs. Which percentage wise is a lot, but you're paying 3000-6000 bucks for those lbs. A lightweight battery can save you 10-20+ lbs and those are only a few hundred bucks. For the price of a dry cf hood, you could get 2-piece floating rotors all around, or a BBK, which would save you easily over 10 lbs in unsprung weight. 2pc fronts alone would save 10-20 lbs depending on the brand. You could get just about any set of wheels for that price and save 2-3 lbs per corner of rotating mass. Or get some nice seats, which could save 10-20 lbs per seat. If I were rich enough to spend 6k on a hood for weight savings, looks and vents, I'd probably just spend 1k on a vented wet cf hood and the rest on one or two of the above and come out with a much nicer car. __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

05-07-2013, 11:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gapaxbr Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 9 Drives: Nissan 370z 2013 Red Rep Power: 13	haha ok lets go with the budget, maybe one day i'll get the amuse.

05-07-2013, 11:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gapaxbr Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 9 Drives: Nissan 370z 2013 Red Rep Power: 13	do the other hoods like the seibon weigh that much more than the stock? are we talking negligible amounts here?

05-08-2013, 02:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	I was totally under the impression CF hoods like from seibon would be lighter. I was planning on going with one for both looks & weight reduction. Not anymore __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

05-08-2013, 06:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Gapaxbr Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 9 Drives: Nissan 370z 2013 Red Rep Power: 13	Ok so 20 lbs vs 16 lbs, do the vents cool the engine significantly or are they purely cosmetic? I guess the additional weight gain is offset by the vents haha

05-08-2013, 07:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Don't forget to budget in a few bucks more to have the hood re-cleared. Most of the CF parts I've seen needed another shot of clear to keep them from yellowing from sun exposure. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-08-2013, 07:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	paint everything but the vents. I love that look __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

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