Pissed. Going to just break it in a minute.

ImportConvert

Hey, I didn't destroy anything after-all. It's little crap that frustrates me. Big stuff, I can deal with. Little stuff like my ear-buds getting tangled? I flip. I know this, so I came and bitched about it until I was calm enough to go back and solve the problem. Being a **** to your own stuff online > Breaking expensive crap.

ImportConvert

Haha.

My corvette actually had less squeaks and rattles, which I am kinda ticked about. Initial build quality of my 370Z was very good. Now? I would rate it as medium. It develops buzzes and squeaks and rattles pretty quickly it seems.

b1adesofcha0s

I was gonna say the same thing

I can't even imagine what your reaction would be if you went through a steering lock failure.

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ImportConvert

Totally different from seeing something inches away that you cannot get at and tweezering after it with all manner of things only to have it resolutely stay put in a very expensive and fragile alcove. Mocking you, yet unattainable.

You no get dis! You no get dis! NANANAANA!!!!
....But Bilo get dat!

shaun66

The more I drive mine the more it rattles Theres one in the hatch, the center console by the radio, and the headliner now lol

ImportConvert

Wierd. This is the only car I have owned that does this. All of my others either rattle, or don't. They don't develop new one's. Anyway, I digress. The Japanese engineer things really weird compared to what I am used to and I don't like it and have yet to see anything but complications resulting from it. I won't be having another, but I don't hate mine. It's a tolerable relationship with moments both good and bad.

Tazicon

Interesting read, thats for sure. Since I currently own both American and Jap products I think you are way off base. Good rant though glad you got it out here and not on your car.

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ImportConvert

That was my goal.

I have found from working on both American and Japanese cars that they are vastly different. Everything about how things are done on them is different. I grew up working on American cars. Everything on them "makes sense" regarding mechanics. The Japanese stuff appears overly complex, is very fragile in comparison in my experience (once you reach 100K miles, you WILL have broken suspension parts, motor mounts, Transmission mounts, etc. on a Japanese vehicle. At least, Nissan/Infiniti. With American cars, you replace a tie rod and rock on, if that. Maybe a bushing squeaks.), and while it looks "oh so neat" when it's put together, and has all these little tweaks and adjustments, it just doesn't get it done the way I am used to.

Suspension systems are a HUGE example of this. My corvette looked SO SENSIBLY under there. My Japanese cars have parts that even Infiniti master techs shook their heads at and ask "WTF is that for!?" when they see it. Parts diagrams don't even exist for some of that stuff what was under my G20.

It's over-engineered and under-delivers, is what I am trying to say, while managing to be more frustrating and expensive to work on.

Just my .02 from when I wrenched on my own stuff instead of just taking it in for warranty work now that I buy new. (Will probably buy CPO in the future, but had to own a couple of new one's. Grew up poor, all that, wanted to see what the fuss was about with a NEW car.)

They do stupid stuff. Like put the thermostat on the BOTTOM where all the coolant must come out to change it. Just dumb crap like that. I don't like how the Japanese build a car if I am ever going to have to lay a wrench to it. Sure, American cars have poor examples, but maybe I'm just buying crappy examples of Japanese stuff. Does Honda do this crap? Lexus? I can't say. I do know the Lexus' I have worked on were pretty complex and did have a few "quirks" about how they were put togather, though.

American cars just have crappy window motors and electronics. Which I suppose is its own gremlin.

Trying the Germans next. I hear with them it's either you pick a winner, or you trade it in ASAP! and pick a winner, lol

Apoc370z

OP is German, thr makes a lot of sense.

I am not trying to be racist (seriously, no offense intended to Germans) but i came across a couple of German friends/coworkers in the past, cool people but waaaaay too prideful when it comes to German products vs the rest of the world.

I have owned several cars, from JDM imports to Mercs, they dont have a single good thing to say about japanese car or american cars. Convos with them always ended up with them picking on little things and how the rest of the world will never be as good as German products.

Funniest thing is, they dont have a single complaint when i drive them around in my SLK, and the SLK was making all sorts of noises due to the fact that it is a convertable.

I do admit that german products are at the top of the line, but that doesnt mean that other products are bad. Like others said, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to take apart the console cover, and i never have any power steering noises.

But nissan seriously needs to work on the paint..

bullitt5897

or it didnt happen.....

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Japanjay

I find this to be true in my line of work but also applies to the german stuff too. Alot of their electrical equipment when regarding indutrial stuff is super chincey and so are their hand tools that they use. I had a bag of kleins one day around some germans in the middle east and they were practically drooling over them. I ended up giving one of the guys one of my screwdrivers because for 6 months he wouldnt stop talking about it. I told him I would let him have it when I got my flight out. It was funny the first time he saw it, it was like it was magic or something. Lol. I really really hate their breakers and relays too. Garbage.

NitrousZ34

Your a "True Z Fanatic" but yet its the car that will never make you want another Japanese vehicle because god forbid you cant replace the tires, rotors, or get something out of the cubby????

I would always get my license and credit cards stuck in my Z it's not that big of a deal lol. I replaced my front rotors with aftermarket ones and never had problems, and burned through several sets of tires. Its part of the game haha