do you not know how to count?

G20 is your first japanese car.
370Z is your second and final japanese car.... and japanese car makers could careless :hello:

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PS... I only get to read half of this thread...

for Mr.kenchan

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Bahahahaha!!!!

:bowrofl: this is why i missed this guy :tup: his f*ckin hilarious :D

At 155,000 + miles this thread makes me glad my "Japanese" 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse is Japanese in name only. It was designed in California by Americans, manufactured and assembled in Normal, ILL by Americans. :tiphat:

I can't help but laugh, given the number of times I told you about this, and you doubted the car made of "solid billet" would rattle.

When are we closing this thread?

Didn't read much, don't want to flame, but i understand you saying something like "i don't like the Japanese mindset", but it goes both ways, i hate the "American mindset", horrible interior, leaf springs, flimsy plastic, poor handling, poor exterior design, think if they add enough HP it suddenly becomes a good car, ect... to each their own. Sounds like you could pick up a vette or mustang

I didn't either...
I can only buy Japanese cars because of build quality...
Like when I wanted to install the 4th brake light, the damn bolts would NOT come off no matter what I did.
I felt like killing anyone and everyone at Nissan... I told my dad about the amount of thread locker and he saw how much shít I had to go through to take it off and his reply was, "You see, the Japanese build cars to last"

Great answer



Also, regarding squeaks and rattles, sorry brothers, some there are less bolts and welds in cars, and more BS clips and such, you're going to get more squeaks with every car. Another reason to buy the extended warranty, my door panel has been replaced once in this car and my previous Maxima

WHOA! ImportConvert's complaining!?!?! I would have never guessed this would happen. Maybe it's not so much the car......

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I'm sure they could, but I'm not refusing to buy one to spite them. You're right, it's my second. I meant it was the first one I bought NEW and "for what it was". The G20 was just "Here are the keys to my old car, put me in something with 4-doors and a 4-banger" and it happened to be a G20.

Meh. American cars out-handle the 370Z. Mustang with the track-pack or whatever puts it in its place.

The transverse leaf-spring in the 'vette is just fine. Honestly. It worked well enough to beat the GT-R around the 'ring, anyway.

The American interiors are what I don't like and what drove me to the 370Z. SOLID point! I agree. They are improving, though.

The Japanese are down on horsepower and cars like the 370Z don't have the handling to make up for it. They handle nice for a street car I guess, but they push through corners and feel very "heavy" to me, compared to corvettes, the new mustangs, and other cars without so much weight up front.

I can certainly agree that you have a right to feel how you do, and won't do much more than argue the points above. I agree with many of them. The Japanese engineer is who frustrates me.

The suspension is a HORRIBLY complex design with a TON of rubber in it to flex and mush. The 370 is much better than the 350, but it's like the guy who designed it made it to ONLY function brand-new, and didn't give a flying **** about service, repair, and performance over the life of the car. This seems to be how all Japanese cars are made when I look at pictures of their underpinnings, or in the engine-bay, etc. My G20 and 370Z certainly have been that way thus-far.

I understand that things will squeak and rattle, but my 2001 WS6 rattled less than the first Z car I rode in (an '06?) and it rattled less the day I sold it in 2010 with 150K miles on it than my 2012 370Z.

Maybe I'm the only one who see's a problem with that. My initial quality impression of my 370Z was VERY good/high. My opinion now is that it's "low/average". About where American cars in the $35-45K price-range were 10 years ago. Take that as you will. Just not pleased. I expect a little squeak, but I have to turn the radio up to drown all the rattles out, and that's just lame. THen I pull into a parking-lot and the power-steering moans and groans and everyone looks at me and it's embarrassing. I mean, seriously?

I hate to say it, but I am at the point where I would rather have a slightly crappier grade of plastic used and not have a car that feels like a bucket of bolts and clunks and whines and groans. It's annoying. I'll post video in a few of the power-steering whine that Nissan says is "Characteristic of the car".