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Well, my big chore for today was cancelled, so I did some digging through the FSMs. Here's what I found: Referencing 2009 FSM SE-5, SE-8, SE-11, SE-23, SBC-10, SBC-16, and

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, my big chore for today was cancelled, so I did some digging through the FSMs. Here's what I found:
Referencing 2009 FSM SE-5, SE-8, SE-11, SE-23, SBC-10, SBC-16, and SRC-157, I see nothing that will affect vehicle operation (other than warning lights) if the seat connectors are unplugged.

A visual inspection of my 2009 Touring (includes electric seat warmers) indicates that there is just one, "medium-sized" harness running from the console to each seat. These harnesses branch off under the seats to go to seat position/recline switch and such.

My conclusion is that you can remove the console/seat harnesses, assuming the connectors in the console don't contain pins with other circuits (I can research that, but it's a PITA), but you will trip seatbelt, SRS, and maybe other alarms. If all else fails, there may be enough room in the console to allow you to tuck the harnesses in there.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert - check the FSMs or a qualified technician before performing any modifications.
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So I guess the question is, where is this harness going from the seats to the console hidden in a non-touring model? The wiring harness is there under the seat, but I don't know where it's hidden (in the dash or somewhere beneath the carpet). And, does this hidden harness have the heated seat wiring connectors for the switches?

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Well, my big chore for today was cancelled, so I did some digging through the FSMs. Here's what I found:
Referencing 2009 FSM SE-5, SE-8, SE-11, SE-23, SBC-10, SBC-16, and SRC-157, I see nothing that will affect vehicle operation (other than warning lights) if the seat connectors are unplugged.

A visual inspection of my 2009 Touring (includes electric seat warmers) indicates that there is just one, "medium-sized" harness running from the console to each seat. These harnesses branch off under the seats to go to seat position/recline switch and such.

My conclusion is that you can remove the console/seat harnesses, assuming the connectors in the console don't contain pins with other circuits (I can research that, but it's a PITA), but you will trip seatbelt, SRS, and maybe other alarms. If all else fails, there may be enough room in the console to allow you to tuck the harnesses in there.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert - check the FSMs or a qualified technician before performing any modifications.
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So I guess the question is, where is this harness going from the seats to the console hidden in a non-touring model? The wiring harness is there under the seat, but I don't know where it's hidden (in the dash or somewhere beneath the carpet). And, does this hidden harness have the heated seat wiring connectors for the switches?
My harness is attached to the seat frame and then goes under the carpet. I didn't pull up the carpet to check the harness routing, but, according to the FSMs, the connector on the other end of the harness is in the center console. I could not swear that the harness doesn't physically go to the door sill first. I'm assuming that they took they shortest possible route and the harness passes either in front of or behind the seat rails and then heads straight for the console.

It would take more digging than I have time for right now to verify this, but I believe the heater switches have their own connector with power in and outputs to heating pads. You can look at the SE FSM under the System Wiring and Terminal Layout sections to get a better idea of how the switches/heaters are wired. Seatbelt and airbag info are in the SBC and SRC sections, respectively.

Edit: Keep in mind that I am only going by what I read in the FSMs. I've never attempted a project like this nor am I 100% sure that I am interpreting the FSMs properly. I'm just trying to give you some hints until someone that knows what they are talking about shows up.
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THanks for the advice. I will probably pull my pasenger's side seat out again and see if I can track it down the harness through the carpeting. If you happen to look into where the heater switch wiring harness runs, I would appreciate it.
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Please do let us know what you find. I don't plan on cracking open my console anytime soon, but, if I do, I will let you know what I find.
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