Intake Ducts?

robones · 09-05-2012, 08:20 AM

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Zdar · 09-05-2012, 12:56 PM

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when Michael saw that Toby came back! I love that show.

Nice car robones! It looks very nice as is.

robones · 09-05-2012, 01:06 PM

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:Nice car robones! It looks very nice as is.

Welcome to the forums!

Zdar · 09-05-2012, 01:51 PM

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Welcome to the forums!

thanks robones! (and I like the sideways tow hook!)

robones · 09-05-2012, 12:23 PM

Thank you for your input Scribe. I do like the "function over form" approach as you accurately analyzed. I rather have a light and functional lip and canards than either a bulky snow plow looking lip or heavy aftermarket bumper of lower OEM quality just for aesthetic purposes. I do like the ducts primarily because they are 100% functional

Ducts coupled with K&N filters would provide excellent gains comparable to any aftermarket intake. There is no better intake system than the 370's OEM system at preventing heat soak thus increasing its efficiency.

The highest HP gains done with some of these aftermarket intake systems were achieved by removing the front bumper and with an open hood. The main restrictive element being the front bumper. All these manufactures play the numbers game of course, so they can sell their products, but with a simple bumper modification, you can achieve similar numbers as well.

nightwish · 09-05-2012, 12:35 PM

Stillen is a fully functional bumper with brake ducts, but you weren't talking about stillen, right? beside I enjoyed my front vents with Gen 3 but love the Intercooler install much more..my custom vents with bumper going up for sale after the holidays ...fyi
Picture below ..are you sure those vents on Hood is functional

robones · 09-05-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nightwish

Stillen is a fully functional bumper with brake ducts, but you weren't talking about stillen, right? beside I enjoyed my front vents with Gen 3 but love the Intercooler install much more..my custom vents with bumper going up for sale after the holidays ...fyi
Picture below ..are you sure those vents on Hood is functional

Yes, Stillen's bumper is fully functional and it was designed specially for tracking enthuthiasts due to its brake ducting and its wide main opening also makes it easy to incorporate Stillen's own SC kit or any other FI kit for that matter. A lot of tracking folks are choosing the Stillen front facia over any other bumper due to its functional design. BUT its heavier than the OEM bumper.

Scribe · 09-05-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by robones

Thank you for your input Scribe. I do like the "function over form" approach as you accurately analyzed. I rather have a light and functional lip and canards than either a bulky snow plow looking lip or heavy aftermarket bumper of lower OEM quality just for aesthetic purposes. I do like the ducts primarily because they are 100% functional

Ducts coupled with K&N filters would provide excellent gains comparable to any aftermarket intake. There is no better intake system than the 370's OEM system at preventing heat soak thus increasing its efficiency.

The highest HP gains done with some of these aftermarket intake systems were achieved by removing the front bumper and with an open hood. The main restrictive element being the front bumper. All these manufactures play the numbers game of course, so they can sell their products, but with a simple bumper modification, you can achieve similar numbers as well.

No problem. Here's something else for consideration, though I don't know of anyone in the aftermarket that's been smart and quick enough to start making these style of ducts.

robones · 09-05-2012, 01:05 PM

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No problem. Here's something else for consideration, though I don't know of anyone in the aftermarket that's been smart and quick enough to start making these style of ducts.

Yes, but these will only work on the Nismo front facia and are only for routing cold air to the brakes not the intakes. I am not sure these are available as individual pieces however. These are included in the 370z Nismo RC spec only from what I've read.

Scribe · 09-05-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robones

Yes, but these will only work on the Nismo front facia and are only for routing cold air to the brakes not the intakes. I am not sure these are available as individual pieces however. These are included in the 370z Nismo RC spec only from what I've read.

I was suggesting buying a Nismo front and routing the ducts to the intake. If you are looking for an off the shelf solution, this probably isn't an option for you.

You mentioned the Stillen being heavier, but there are two versions from what I understand; an older one that was multi-piece and a newer one that is a single piece. I could be wrong. Another thing to consider is the weight of the stock front with a lip, canards and ducts together versus the weight of the Stillen. And if we're talking a few pounds, it's probably not going to make a noticeable difference.

Dustin@Z1 · 09-05-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by robones

Yes, but these will only work on the Nismo front facia and are only for routing cold air to the brakes not the intakes. I am not sure these are available as individual pieces however. These are included in the 370z Nismo RC spec only from what I've read.

True and not true at the same time. If you were to run a NISMO Intake or possibly the AEM ETI, you could make the NISMO RC Brake Ducts act like intake ducts. It is all depending on where you direct the air.

The NISMO RC Brake Ducts are just ridiculously expensive.

The Mine's ducts look good with the right aero package. I am split. I like the ducts and then I also like the subtle look without them. EventhorizoN's car just looks awesome all around.

fuct · 09-05-2012, 03:41 PM

and FYI, nissan sells the nismo brake ducts for $620

A PIECE!!!!!

Rusty · 09-05-2012, 04:09 PM

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and FYI, nissan sells the nismo brake ducts for $620

A PIECE!!!!!

List is $612.00

Zdar · 09-05-2012, 07:44 PM

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List is $612.00

Wow Rusty! Looks great and functional!

Rusty · 09-05-2012, 08:33 PM

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Wow Rusty! Looks great and functional!

Thank you.

I used the Stillen brake duct kit, 4" to 2" wood dust hose reducers, and the Nismo brake ducts to get it to work.

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robones Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 357 Drives: 2011 - Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 15	Thank you for your input Scribe. I do like the "function over form" approach as you accurately analyzed. I rather have a light and functional lip and canards than either a bulky snow plow looking lip or heavy aftermarket bumper of lower OEM quality just for aesthetic purposes. I do like the ducts primarily because they are 100% functional Ducts coupled with K&N filters would provide excellent gains comparable to any aftermarket intake. There is no better intake system than the 370's OEM system at preventing heat soak thus increasing its efficiency. The highest HP gains done with some of these aftermarket intake systems were achieved by removing the front bumper and with an open hood. The main restrictive element being the front bumper. All these manufactures play the numbers game of course, so they can sell their products, but with a simple bumper modification, you can achieve similar numbers as well.