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W.O.W. 370Z 08-30-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1894238)
IF you want to get TECHNICAL I never said it was a Vestito, I simply referred to it as "Carbon Fiber Amuse". EVERYBODY knows this is not a powerhouse amuse vestito because this is obviously not listed in their product line or website. The description I used " Carbon Fiber Amuse" is not a term used or trademarked by POWERHOUSE AMUSE so that name alone should tell you its NOT from POWERHOUSE Amuse, vestito "kit".


Second, I was in the market for a 100% carbon fiber body kit. Unfortunately POWERHOUSE does not make a carbon fiber kit so I came across this one.

FINALLY.... I doubt this kit has any sort of trademark/copyright justification on it BUT FOR ARGUMENT SAKE lets say it did... THEN considering the "Carbon Fiber Amuse" kit consist of 10% or more design change, it wouldnt matter ;). This kit comes CLEAR coated unlike Powerhouse, COMES in FULL carbon fiber unlike Powerhouse and Is not offered in GEL COAT because its CF :)

The term "Carbon Fiber Amuse" when used, is used for descriptive purposes only and are not meant to imply any affiliation with their mark holders. Unless otherwise protected by POWERHOUSE, that term is free use ;)

I dont even sell this kit, I simply purchased it for myself. Our business model doesnt revolve in the "body kit" market. I find it interesting that you selected my thread amongst the SEVERAL other threads on the370z.com that almost every replica kit has been displayed, wasnt replied too. :icon14:


AND FINALLY.... Here's the retail price of POWERHOUSE AMUSE VESTITO KIT

3P Kit - Front Bumper, Side Steps, Rear Bumper
US $ 3,415.51


Front Bumper
US $ 1,267.82


Full Kit - Front Bumper, Side Steps, Rear Bumper, Rear Wing
US $ 4,567.39


IF you want to discuss ethical standards then explain why I purchased an ALL CARBON FIBER AMUSE KIT which was also CLEAR COATED and wetsanded, buffed and waxed, 3-piece comparison, for a LOT CHEAPER than the 3 pc Fiberglass NON PAINTED, NO CLEAR COAT, CHEAPER MATERIAL THAN WHATS OFFERED ON THE KIT I HAVE "carbon fiber is more expensive" but yea POWERHOUSE AMUSE feels its ethically/morally okay to charge customers $3,500-$4,500 PLUS shipping for something that isnt worth it?

This looks better, made better, better quality material, comes finished but YET way cheaper???? doesnt make sense does it ;)

What a load of ******** lol.

You argue in circles and concluded that the genuine manufacturer is unethical?

I will say I have never seen so many replicas sold by vendors on a forum before. This forum is unique in many ways.


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bullitt5897 08-30-2012 01:30 PM

*cough* my350z *cough*

Carbon_z 08-30-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1894261)
What a load of ******** lol.

You argue in circles and concluded that the genuine manufacturer is unethical?

I will say I have never seen so many replicas sold by vendors on a forum before. This forum is unique in many ways.


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lol I would say my post was just as much a load of you know what, just as much as 370ztune posting a disclaimer/ BE AWARE on a PICTURE THREAD....


NO advertisement for retail sales/purchases where mentioned in my thread but 370ztune took it upon his/her self to rather try to give others the opinion of being aware of my car and how hes buddy buddy with R&D... Okay Im envy :bowrofl:

And im just hurt because out of his WHOLE ENTIRE post, he didnt once...not even onceeeee say "nice car or compliment it or give any feedback regarding the overall theme of the car rather just single out the body kit... " :( :gtfo2:

bullitt5897 08-30-2012 01:33 PM

Ok boys back on topic. When do the cpillars and caps come in?

Carbon_z 08-30-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1894285)
Ok boys back on topic. When do the cpillars and caps come in?

Next week :) Along with carbon fiber engine cover, carbon fiber Battery/Brake Covers :)

Which did you know that Nissan Designed those... Because im sure 370ztune sells replica carbon fiber pillars/ mirror caps :) Arent you doing what your accusing me of doing? COPYING AN EXISTING DESIGN :) EXCEPT your selling and NISSAN probably has copyrights filed ;)

370Z_RACER 08-30-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1894261)
What a load of ******** lol.

You argue in circles and concluded that the genuine manufacturer is unethical?

I will say I have never seen so many replicas sold by vendors on a forum before. This forum is unique in many ways.


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what's up your ***?

bullitt5897 08-30-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_RACER (Post 1894307)
what's up your ***?

Apparently everything!!!! He is always up in everyone's business!

W.O.W. 370Z 08-30-2012 01:51 PM

Its a public forum.

No expectation of privacy. You should know that king replica.;)


Except for that thread with your texts insulting customers. :eek:

But you never listened to me. Now no one trusts you or your company. I don't blame them.

Wait never mind you're not a vendor anymore...

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bullitt5897 08-30-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1894316)
Its a public forum.

No expectation of privacy.

Except for that thread with your texts insulting customers. :eek:

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I never insulted a customer? It's against my standards. Unlike you posting people's personal info like on my350z... Why don't you take the my350z drama back to where it belongs on my350z and allow billet to have his thread back!

Back on topic!

Carbon_z 08-30-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1894326)
I never insulted a customer? It's against my standards. Unlike you posting people's personal info like on my350z... Why don't you take the my350z drama back to where it belongs on my350z and allow billet to have his thread back!

Back on topic!

Are you guys replicating your previous thread that got deleted... lol Bullitt is a great person and I can vouch for him. No matter how much you hate him or hate what he stands for... I can tell you this, I have never witnessed him steal his customers money. I also understand that sometimes things happen, shipping company may damage a part and etc but he corrects the problem and helps out. You can attack him for failure to reply to post in a timely manner, or awful customer service or you could even hate what his business model represents but YOU HAVE never been a victim of his and you tend to make it appear that he stole something from you.

I recall a certain wheel manufacturer that disappeared, stole members monies, and never presented the customer with wheels... That's messed up...

You however make Bullitt " and yes I want to keep typing Billet lol" sound like a person with the description i listed above. No member on here is a victim of his and unless you lost money or waiting on parts then I have no idea why you would hate the guy..


AND NOBODY BETTER GET MY THREAD DELETED CAUSE YOU CAN :gtfo2: RIGHT NOW LOL

Oh a side note: We are thinking of doing a carbon fiber sink for a bathroom :yum:

bullitt5897 08-30-2012 02:13 PM

Lol cf sink! You tried to convince Brittany's dad to cf his jetskis!!! Lol

anthonyy 08-30-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1894344)
Are you guys replicating your previous thread that got deleted... lol Bullitt is a great person and I can vouch for him. No matter how much you hate him or hate what he stands for... I can tell you this, I have never witnessed him steal his customers money. I also understand that sometimes things happen, shipping company may damage a part and etc but he corrects the problem and helps out. You can attack him for failure to reply to post in a timely manner, or awful customer service or you could even hate what his business model represents but YOU HAVE never been a victim of his and you tend to make it appear that he stole something from you.

I recall a certain wheel manufacturer that disappeared, stole members monies, and never presented the customer with wheels... That's messed up...

You however make Bullitt " and yes I want to keep typing Billet lol" sound like a person with the description i listed above. No member on here is a victim of his and unless you lost money or waiting on parts then I have no idea why you would hate the guy..


AND NOBODY BETTER GET MY THREAD DELETED CAUSE YOU CAN :gtfo2: RIGHT NOW LOL

Oh a side note: We are thinking of doing a carbon fiber sink for a bathroom :yum:

:inoutroflpuke: cf toilet seat. I would feel so boss taking my morning *****.

Carbon_z 08-30-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyy (Post 1894579)
:inoutroflpuke: cf toilet seat. I would feel so boss taking my morning *****.

Is it a worse thought when I would consider waxing it hahahah My *** would slip right off that smooth seat :roflpuke2:

370Z_RACER 08-30-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1894316)
Its a public forum.

No expectation of privacy. You should know that king replica.;)


Except for that thread with your texts insulting customers. :eek:

But you never listened to me. Now no one trusts you or your company. I don't blame them.

Wait never mind you're not a vendor anymore...

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:facepalm:

birdmanx1 08-30-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1894316)
Its a public forum.

No expectation of privacy. You should know that king replica.;)


Except for that thread with your texts insulting customers. :eek:

But you never listened to me. Now no one trusts you or your company. I don't blame them.

Wait never mind you're not a vendor anymore...

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Dayum :icon17: Anyways car looks boss replica or not ;)

simota1 08-30-2012 09:17 PM

gawddd damn man!!! that **** looks sick man... ;) you need a carbon windshield man... rear windshield and window..... lmao....

i would be so jittery if i drove your car on the road...it would be like tink... ahhhh!!! rock chip!!! god damn it!!!!! tink tink.... NOOOOOOOOo more rock chips.... i give you mad props for going all carbon man :tup:

VDC_OFF 08-31-2012 03:34 PM

Might want to look into this for the rear quarters, Chris Forsberg uses them:
CFR Parts | Chris Forsberg Racing

Carbon_z 08-31-2012 03:39 PM

Holy **** man great find. I basically owe you my life right now hahhaa. I've searched the web for MONTHs in the past looking for something similar. I was prepared for a more difficult task but you my frien just simplified it. Woohoo This is amazingly awesome :)

VDC_OFF 08-31-2012 03:47 PM

I thought you would like that ;)

You are almost inspiring me to do something simliar now. Was looking for a way to tie in the carbon fiber side skirt to the rear bumper instead of just using spats that dont line up and this might be an expensive answer. Need to photoshop how it looks first to see if its worth it.

jae35 08-31-2012 03:51 PM

This thing is beautiful

Carbon_z 09-05-2012 12:54 PM

We had a Z vs G meet at Z1 over the weekend... The Z's won with the most horsepower total on the dyno :) "doesnt matter if we had more members show up" lol

Some pics from of the car over the weekend. Pillars and caps are finishing up this week and excited :)

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...78441150_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...42006947_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...20593197_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...13165987_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...69414994_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...98250152_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...04523027_n.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...03397998_n.jpg

Zdar 09-05-2012 01:55 PM

Oh wow billet370! This is amazing. First car I have seen that is almost all carbon fiber and you pull it off very well!
I apologize beforehand if this has been posted, but is there a significant weight reduction compared to the OEM body?

VDC_OFF 09-05-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zdar (Post 1902789)
Oh wow billet370! This is amazing. First car I have seen that is almost all carbon fiber and you pull it off very well!
I apologize beforehand if this has been posted, but is there a significant weight reduction compared to the OEM body?

Yes this should definitely be documented :tup:

Mannysrt8 09-05-2012 03:11 PM

Very Nice

370Ztune 09-05-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1894296)
Next week :) Along with carbon fiber engine cover, carbon fiber Battery/Brake Covers :)

Which did you know that Nissan Designed those... Because im sure 370ztune sells replica carbon fiber pillars/ mirror caps :) Arent you doing what your accusing me of doing? COPYING AN EXISTING DESIGN :) EXCEPT your selling and NISSAN probably has copyrights filed ;)

Your sig should say "getting replicas are the coolest, all the kids are doing it".

First of all, your 90% copied, 10% argument is the most ridiculous comment ever. There is no legal blanket statement with aero parts. I KNOW all the people you got your kit from and the people who bought parts from them. They even try to show up to our meets / shows and pass their cars off as authentic Amuse kits next to our real customers.

I love how you complain about quality and price, when you've probably never even seen the quality, care and compassion the top JDM companies take to design these products... bring them to the U.S., only to be bought by one guy who decides to copy it and turn a dollar.

Yes, you have a full carbon REPLICA of an Amuse Vestito kit. Which was modified to your liking. The design was definitely not original, and the quality is questionable at best, even though it may undergo more processes (you think all carbon is the same?).

Please don't make childish remarks when we just wanted to clarify to the average consumer. If you feel so defensive about your fake part, then why bother to post about it? Just enjoy what you paid for, but just let the information be out there for others who enjoy original, authentic designs... :tup:

cooltoy 09-05-2012 08:21 PM

:drama:

omm370z 09-05-2012 09:05 PM

Hey what about CF cover for the calipers?? LOL and what about CCM disks? :bowrofl:

370Z JT 09-06-2012 01:32 AM

How about if anyone who owns Amuse replica parts, put the word "replica" when talking about their parts.

birdmanx1 09-06-2012 08:23 AM

I'm going ostrish on this one

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Romulus1 09-06-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1904020)
I'm going ostrish on this one

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lol i laughed for a solid 5 minutes at that spoiler.


Great work on the car guys!

I'm hopefully getting my replica amuse front and rear soon for my car, possibly in CF too!

birdmanx1 09-06-2012 09:25 AM

:icon17: Romulus

W.O.W. 370Z 09-06-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1904020)
i'm going ostrish on this one

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lol

Carbon_z 09-06-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 1903267)
Your sig should say "getting replicas are the coolest, all the kids are doing it".

First of all, your 90% copied, 10% argument is the most ridiculous comment ever. There is no legal blanket statement with aero parts. I KNOW all the people you got your kit from and the people who bought parts from them. They even try to show up to our meets / shows and pass their cars off as authentic Amuse kits next to our real customers.

I love how you complain about quality and price, when you've probably never even seen the quality, care and compassion the top JDM companies take to design these products... bring them to the U.S., only to be bought by one guy who decides to copy it and turn a dollar.

Yes, you have a full carbon REPLICA of an Amuse Vestito kit. Which was modified to your liking. The design was definitely not original, and the quality is questionable at best, even though it may undergo more processes (you think all carbon is the same?).

Please don't make childish remarks when we just wanted to clarify to the average consumer. If you feel so defensive about your fake part, then why bother to post about it? Just enjoy what you paid for, but just let the information be out there for others who enjoy original, authentic designs... :tup:

Ahhh excuse you, your original post was nothing but a bash post. SECOND, the 10% and etc was purposely posted because you, considering you just mentioned that "aero parts have no legal blank", decide to turn this into a replica bashing thread when all this thread resembles is a updated blog about MY CAR. No promotions of business whats so ever HOWEVER you decide to bring in nonsense comments. Nobody is attempting to make a "QUICK BUCK" as you referenced it.... POWERHOUSE AMUSE simply DOES NOT MAKE an ALL CARBON FIBER KIT. I find it surprising that a REPLICA company made an all carbon fiber amuse kit rather than the original company.

Your company SELLS REPLICA mirror caps and side pillars... THOSE ARE EXACT REPLICAS of NISSAN design... GO BASH YoUR SELF:ugh2::bowrofl:

hypocrite.


PS: All these carbon fiber HATCHES and OEM Carbon Fiber HOODS and Carbon Fiber DOORS are replicas of original designs but yet you don't seem to have an issue with those. If you decide to use MATERIAL being the difference in your stance with this argument, then your absolutely crazy because thats exactly what your accusing me of doing :p

Finally, Anyway you argue this I will win. I do this for a LIVING, true full time LIVING, "Arguing". Your company site sells replica parts but yet your bashing me. Why dont I go bash your company for selling OEM style carbon fiber parts???? Your doing it to me in my VISUAL THREAD so why cant i do it in every thread you create to sale a product?? Only fair? right ;)
Dumb-a$$ replicated hater :gtfo2:

I have a replica carbon fiber amuse kit EVEN THOUGH AMUSE doesnt have a FULL carbon fiber amuse kit....So replica is better bwahaha :) I also have replica pillars, replica cf doors, replica cf hatch :)

Carbon_z 09-06-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1904020)
I'm going ostrish on this one

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bwahah :icon18:

And no brake calipers :)

W.O.W. 370Z 09-06-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 1904308)
Ahhh excuse you, your original post was nothing but a bash post. SECOND, the 10% and etc was purposely posted because you, considering you just mentioned that "aero parts have no legal blank", decide to turn this into a replica bashing thread when all this thread resembles is a updated blog about MY CAR. No promotions of business whats so ever HOWEVER you decide to bring in nonsense comments. Nobody is attempting to make a "QUICK BUCK" as you referenced it.... POWERHOUSE AMUSE simply DOES NOT MAKE an ALL CARBON FIBER KIT. I find it surprising that a REPLICA company made an all carbon fiber amuse kit rather than the original company.

Your company SELLS REPLICA mirror caps and side pillars... THOSE ARE EXACT REPLICAS of NISSAN design... GO BASH YoUR SELF:ugh2::bowrofl:

hypocrite.


PS: All these carbon fiber HATCHES and OEM Carbon Fiber HOODS and Carbon Fiber DOORS are replicas of original designs but yet you don't seem to have an issue with those. If you decide to use MATERIAL being the difference in your stance with this argument, then your absolutely crazy because thats exactly what your accusing me of doing :p

Finally, Anyway you argue this I will win. I do this for a LIVING, true full time LIVING, "Arguing". Your company site sells replica parts but yet your bashing me. Why dont I go bash your company for selling OEM style carbon fiber parts???? Your doing it to me in my VISUAL THREAD so why cant i do it in every thread you create to sale a product?? Only fair? right ;)
Dumb-a$$ replicated hater :gtfo2:

I have a replica carbon fiber amuse kit EVEN THOUGH AMUSE doesnt have a FULL carbon fiber amuse kit....So replica is better bwahaha :) I also have replica pillars, replica cf doors, replica cf hatch :)


What a mature response...:wtf2:

I liked it better when you were picking on that girl trying to start a carbon fiber business. :ugh2:

Not sure which of your rants was more classy?

Carbon_z 09-06-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1904316)
What a mature response...:wtf2:

I liked it better when you were picking on that girl trying to start a carbon fiber business. :ugh2:

Not sure which of your rants was more classy?

Well WOW I apologize if I offended you in anyway but I am simply defending myself as any-other person would. You dont seem to bash 370ztune, A VENDER, for his thread bashing ON THE THREAD I STARTED, so it shows you have a personal issue of some sort with me/CFE when we, to my knowledge, have never attacked/bashed/insulted you.


I am only trying to make a valid point about replicas. MOST OF THE AFTERMARKET PARTS out there are REPLICATED from OEM design HOWEVER made with CARBON FIBER which isnt offered by NISSAN. HOWEVER, this is accepted by all and I agree it should because your receiving parts that are modified/development using material that the original source "NISSAN" doesn't offer. That is the EXACT same process with replica cf amuse kits. I simply wanted to build a FULL CARBON FIBER CAR, something I WANTED to accomplish WAY before a 370z even existed. I simply found a company that offers a full carbon fiber body kit. NOBODY OFFERS THAT OPTION. So a company that developed this "replica" amuse kit is similar in theory to SEIBON MAKING CARBON FIBER OEM STYLE MIRROR CAPS, HOOD, HATCH, DOORS... the material is different but this is acceptable... SO Why is this situation being treated any different?

Im just tired of everybody jumping on this REPLICA bandwagon. AND A FINAL REMINDER, we dont SELL any body exterior parts so again, this thread is simply a visual update on my project.

WHEN IS IT OKAY TO REPLICATE? WHENEVER A MEMBER DECIDES ON ONE PRODUCT RATHER THAN SPEAKING YOUR MIND ON EVERY REPLICATED PART THAT COMES TO MARKET... GO AHEAD AND SEND SEIBON SOME NOTIFICATION AS WELL SINCE YOUR UPLOADING THE LAW AND EXPRESSING EQUAL FAIRNESS WITH ALL REPLICATED PARTS THAT COME TO MARKET, NOT JUST THIS BODY KIT :/

Carbon_z 09-06-2012 12:12 PM

370ztune.com, 370ztune's Company and Site sells the FOLLOWING REPLICAS..

http://bespoke-public-product-images...d8_300x199.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...c2_300x199.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...0e_300x199.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...76_300x225.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...ae_300x225.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...93_300x200.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...21_300x181.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...48_300x200.jpg
http://bespoke-public-product-images...ce_300x199.jpg


You appear to sound like a hypocrite considering you sell REPLICA parts... So since your friends with Amuse, now its ethically wrong to replica something but yet you promote replicas through your business and profit from it.

VDC_OFF 09-06-2012 12:58 PM

I see your point billet and I think its a valid point. If a manufacturer simply changes the material than it is not a replica anymore. So then a fair compromise would be for these other "replica" companies to stop offering the kit in the same material and only offer it in the "other" material that is not offered by the original manufacturer. I doubt this will happen but until then I think they have the right to be bashed (however not on this thread). So that would also give the original manufacturer an option that if they do not want the kit to be copied, then they must offer it in all materials such as FRP and Carbon.

Carbon_z 09-06-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDC_OFF (Post 1904520)
I see your point billet and I think its a valid point. If a manufacturer simply changes the material than it is not a replica anymore. So then a fair compromise would be for these other "replica" companies to stop offering the kit in the same material and only offer it in the "other" material that is not offered by the original manufacturer. I doubt this will happen but until then I think they have the right to be bashed (however not on this thread). So that would also give the original manufacturer an option that if they do not want the kit to be copied, then they must offer it in all materials such as FRP and Carbon.

Thank you, My point exactly. The Kit on my car has material that isnt offered on the original. JUST like the factory OEM mirror caps, etc... This kit was made different from material, to finish, to even clear coat finish unlike the original. My point to all of this, ITS A FREAKING CAR PIC THREAD :) I dont want to see my baby get locked because of TWO members :shakes head:

Only reason I was on the defensive end was simply because I was attacked and the post had no true value to this entire THREAD.....:rolleyes:

Cmike2780 09-06-2012 01:18 PM

lol, billet370. You need to chill.

Just my $0.02

There's a big difference between plagiarism and using the source as the foundation of a design. By definition, yes I suppose you could consider those parts 370Ztune is offering as "replicas" but it's implied that certain parts only fit if directly copied from the original. They're not trying to pass off the part as an authentic OEM Nissan part. It's kind of implied for example, that a cf mirror cover has to conform to the OEM mirror to fit correctly. It's physically impossible not to have it mimick the original piece. There also a difference between a non-OEM "replacement" part and replicating someone elses "aftermarket" part. No one is bashing you for your carbon-fiber wraps for example. It's a fine line and up to the original author to decide what they want allowed. It's very clear that Powerhouse Amuse would not want this allowed. Changing the kit to CF is moot if you don't have the original authors permission or in this case is greatly opposed to such alterations in the design.

You may be tired of the "replica bandwagon," but as someone who designs (buildings) for a living, plagiarism is basically theft of intellectual property and something I take offense to. It's illegal and very much unethical. The replica Amuse are counterfeit products, no matter how you spin or justify it. If I decide to change a few words to a book I liked reading for example, put my name on it and started selling it for a profit. The original author would rightfully be upset.

Arguing this stuff is childish. Everyone, including yourself, knows selling something counterfeit is wrong. People can justify and reason all they want... be it price, color, texture...whatever...it doesn't make it right. No one is attacking you for the great job you did on YOUR car. There's just no need to be defensive because someone called you out on your "replica" kit.


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