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miguez 06-16-2009 09:50 AM

John, keep in mind that the corner wings you see on some of the images displayed on this thread are critical for downforce, but they are generally bolted on, so you could produce a bumper to sell en masse without the wings, then a V2 version of the bumper as mentioned with the wings bolted on. The same approach could be used for the front splitter, perhaps have two options, a more tuned down version for the street folk, and a more agressive one for the track. I am not sure if the splitter itself could be bolted on as an option (just like how I mentioned it for the corner wings), but if so, that would make it easy.

You'd have one basic bumper where the front openings would not change, then you'd have the splitter as two different options, and the corner wings as additional options. If it's possible, this would give you a more marketable product, I think.

By the way, I just PMed you.

miguez 06-16-2009 09:57 AM

RCZ, great pics. Here's a couple of interesting pictures of Team Tarzan's Impreza. This is an all-out Time Attack monster, used to great success last year (and will be this year too) by this successful Japanese team. The first shot shows the front splitter really well without the corner wings:

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...mg_0137kai.jpg


This second shot shows the same car with the corner wings added (bolted on), and it's a great look at their carbon hood too:

http://image.modified.com/f/15652796..._side_view.jpg

Modshack 06-16-2009 10:09 AM

Something simple should be considered too like a Carbon blade splitter. Simple, adustable downforce, etc..The front end design would appear to be compatible with something like this..

http://images103.fotki.com/v421/phot...SC02314-vi.jpg

http://images103.fotki.com/v428/phot...SC02535-vi.jpg

http://images114.fotki.com/v650/phot...MG_0540-vi.jpg

Scribe 06-16-2009 10:36 AM

I think it should be noted that Nissan is not selling the Nismo 370Z front end without a VIN from a Nismo 370Z. I ran into this issue when I hit a ladder (nothing I could do) that scratched the hell out of my front and had it replaced. I tried without success to get the Nismo aero parts, but the parts guy at the dealership ordered the S-Tune aero parts. After he realized they weren't what I wanted, he couldn't order the Nismo parts without a VIN. I'm currently working another angle on this.

HOWEVER, believe that most here would agree that the Nismo kit is clean AND more important Nissan claims that their design adds downforce without increasing drag. That is why I think it is safe to assume that starting with a *similar* design and making it widely available would satisfly your design requirements. I'm sure someone here could photoshop an image of the Nismo front end that incorporates some of the design considerations put forth by the community (ie canards and added ducts for oil cooler).

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...NISMO-370Z.jpg

travisjb 06-16-2009 11:04 AM

^ good suggestion on starting point

RCZ 06-16-2009 11:16 AM

love the nismo bumper, i would be happy with a variant of it.

travisjb 06-16-2009 11:35 AM

we're getting somewhere... now we need someone with photoshop talent to do 2 variations... v1 enthusiast and v2 hard-core

RCZ 06-16-2009 12:04 PM

Take some cues from the Le Mans 370

http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/q...an370Z_031.jpg
http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/q...an370Z_027.jpg

Intake vents - Check
Big center opening - check
Bigger Splitter - Check
Side intakes for brake cooling - check.

More pics here
http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...rburgring.html

SpawnAeroJohn 06-16-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguez (Post 92179)
John, keep in mind that the corner wings you see on some of the images displayed on this thread are critical for downforce, but they are generally bolted on, so you could produce a bumper to sell en masse without the wings, then a V2 version of the bumper as mentioned with the wings bolted on. The same approach could be used for the front splitter, perhaps have two options, a more tuned down version for the street folk, and a more agressive one for the track. I am not sure if the splitter itself could be bolted on as an option (just like how I mentioned it for the corner wings), but if so, that would make it easy.

You'd have one basic bumper where the front openings would not change, then you'd have the splitter as two different options, and the corner wings as additional options. If it's possible, this would give you a more marketable product, I think.

By the way, I just PMed you.

That woudl be the best way to go! Kind of like the Honda S2000 basic bumper, then you have the sport bumper which is just the extensions that add on to the base bumper, but increase aerodynamics by 80%.

CBRich 06-16-2009 08:00 PM

The venting on the LeMans Z that RCZ posted is really great. The openings at the top of the bumper would serve Stillen G3s well, the bottom serving brakes well, and the large opening serving oil coolers and anybody with an intercooler.

SpawnAeroJohn 06-16-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 92260)
we're getting somewhere... now we need someone with photoshop talent to do 2 variations... v1 enthusiast and v2 hard-core

x2!

You guysa re going to give me a heart attack making us make all these parts :stirthepot:

Junior370z 06-16-2009 08:47 PM

I just got done googling pics of different front lips for the Z I may want, but all the ones that are out there are either too low or too crazy for daily driver type. I love the fujimara front spoiler but a $1000 for CF and $900 for painted?! Are you serious? I sure many Z drivers feel the same as I do about the price.

Hopefully you guys can make something not over aggressive front lip.

Just my 2 cents...

m4a1mustang 06-16-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior370z (Post 92753)
I just got done googling pics of different front lips for the Z I may want, but all the ones that are out there are either too low or too crazy for daily driver type. I love the fujimara front spoiler but a $1000 for CF and $900 for painted?! Are you serious? I sure many Z drivers feel the same as I do about the price.

Hopefully you guys can make something not over aggressive front lip.

Just my 2 cents...

+1.

I really want something subtle that is suitable for daily driving. It doesn't even have to be CF. Hell, it'd be nice to have some cheaper non-CF options! :tup:

travisjb 06-16-2009 09:54 PM

Maybe something subtle like this one ???

http://ra64freddy.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=460&h=300

m4a1mustang 06-16-2009 09:55 PM

I'm thinking even subtler than that. I would knock that splitter off within 10 minutes of installing it.


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