Steering Lock Elimination
 

Okay, so we know Nissan eliminated the steering lock for 2012 models. But, I think they may have actually done away with it beginning in 03/11 for 2011 also.

10/08 - 03/11:
http://www.blue-box.net/~vince/pictu...z/J99800HF.png

03/11 - current:
http://www.blue-box.net/~vince/pictu...z/J99800PL.png

Can somebody that has a 2011 manufactured 04/11 or later check to see if they have the lock? My bad if this has already been covered.

I have an 11, not sure when it was made, let me go check, brb.

Edit: actually nevermind, I got mine before that date lol

What is part number 68632S?

It is:

CYLINDER SET-GLOVE BOX LID LOCK

ooh ok

Good find...

Vince is full of good finds

what is this exactly ....? lol

I would be curious with what they did instead of the lock mechanism and see if it could be retrofitted to the earlier models.

:iagree:

The build date on mine is 1/11, and I have the damn thing. :shakes head:

subbed

Sub'd for more info on (possibly removing) this stupid part from my 09 before it gets on of us stranded somewhere!

^^Word. Im hoping mine fails before october so it will be replaced under warranty lol. Someone needs to get on this retrofitting asap if its possible!

subbed also!!! i hate this pos.... i dont feel like spending 500 bucks for a new one yet.... im hoping mine dont kick the bucket yet hahahhaha

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but my '11 was manufactured in June, 2011. There is no steering lock mechanism at all. With the front end lifted, the wheels turn freely. This might be a pain when I try to remove lug bolts to install spacers.

Uh, RWD...:ugh2: can you turn the steering L/R by hand using the tires? That's the question were asking.

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear about that. Of course the wheels spin, but they also turn, as in no steering lock mechanism at all.

Oh ok, thanks for the confirmation! :tup:

That's interesting. So instead of fixing the steering lock mechanism, Nissan just eliminated the anti theft feature....

And I just thought mine didn't work. I guess it didn't work because it doesn't exist!

unless the car has electronic parking brakes as security measure, yep.

So this thing can obviously be by passed. Whether or not the models with the steering lock can is the question.

it's not a bypass if it didn't exist from the beginning.

and yah, that question was raised about a month or so ago with no solutions yet. :(

I understand it's not a bypass on the newer models lol. I'm talking about some how bypassing on the earlier ones.

Most likely on the new ones they basically removed the part and de-programmed support for it in the BCM and IPDM units. For the old ones we'd still need some kind of "fake" module that acts like the steering lock unit to fool the BCM (well, or just disable NATS completely via UpRev, but that's not really an option unless it's a trailered race-only car).

That would be my guess as well. I wonder how "smart" the steering lock is...

Some basic research on that was done in kenchan's thread, e.g. see this post and the next few pages of discussion after it: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post1496139

I was looking to see if the BCM was updated at the same time (03/11) and sure enough, it was. Actually it's interesting to see how many BCM part numbers there are:

10/08 - 10/09 284B1-1EA0A
10/09 - 03/10 284B1-1EA0B
03/10 - 07/10 284B1-1ET0B
07/10 - 01/11 284B1-1ET4B
01/11 - 03/11 284B1-1ET6C
03/11 - 09/11 284B1-1EA5D
09/11 - now 284B1-1EA7D

The IPDM module changed a bunch too, but not at 03/11, so my guess would be the BCM is what got changed to not look for the steering lock...

Awesome sleuth work!

Hmmm that BCM 284B1-1EA7D (most recent) on courtesyparts.com is half the price of a new lock. Are they interchangeable? Who thinks we can buy that and pull the plug on our locks? Is there anything else that would have to be changed?

I suppose in theory it's possible that works. The most likely issue is that the ECU (or one of the several other mini-ECUs spread around the car aside from the BCM, there's a lot of them) only wants to talk to certainly models/revs of BCM, in which case you get some nasty DTC and half the stuff on the car doesn't function, if all of the various bits don't match model/version numbers expected. Could be the reverse too: the new BCM refuses to talk to e.g. your old Airbag controller, or your older IPDM, older ECU, etc...

Assuming everything is protocol-compatible and generally works even with "mismatched" revs, you'd still need a cooperating dealership to do the BCM install, because they have to go in via Consult-III and set a bunch of base parameters in the BCM to match the options on your car when they install it.

All in all, I suspect this just isn't something Nissan cares to support, so it's a crapshoot whether it works out or the car goes nuts and wants its old BCM back. Especially with a big jump like a 2012 BCM in a 2009 car. If someone wants to blow the money and dealership install labor to try it out though, it might be interesting :)

can we just unplug it and jumper some wires together?

Possibly, I'm going to try and figure that out if I can. But the pin-1 cut works well for now.

Has anyone heard from Nissan officially about this? I have talked to two Service Managers at different dealerships in Kansas City. They give me blank look like "WTF are you talking about".

In typical Japanese corporate fashion Nissan doesn't really directly communicate with dealers. I wouldn't expect them to know anything unless they decided to release a service bulletin. Of course this is highly unlikely as they would rather try and keep their problems private (also typical Japanese corporate behavior).

not just japanese, chris. lol. might want to look around a little.

No it's not (and not trying to insult the Japanese people here), but the corporate mentality in Japan is very good at it :) It's just the corporate mentality, nothing to do with the people themselves.

but that is your opinion. hear it from me. your generalization is not accurate. :tup: