Steering Lock Elimination

yellogixxer · 03-05-2012, 01:02 PM

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but my '11 was manufactured in June, 2011. There is no steering lock mechanism at all. With the front end lifted, the wheels turn freely. This might be a pain when I try to remove lug bolts to install spacers.

kenchan · 03-05-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yellogixxer

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but my '11 was manufactured in June, 2011. There is no steering lock mechanism at all. With the front end lifted, the wheels turn freely. This might be a pain when I try to remove lug bolts to install spacers.

Uh, RWD...

can you turn the steering L/R by hand using the tires? That's the question were asking.

yellogixxer · 03-05-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Uh, RWD...

can you turn the steering L/R by hand using the tires? That's the question were asking.

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear about that. Of course the wheels spin, but they also turn, as in no steering lock mechanism at all.

kenchan · 03-05-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by yellogixxer

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear about that. Of course the wheels spin, but they also turn, as in no steering lock mechanism at all.

Oh ok, thanks for the confirmation!

modme · 03-05-2012, 02:02 PM

That's interesting. So instead of fixing the steering lock mechanism, Nissan just eliminated the anti theft feature....

yellogixxer · 03-05-2012, 02:06 PM

And I just thought mine didn't work. I guess it didn't work because it doesn't exist!

kenchan · 03-05-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by modme

That's interesting. So instead of fixing the steering lock mechanism, Nissan just eliminated the anti theft feature....

unless the car has electronic parking brakes as security measure, yep.

zguynate · 03-05-2012, 02:59 PM

So this thing can obviously be by passed. Whether or not the models with the steering lock can is the question.

kenchan · 03-05-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

So this thing can obviously be by passed. Whether or not the models with the steering lock can is the question.

it's not a bypass if it didn't exist from the beginning.

and yah, that question was raised about a month or so ago with no solutions yet.

zguynate · 03-05-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

it's not a bypass if it didn't exist from the beginning.

and yah, that question was raised about a month or so ago with no solutions yet.

I understand it's not a bypass on the newer models lol. I'm talking about some how bypassing on the earlier ones.

wstar · 03-05-2012, 06:08 PM

Most likely on the new ones they basically removed the part and de-programmed support for it in the BCM and IPDM units. For the old ones we'd still need some kind of "fake" module that acts like the steering lock unit to fool the BCM (well, or just disable NATS completely via UpRev, but that's not really an option unless it's a trailered race-only car).

Vince · 03-05-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Most likely on the new ones they basically removed the part and de-programmed support for it in the BCM and IPDM units. For the old ones we'd still need some kind of "fake" module that acts like the steering lock unit to fool the BCM (well, or just disable NATS completely via UpRev, but that's not really an option unless it's a trailered race-only car).

That would be my guess as well. I wonder how "smart" the steering lock is...

wstar · 03-05-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

That would be my guess as well. I wonder how "smart" the steering lock is...

Some basic research on that was done in kenchan's thread, e.g. see this post and the next few pages of discussion after it: DIY: Replace dreaded steering-lock on 2009s and early 2010s.

Vince · 03-07-2012, 11:04 PM

I was looking to see if the BCM was updated at the same time (03/11) and sure enough, it was. Actually it's interesting to see how many BCM part numbers there are:

10/08 - 10/09 284B1-1EA0A
10/09 - 03/10 284B1-1EA0B
03/10 - 07/10 284B1-1ET0B
07/10 - 01/11 284B1-1ET4B
01/11 - 03/11 284B1-1ET6C
03/11 - 09/11 284B1-1EA5D
09/11 - now 284B1-1EA7D

The IPDM module changed a bunch too, but not at 03/11, so my guess would be the BCM is what got changed to not look for the steering lock...

GaleForce · 03-07-2012, 11:26 PM

Awesome sleuth work!

03-05-2012, 01:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
yellogixxer Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Reading, Pa Posts: 248 Drives: 07 C6 M6 Cpe Rep Power: 13	Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but my '11 was manufactured in June, 2011. There is no steering lock mechanism at all. With the front end lifted, the wheels turn freely. This might be a pain when I try to remove lug bolts to install spacers. __________________ '07 C6 6MT Coupe 03 Accord, DD, 400k miles

03-05-2012, 02:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
modme Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY Posts: 345 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 16	That's interesting. So instead of fixing the steering lock mechanism, Nissan just eliminated the anti theft feature.... __________________ GTM Twin Turbo Stage 2\|GTR Turbo/Engine Gauges\|KW V3 Coilovers\|HKS Exhaust\|Oil Cooler\| Vossen CV1

03-05-2012, 02:06 PM	#21 (permalink)
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03-05-2012, 02:59 PM	#23 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	So this thing can obviously be by passed. Whether or not the models with the steering lock can is the question. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

03-05-2012, 06:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Most likely on the new ones they basically removed the part and de-programmed support for it in the BCM and IPDM units. For the old ones we'd still need some kind of "fake" module that acts like the steering lock unit to fool the BCM (well, or just disable NATS completely via UpRev, but that's not really an option unless it's a trailered race-only car). __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

03-07-2012, 11:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
Vince Base Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 161 Drives: 12 370Z PW T/S/N 6MT Rep Power: 14	I was looking to see if the BCM was updated at the same time (03/11) and sure enough, it was. Actually it's interesting to see how many BCM part numbers there are: 10/08 - 10/09 284B1-1EA0A 10/09 - 03/10 284B1-1EA0B 03/10 - 07/10 284B1-1ET0B 07/10 - 01/11 284B1-1ET4B 01/11 - 03/11 284B1-1ET6C 03/11 - 09/11 284B1-1EA5D 09/11 - now 284B1-1EA7D The IPDM module changed a bunch too, but not at 03/11, so my guess would be the BCM is what got changed to not look for the steering lock... 370Zsteve likes this. __________________ -Vince 2012 Nissan 370Z Pearl White/Persimmon Touring/Sport/Nav 6MT 370Z Production Statistics - VIN Lookup Utility

03-07-2012, 11:26 PM	#30 (permalink)
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