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flashburn 02-29-2012 01:30 PM

Yeah, it's not foolish. I'm at 43,000 on my 2009, I'm thinking of doing the same thing. It's a tough pill to swallow though.

kenchan 02-29-2012 01:55 PM

yah, it was for me too... but it's insurance and you can sell it when you sell the car. so that's a good thing.


i recommend that you guys replace the security screws to regular screws so that it will make it real easy to replace in the field. (get the screws with the regular nut/hex head (now the allen-key hex) so you can keep a simple wrench in your trunk) even if you have RevD, i would still keep your working RevB in the trunk.

JerryB5 02-29-2012 01:58 PM

Thanks for the words of support. I really thought long and hard about spending that kind of dough, but the fear just over whelmed me. I really love driving this car and am very impressed every time I get in it. :driving:

I have only had the Z for a couple on months now. Found this garaged, PG, 6MT, touring edition, in Sacramento area over the holidays. Except for a little road rash, its in exceptional condition. Have Dynamated the hatch and doors, and done a few other minor mods.

kenchan 02-29-2012 02:04 PM

i didn't do much thinking actually... :D if i got stranded for reasons that i knew, i would be kicking myself so it was an easy decision. but the 500 wasn't just pocket change though. that's like 50 charburges and cheeze fries... :mad:

tjlazer 02-29-2012 03:03 PM

The question looming in my head is this. Has the Rev D unit solved all issues or can this one fail too???

Nick911sc 02-29-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1573143)
The question looming in my head is this. Has the Rev D unit solved all issues or can this one fail too???

GT-R's had the Units switched out to RevD and I haven't heard of any of them failing.

kenchan 02-29-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1573143)
The question looming in my head is this. Has the Rev D unit solved all issues or can this one fail too???

original GTR recall replaced RevA and RevB to RevC.

we are finding a few with problems on RevC...
RevD is current but i dont fully trust it either.

so, what i recommend is you buy RevD install it using regular screws, but keep your old but still working lock in your trunk + wrench.

kevr6 02-29-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1573339)
original GTR recall replaced RevA and RevB to RevC.

we are finding a few with problems on RevC...
RevD is current but i dont fully trust it either.

so, what i recommend is you buy RevD install it using regular screws, but keep your old but still working lock in your trunk + wrench.

I figure I'll be having this problem again even though I have "D" installed.

sonic370 02-29-2012 06:26 PM

Update on key reader warning..... got through to a live person at consumer affairs...... made a complaint of course got the run around they said someone
would be contacting me right! she said she was unaware of this issue. but would pass it along.............. good luck for anyone out of warranty..................

kenchan 02-29-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 1573632)
I figure I'll be having this problem again even though I have "D" installed.

yep, considering 2012 Z's are using a completely different steering lock system nissan knowz this design is not fully reliable.

AlphaSnacks 02-29-2012 08:27 PM

I'm thinking of visiting a dealer to see a 2012 and see what's changed in regards to the steering lock.

onzedge 02-29-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1573914)
I'm thinking of visiting a dealer to see a 2012 and see what's changed in regards to the steering lock.

The change is that there is no actual lock for the steering column.

SPOHN 02-29-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1573920)
The change is that there is no actual lock for the steering column.

That's why Nissan needs to reflash our ECU for us other guys and do away with the hole unit.

Nick911sc 02-29-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1573929)
That's why Nissan needs to reflash our ECU for us other guys and do away with the hole unit.

That's interesting because this is a totally viable, yet cheap option in terms of mass recalls on the part of nissan.

kenchan 02-29-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 1573933)
That's interesting because this is a totally viable, yet cheap option in terms of mass recalls on the part of nissan.

i'd be interested in seeing if you can turn the steering wheel on the 2012 with the engine turned off... :confused:

onzedge 02-29-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1573936)
i'd be interested in seeing if you can turn the steering wheel on the 2012 with the engine turned off... :confused:

Apparently, yes.

kenchan 02-29-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1573948)
Apparently, yes.

does the 2012's have electronic rear parking brake? is that how they can get away with no steering lock? :confused:

Nick911sc 02-29-2012 08:58 PM

maybe they're using new ECU parameters that monitor the steering the same way that the locking mechanism would to prevent any tampering?

kenchan 02-29-2012 09:01 PM

part of the steering lock is for safety... like physically locking the steering wheel from turning for parallel parking on hills and stuff. ive heard of electronic e-brakes taking over steering lock safety feature. TRW makes stuff like that. kinda doubt the 2012 has that? be quite a dramatic change imho.

azn370z 03-21-2012 03:33 PM

Kevr did you talk to Nissan about being reimbursed?

kevr6 03-21-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 1612979)
Kevr did you talk to Nissan about being reimbursed?

I am trying to track down a contact I have at Nissan. But as of yet no! I am running non stop all day so don't have much time!! I do indeed have to pursue this. If I get any new info I will definitely post.

deolee 03-21-2012 08:01 PM

It's a recall~just visit ur dealership and they should replace the relay. It's on the TSB bulletin part in the forum as well. IMO if you do care about your car, please check TSB all the time.

This is the TSB u should look for in the TSB bulletin.
TBS: 2009 – 2011 All Nissan Models: NATS SECURITY - VBC LOGIC

kevr6 03-24-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deolee (Post 1613439)
It's a recall~just visit ur dealership and they should replace the relay. It's on the TSB bulletin part in the forum as well. IMO if you do care about your car, please check TSB all the time.

This is the TSB u should look for in the TSB bulletin.
TBS: 2009 – 2011 All Nissan Models: NATS SECURITY - VBC LOGIC

A TSB is not a recall. Do you know if they mentioned Campaign status?

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