Paint peeling!

kenchan · 11-27-2011, 04:18 PM

i doubt nissan would cover that.

was that bumper repaired at the dealer before resale? if so, the dealer might fix it for you. but it's a known given (especially to a clearbra installer) if you peel back repainted surfaces the paint can pull up with it.

Imperial · 11-27-2011, 05:03 PM

Nothing was repaired on the vehicle to my knowledge... again I can tell them that the installer noticed the peeling during installation rather than the peeling was caused by the removal of the clear-bra. There's no way for them to disprove that claim.

Mandingo · 11-27-2011, 08:51 PM

Wow that is scary. I've had a clear bra on for a year.

It's also scary that it started yellowing so fast on your car...
Did you ever wax it with a fully synthetic wax or did you just leave it alone?

LakeShow · 11-27-2011, 09:47 PM

Can this be re-cleared? It's still smooth.

MattP725 · 11-27-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperial

Nothing was repaired on the vehicle to my knowledge... again I can tell them that the installer noticed the peeling during installation rather than the peeling was caused by the removal of the clear-bra. There's no way for them to disprove that claim.

So you're asking the forum for their opinion on whether the dealership will buy your lie not how to fix? Maybe this should be in the general section instead of the tech section.

rebe945 · 11-27-2011, 09:55 PM

I have Ultra VentureShield now for 2 yrs and looks great. My Z is black .

Ages · 11-27-2011, 09:57 PM

Lakeshow
that looks like it was "Burned" with a buffer. was that the case? if so when its cleared it will still look like that just shiny ><pour some water over it and see how it looks that should give you a rough idea of how it will look re-cleared. My professional opinion s it will need color blending and full clear coat on the panel.

MattP725 · 11-27-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rebe945

I have Ultra VentureShield now for 2 yrs and looks great. My Z is black .

Black would def hide discoloration better than white I'm sure.

Imperial · 11-28-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MattP725

So you're asking the forum for their opinion on whether the dealership will buy your lie not how to fix? Maybe this should be in the general section instead of the tech section.

Poor paint is poor paint... why should I give the dealer any more excuses not to honor a warranty claim?

Imperial · 11-28-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandingo

Wow that is scary. I've had a clear bra on for a year.

It's also scary that it started yellowing so fast on your car...
Did you ever wax it with a fully synthetic wax or did you just leave it alone?

It was waxed often by the clear-bra specific 3M wax that was provided by my original installer. In fact, my installer even commented on how well I was able to maintain the gloss on my original bra which goes to show how well I took care of it and yet it still yellowed.

Imperial · 11-28-2011, 08:39 AM

A little update. I now believe there's a possibility that my bumper was repainted by the dealership I purchased it from. With close examination of the peeling areas there appears to be another layer of pearl underneath the top coat unless the layer that is peeling is the clear coat which I cannot fully discern.

LakeShow · 11-28-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ages

Lakeshow
that looks like it was "Burned" with a buffer. was that the case? if so when its cleared it will still look like that just shiny ><pour some water over it and see how it looks that should give you a rough idea of how it will look re-cleared. My professional opinion s it will need color blending and full clear coat on the panel.

Yeah the dealer was trying to buff out the stains but obviously didn't work. Taking it to a body shop tomorrow, dealer is going to apparently make my car new again. Will the whole trunk have to be cleared or just by the spoiler?

Ages · 11-28-2011, 01:08 PM

If you see shine under the area that peeled its poor prep work. If you see just a dull finish that with no sanding scratches then it's delam. Both are shitty since there's no way to know the extent of the issue. Generally I would strip all the paint off the entire bumper to repair it since my shop warranties our work for life.

Ages · 11-28-2011, 01:11 PM

Lakeshow
The only way to do it right is to base coat the damaged areas and clear coat the entire hatch. Don't settle for less .

LakeShow · 11-28-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ages

Lakeshow
The only way to do it right is to base coat the damaged areas and clear coat the entire hatch. Don't settle for less .

Yeah I'm not going to settle for anything until I cannot spot that damage with my eyes. The spot still has metallic luster underneath and is fairly smooth but just discolored.

11-27-2011, 08:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mandingo Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 625 Drives: '10 370z 6spd Rep Power: 3371	Wow that is scary. I've had a clear bra on for a year. It's also scary that it started yellowing so fast on your car... Did you ever wax it with a fully synthetic wax or did you just leave it alone? __________________ some mods

11-27-2011, 09:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	Can this be re-cleared? It's still smooth. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

11-27-2011, 09:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
rebe945 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: middleburg hts, ohio Posts: 491 Drives: 2009 370Z black 7at Rep Power: 15	About the Clear Bra I have Ultra VentureShield now for 2 yrs and looks great. My Z is black .

11-27-2011, 09:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ages Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MA Posts: 184 Drives: 11 370Z SP MT Gunmet Rep Power: 14	Lakeshow that looks like it was "Burned" with a buffer. was that the case? if so when its cleared it will still look like that just shiny ><pour some water over it and see how it looks that should give you a rough idea of how it will look re-cleared. My professional opinion s it will need color blending and full clear coat on the panel. Last edited by Ages; 11-27-2011 at 09:59 PM.

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11-27-2011, 04:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i doubt nissan would cover that. was that bumper repaired at the dealer before resale? if so, the dealer might fix it for you. but it's a known given (especially to a clearbra installer) if you peel back repainted surfaces the paint can pull up with it.

11-27-2011, 05:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
Imperial Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 486 Drives: 10 Nismo 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 15	Nothing was repaired on the vehicle to my knowledge... again I can tell them that the installer noticed the peeling during installation rather than the peeling was caused by the removal of the clear-bra. There's no way for them to disprove that claim.

11-28-2011, 08:39 AM	#26 (permalink)
Imperial Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 486 Drives: 10 Nismo 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 15	A little update. I now believe there's a possibility that my bumper was repainted by the dealership I purchased it from. With close examination of the peeling areas there appears to be another layer of pearl underneath the top coat unless the layer that is peeling is the clear coat which I cannot fully discern.

11-28-2011, 01:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
Ages Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MA Posts: 184 Drives: 11 370Z SP MT Gunmet Rep Power: 14	If you see shine under the area that peeled its poor prep work. If you see just a dull finish that with no sanding scratches then it's delam. Both are shitty since there's no way to know the extent of the issue. Generally I would strip all the paint off the entire bumper to repair it since my shop warranties our work for life.

11-28-2011, 01:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ages Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MA Posts: 184 Drives: 11 370Z SP MT Gunmet Rep Power: 14	Lakeshow The only way to do it right is to base coat the damaged areas and clear coat the entire hatch. Don't settle for less .