Dealer says No Clear Coat On My Car - Is this true?

TropicZ · 11-02-2011, 06:02 AM

Hi all, waiting to take delivery of my new Z. Dealership said they applied a fresh coat of clear coat on the paint. Why would they have to do this? I always thought the cars get their clear coat after painting in the factory.

I got to see the pre-delivery state of my car last week and it was covered with some sort of sticky substance that had attracted a layer of dust. Also, there were pieces of white film covering some vulnerable areas. It has sat in this state in a warehouse for a year since it was shipped here.

TreeSemdyZee · 11-02-2011, 07:09 AM

I don't know why the dealer would add clear coat. They come from the factory with clear.
The white film is standard. Look at a new car transport truck the next time you see one on the road.

scottIN · 11-02-2011, 07:15 AM

They're full of it. They may slap a quick coat of wax on a car, but they're not going to spray it. Don't let them try to charge you for it.

The sticky residue is from the protective wrap - usually it's just around the edges, but if it's been on there for too long it could be everywhere. A good bug & tar remover will take it off - just be sure to use a microfiber towel and wipe gently-don't scrub-the residue could have particles embedded in it.

After you get all the dust / sticky residue off, you'll probably need to clay it - especially if it's been sitting in an industrial area / warehouse.

Personally, I don't let the dealer prep my car. They can take all the plastic off for inspection, but that's it. You never know what their 'detailer' is going to do. I've seen dealers scrape wrap residue off with a plastic razor blade and leave scratches all over the car. Or hit it with an orbital to take it off - nothing better than swirled paint straight from the dealer's lot!

God-Speed · 11-02-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN

They're full of it. They may slap a quick coat of wax on a car, but they're not going to spray it. Don't let them try to charge you for it.

The sticky residue is from the protective wrap - usually it's just around the edges, but if it's been on there for too long it could be everywhere. A good bug & tar remover will take it off - just be sure to use a microfiber towel and wipe gently-don't scrub-the residue could have particles embedded in it.

After you get all the dust / sticky residue off, you'll probably need to clay it - especially if it's been sitting in an industrial area / warehouse.

Personally, I don't let the dealer prep my car. They can take all the plastic off for inspection, but that's it. You never know what their 'detailer' is going to do. I've seen dealers scrape wrap residue off with a plastic razor blade and leave scratches all over the car. Or hit it with an orbital to take it off - nothing better than swirled paint straight from the dealer's lot!

Just take your time and do a good walk around the car before you sign!!!

cheshirecat · 11-02-2011, 09:42 AM

Sounds like they put on some kind of anti-rust sealant or something. Don't pay for it if you didn't ask for it.

red6spd · 11-02-2011, 10:13 AM

Make sure the car was not in some kind of accident, I have heard horror stories of people finding out there brand new car was involved in some kind of incident while shipping or something.

USMCASA · 11-02-2011, 10:26 AM

just an fyi, factory paint is a single stage paint. there isn't an actual "clear coat" as this would imply a basecoat, color coat, and finally a clear coat. the factory paint is paper thin single stage over a basecoat or "sealer". this is a more cost efficient way of spraying cars in a factory rather than the 3 step process.

scottIN · 11-02-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA

just an fyi, factory paint is a single stage paint. there isn't an actual "clear coat" as this would imply a basecoat, color coat, and finally a clear coat. the factory paint is paper thin single stage over a basecoat or "sealer". this is a more cost efficient way of spraying cars in a factory rather than the 3 step process.

Are you sure? I've never heard of a modern car being a mixed color / clear. I've polished a few Nissans and I can say 100% they were color / cleared - my pad didn't turn the paint color.

USMCASA · 11-02-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN

Are you sure? I've never heard of a modern car being a mixed color / clear. I've polished a few Nissans and I can say 100% they were color / cleared - my pad didn't turn the paint color.

i am 100% sure. i used to work at a body shop

be VERY careful if you polish the factory paint as it takes away from the surface and can alter the color if it wears too thin

as for the no color on your pad, there is a difference in the type/quality of single stage they use. sherwin williams has a new single stage that looks so perfect that you would be hard pressed to find the difference in them.

scottIN · 11-02-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA

i am 100% sure. i used to work at a body shop

be VERY careful if you polish the factory paint as it takes away from the surface and can alter the color if it wears too thin

as for the no color on your pad, there is a difference in the type/quality of single stage they use. sherwin williams has a new single stage that looks so perfect that you would be hard pressed to find the difference in them.

Just went out and tested my Mom's Maxima - it has a CC. Are you saying that Nissan paints 370Z's different from all their other cars? I've been detailing for 20+ years and though I've never done a 370Z, I've never seen a car newer than the last decade that was SS / no CC (even repaints are cleared nowadays). If you're not getting color on your pad - it's cleared. If you get color, it's SS. Pretty easy to tell.

kenchan · 11-02-2011, 03:27 PM

there's clear coat on my Z...

red6spd · 11-02-2011, 03:29 PM

I dont know much about painting cars so thats what I kept my mouth shut... But I'm pretty sure all Nissan products have at least one coat of CC.

Rui Z · 11-02-2011, 03:39 PM

There is clear coat on the Z. It's just that the clear coat is softer and thinner than alot of other car brands.

Are you sure the dealer installed clear coat and not clear bra?

Rui Z · 11-02-2011, 03:42 PM

Alot of dealerships install clear bra right away.

TypeOne · 11-02-2011, 04:30 PM

Wait... is clearcoat an option??

11-02-2011, 06:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
TropicZ Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 31 Drives: Brilliant Silver 6MT Rep Power: 14	Dealer says No Clear Coat On My Car - Is this true? Hi all, waiting to take delivery of my new Z. Dealership said they applied a fresh coat of clear coat on the paint. Why would they have to do this? I always thought the cars get their clear coat after painting in the factory. I got to see the pre-delivery state of my car last week and it was covered with some sort of sticky substance that had attracted a layer of dust. Also, there were pieces of white film covering some vulnerable areas. It has sat in this state in a warehouse for a year since it was shipped here.

11-02-2011, 10:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Make sure the car was not in some kind of accident, I have heard horror stories of people finding out there brand new car was involved in some kind of incident while shipping or something. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

11-02-2011, 03:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	I dont know much about painting cars so thats what I kept my mouth shut... But I'm pretty sure all Nissan products have at least one coat of CC. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

11-02-2011, 03:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rui Z Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: (.)(.) Posts: 931 Drives: 8====D Rep Power: 16	There is clear coat on the Z. It's just that the clear coat is softer and thinner than alot of other car brands. Are you sure the dealer installed clear coat and not clear bra? __________________

11-02-2011, 03:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rui Z Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: (.)(.) Posts: 931 Drives: 8====D Rep Power: 16	Alot of dealerships install clear bra right away. __________________

11-02-2011, 07:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	I don't know why the dealer would add clear coat. They come from the factory with clear. The white film is standard. Look at a new car transport truck the next time you see one on the road.

11-02-2011, 07:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
scottIN Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Castle, Indiana Posts: 764 Drives: '12 370Z Rep Power: 55	They're full of it. They may slap a quick coat of wax on a car, but they're not going to spray it. Don't let them try to charge you for it. The sticky residue is from the protective wrap - usually it's just around the edges, but if it's been on there for too long it could be everywhere. A good bug & tar remover will take it off - just be sure to use a microfiber towel and wipe gently-don't scrub-the residue could have particles embedded in it. After you get all the dust / sticky residue off, you'll probably need to clay it - especially if it's been sitting in an industrial area / warehouse. Personally, I don't let the dealer prep my car. They can take all the plastic off for inspection, but that's it. You never know what their 'detailer' is going to do. I've seen dealers scrape wrap residue off with a plastic razor blade and leave scratches all over the car. Or hit it with an orbital to take it off - nothing better than swirled paint straight from the dealer's lot!

11-02-2011, 09:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
cheshirecat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,428 Drives: N54 135i Rep Power: 292	Sounds like they put on some kind of anti-rust sealant or something. Don't pay for it if you didn't ask for it.

11-02-2011, 10:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
USMCASA A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,152 Drives: 09 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 18	just an fyi, factory paint is a single stage paint. there isn't an actual "clear coat" as this would imply a basecoat, color coat, and finally a clear coat. the factory paint is paper thin single stage over a basecoat or "sealer". this is a more cost efficient way of spraying cars in a factory rather than the 3 step process.

11-02-2011, 03:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	there's clear coat on my Z...

11-02-2011, 04:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1851	Wait... is clearcoat an option??

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