UAM Widebody Fender Teaser...

NewYorkJon34 · 10-26-2011, 12:02 AM

Id say looks, plus the ability to run wider tires/offsets

bullitt5897 · 10-26-2011, 12:28 AM

This style of fender does have an aerodynamic advantage over stock. This style of fender creates more downforce by allowing air that is normally trapped under the vehicle to exit to the side. There is more science to it but basically by allowing the air to exit in this area you creat a little more downforce and also help illeviate some of the aerodynamic drag. I could draw it out on a dry erase board for you

KaienZ34 · 10-26-2011, 12:29 AM

Ron · 10-26-2011, 01:05 AM

IMO they don't flow too well, but if you ever do these count me in for the GB

JSE + Bullit Fenders

Get to it!

Waiz · 10-26-2011, 01:06 AM

Nice, in for more pics!

Jamaica · 10-26-2011, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron

IMO they don't flow too well, but if you ever do these count me in for the GB

JSE + Bullit Fenders

Get to it!

oh wow...thats hott!!!!

Ron · 10-26-2011, 01:11 AM

flows much better doesn't it... please make it

Brazilbro · 10-26-2011, 01:13 AM

Looks good.. could you run a 305 square setup with these

zero · 10-26-2011, 01:17 AM

It looks like the same fender on this GT-R,

1,000 hp Nissan GT-R Coming from BenSopra - autoevolution

phelan · 10-26-2011, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports

This style of fender does have an aerodynamic advantage over stock. This style of fender creates more downforce by allowing air that is normally trapped under the vehicle to exit to the side. There is more science to it but basically by allowing the air to exit in this area you creat a little more downforce and also help illeviate some of the aerodynamic drag. I could draw it out on a dry erase board for you

Create more downforce is a nice thought, but it isn't a good thing in normal operation of a vehicle...this is a very track oriented fender. For a street vehicle it is increasing the drag coefficient as air passes not just underneath, but also to the side at a high velocity. It's just another pressure 'wall' for air to hit and slow you down / rob you of fuel / yada yada yada. You do gain a little in that the fender wall is cut away slightly, though. I'm not sure what the overall effect is without wind-tunnel testing the design and seeing what you get.

It just looks so odd. The 370Z is a very 'organic' design, and this is akin to taking a scalpel to it and lopping off a huge chunk of it. Not sure what to think yet. Get it painted and photoshot.

bullitt5897 · 10-26-2011, 02:20 AM

These are teasers. I will have video and pictures of the fenders after SEMA. For those who dont think it flows well... these pictures were meant to give the concept. This is an aggressive design and that will complement the kit that is already on the car.

We can design an Adapter/Cover piece for those who have to have one for the lower cut away section.

Also as far as hurting your gas mileage I highly doubt it... having my car... WILL LOL!!!

bullitt5897 · 10-26-2011, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron

IMO they don't flow too well, but if you ever do these count me in for the GB

JSE + Bullit Fenders

Get to it!

Thats not the complete fender... Your missing the diffuser plate that hides the whole cutaway and the side skirt as well that is all attached.

Meet:

Its a nice kit just really expensive and for the 350z!

phelan · 10-26-2011, 02:28 AM

Wandered to DTM's Facebook, this is the 'teaser' you speak of? Concept? Or is this the production piece?

And while I appreciate you could care less about your car's mileage, given your performance goals, I was simply speaking from an engineering / physics standpoint. I am not insinuating you instantaneously turn into a Hummer for MPG. I may be wrong as I am a bit rusty on my aerodynamics, but it just seems to me that for typical use AND IN THE LONG RUN, the increased drag coefficient doesn't help the typical driver who may look at this as a 'performance part'. It's track oriented, or done just for looks.

But whatever, if you'd like to laugh at my questioning, then I'm not going to bother.

Ron · 10-26-2011, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports

Thats not the complete fender... Your missing the diffuser plate that hides the whole cutaway and the side skirt as well that is all attached.

Meet:

Its a nice kit just really expensive and for the 350z!

I know that fender from the superleggera, that doesn't mean it can't be made just like in the first picture without the cf cover or adapted to the 370z. It was a suggestion since IMO it makes it look more refined. That is all.

bullitt5897 · 10-26-2011, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan

Wandered to DTM's Facebook, this is the 'teaser' you speak of? Concept? Or is this the production piece?

And while I appreciate you could care less about your car's mileage, given your performance goals, I was simply speaking from an engineering / physics standpoint. I am not insinuating you instantaneously turn into a Hummer for MPG. I may be wrong as I am a bit rusty on my aerodynamics, but it just seems to me that for typical use AND IN THE LONG RUN, the increased drag coefficient doesn't help the typical driver who may look at this as a 'performance part'. It's track oriented, or done just for looks.

But whatever, if you'd like to laugh at my questioning, then I'm not going to bother.

Phelan,

You know for a fact I am not poking fun at you. Simply put the fender will not be increasing the drag coefficient to cause even a single mpg loss... I was however making fun that my car probably has the mileage of a hummer at this moment.

10-26-2011, 12:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
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10-26-2011, 12:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	This style of fender does have an aerodynamic advantage over stock. This style of fender creates more downforce by allowing air that is normally trapped under the vehicle to exit to the side. There is more science to it but basically by allowing the air to exit in this area you creat a little more downforce and also help illeviate some of the aerodynamic drag. I could draw it out on a dry erase board for you __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

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10-26-2011, 01:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	IMO they don't flow too well, but if you ever do these count me in for the GB JSE + Bullit Fenders Get to it! __________________ 2011 Twin Turbo PW nismo #113 - My Journal - My TT Build Thread [ GTM GTX Stg2 TT \|\| HKS EVC6 \|\| Custom CarPC \|\| F.I 3'' TDX CBE \|\| SB 6puck clutch/ZSpeed CSC \|\| BC BR Coilovers \|\| SPC camber arms \|\| Work VSS-X \|\| Custom Headlights \|\| PW:JDM CF Covers \|\| Seibon CF Engine Cover ] Last edited by Ron; 10-26-2011 at 01:09 AM.

10-26-2011, 01:11 AM	#22 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	flows much better doesn't it... please make it __________________ 2011 Twin Turbo PW nismo #113 - My Journal - My TT Build Thread [ GTM GTX Stg2 TT \|\| HKS EVC6 \|\| Custom CarPC \|\| F.I 3'' TDX CBE \|\| SB 6puck clutch/ZSpeed CSC \|\| BC BR Coilovers \|\| SPC camber arms \|\| Work VSS-X \|\| Custom Headlights \|\| PW:JDM CF Covers \|\| Seibon CF Engine Cover ]

10-26-2011, 01:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	Nice, in for more pics!

10-26-2011, 01:13 AM	#23 (permalink)
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10-26-2011, 01:17 AM	#24 (permalink)
zero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,259 Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R Rep Power: 22	It looks like the same fender on this GT-R, 1,000 hp Nissan GT-R Coming from BenSopra - autoevolution __________________

10-26-2011, 02:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	These are teasers. I will have video and pictures of the fenders after SEMA. For those who dont think it flows well... these pictures were meant to give the concept. This is an aggressive design and that will complement the kit that is already on the car. We can design an Adapter/Cover piece for those who have to have one for the lower cut away section. Also as far as hurting your gas mileage I highly doubt it... having my car... WILL LOL!!! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

10-26-2011, 02:28 AM	#28 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	Wandered to DTM's Facebook, this is the 'teaser' you speak of? Concept? Or is this the production piece? And while I appreciate you could care less about your car's mileage, given your performance goals, I was simply speaking from an engineering / physics standpoint. I am not insinuating you instantaneously turn into a Hummer for MPG. I may be wrong as I am a bit rusty on my aerodynamics, but it just seems to me that for typical use AND IN THE LONG RUN, the increased drag coefficient doesn't help the typical driver who may look at this as a 'performance part'. It's track oriented, or done just for looks. But whatever, if you'd like to laugh at my questioning, then I'm not going to bother. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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