Pics of the Z after a mild clean-up.. can you guess what was used?

Originally Posted by gaveup

I think I know why you may have been banned.

Wax/LSP does VERY little in terms of bringing out any kind of shine. It's all in the polishing itself. Wax/sealant/whatever is just meant to protect. The only time wax would really make a shine difference is if it had fillers that masked the swirls.

I did a fun little trick like this with my detailing friends. They wanted to know what lsp I used as the car had a great, deep gloss to it. They kind of felt a little stupid when I told them I had yet to put the wax on the car. Some people get it, and some people buy into product hype offering the MOST AMAZING SHINE IN THE WORLD.

It's all really in the mind. Some people are happy with Adams, some are happy with Pinnacle, Megs, mothers, whatever. Fact is, it's all the prep work (polishing, wet sanding...etc) that goes into have a car with flawless paint. The majority of the products used mean very little (I promise I could walk into pep boys and only buying products from them do a detail job that will rival pro detailers with "pro" products). Pictures also mean nothing as your eyes will view everything differently.

Originally Posted by gaveup

And since it seems you like putting down adams, I will say this. It's all pretty much the same. Some companies like to say they formulate this and scientists that, but realistically a LARGE majority of detailing suppliers just rebottle, rescent and resell other products (4 star what?)

There's really only a few detailing suppliers out there that can afford these scientists, and one is Meguiars. And they make awesome products (even their OTC stuff is decent)

Originally Posted by 6MT

Why did AK ban you?

Originally Posted by Methodical4u

Most people won't know what you used or if you used anything at all no. However, people who have been at this for a while can tell you what was used. For instance... one pic I looked at on a detailing site asked if people could tell which side was which on a hood he had done. I guess correctly because a sealant look is a pretty glossy, and candy coated look, while a standard nuba is more warm and natural, it also doesn't always seem to bring out flake as much as sealants.

In person I can most definitely tell the difference between the Werkstatt that I used (by the way Werkstatt makes their own stuff) and many of the other products I have tried. Certain things about it just stand out more.

Originally Posted by gaveup

You say that...But my little test was done at a detailfest with a lot of "top notch, top dollar" detailers (I am also friends with a few employees there). Sealants and waxes add a very MINIMAL gloss or shine difference. Can I tell if someone has a LSP on their car? It depends on the environment more than anything. With overcast, I highly doubt you could tell the difference between werkstatt and NXT.

Pictures are the WORST way to show off a good detail/shine. The majority of people (and their cameras) will focus on the object in reflection which gives the appearance of a flawless, perfect detail. On a darker car, that can hide A LOT. I see detailers trying to promote their services do this all the time.

But hey, I've only been doing this over 10 years, trying every product I can get my hands on (friends in the industry at a MAJOR reseller have definitely helped this), detailed multiple cars, so what do I know? At the end of the day, you find what you like and what works for you and you use it, but don't be surprised if others do not share your same opinion.