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nismodreamr 08-12-2011 02:31 PM

Update on harness bars?
 
Last time I researched this with a few vendors about 6 months ago there still weren't any racing harness bars in production, anyone have any updates or information on this?

WWJD 08-12-2011 05:27 PM

Amuse makes one. If you wanna save some $$, you can always go for custom. Should cost less than $500

SPOHN 08-12-2011 07:53 PM

Custom would be the way to go.

6spd 08-13-2011 10:37 AM

is the standard rear bar not enough? ive seen a few track cars using them rather than a harness bar for their harnesses.

nismodreamr 08-16-2011 10:23 AM

sorry guys, didn't see the responses, I had thought about custom just wondered if there was something easier.. Also @ 6SPD do you have more information on this? I thought it wasn't safe to do that?

6spd 08-16-2011 03:31 PM

no info, just the memory of what ive seen in a few pics of some shops track cars.

oleg 08-16-2011 04:56 PM

I wouldn't trust the stock one but if I got a beefed up rear bar I would use that

6spd 08-16-2011 05:23 PM

i'd guess it'd be auto-x safe, but not track safe.

theDreamer 08-16-2011 05:26 PM

The problem with the stock bar is it is hollow on the inside and not enough support on each end if you were to crash.

Z1Performance 08-16-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1265034)
i'd guess it'd be auto-x safe, but not track safe.

not safe for one means not safe period - crash's happen at auto-x too

6spd 08-17-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z1Performance (Post 1265054)
not safe for one means not safe period - crash's happen at auto-x too

true

gozfast 08-17-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1265044)
The problem with the stock bar is it is hollow on the inside and not enough support on each end if you were to crash.

Is there a way to reinforce the stock bar and mounts to make it sufficient?

theDreamer 08-17-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gozfast (Post 1265918)
Is there a way to reinforce the stock bar and mounts to make it sufficient?

If you are going through the work of doing that you may as well just replace it with better material from the ground up. That way you are not trusting the original piece which might crack and still fail.

gozfast 08-17-2011 10:23 AM

I was thinking of a bar inserted into the stock aluminum one and then triangulated with brackets of some kind to the upper belt mounts. That's kind of what aftermarket harness bars do. Think that might work?

6spd 08-18-2011 04:29 PM

itd be much easier to have a bar fabricated from scratch.

nismodreamr 08-18-2011 08:34 PM

thanks to everyone for all the input, I wish someone would just pony up and start producing a legit harness bar (that isn't like 900 bucks) it would give my car a much better feel on autox weekends

DJ-of-E 08-19-2011 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismodreamr (Post 1269247)
thanks to everyone for all the input, I wish someone would just pony up and start producing a legit harness bar (that isn't like 900 bucks) it would give my car a much better feel on autox weekends

Honestly, you already dropped a lot of $$$ on this. The Amuse bar should be more than enough. What $1000 gonna spurn ya for options and safety? :stirthepot:

sig11 08-19-2011 09:51 AM

Isn't there an issue with belt angle with that bar?

theDreamer 08-19-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 1269794)
Isn't there an issue with belt angle with that bar?

That was because of the single harness made for RHD and then you flipped it for LHD, but Amuse has produced a dual one so you do not have to flip it.

sig11 08-19-2011 11:03 AM

ahhhh Interesting. I didn't catch that.

nismodreamr 08-19-2011 11:48 AM

ugh I don't want to spring for the amuse bar, but it seems to be the only "already produced" option thus far..

sig11 08-19-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismodreamr (Post 1270061)
ugh I don't want to spring for the amuse bar, but it seems to be the only "already produced" option thus far..

You could try contacting BGTV8 See:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...rness-bar.html

nismodreamr 08-19-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 1270152)
You could try contacting BGTV8 See:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...rness-bar.html

thanks for the lead! :tup:

Mozen 08-19-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1269809)
That was because of the single harness made for RHD and then you flipped it for LHD, but Amuse has produced a dual one so you do not have to flip it.

And thats a fact...why? because i have the dam RHD one lol. But... doesn't matter now that i have a cage and ive always loved shiny things!

The thing is, the Amuse bar isnt all that special inside either, but it would do the job. The issue is at the ends where it mounts to the car. I just dont think its secure enough for high load like you would get in a crash.

I know pics dont help...but....haha

http://www.the370z.com/members/mozen...houston-tx.jpg


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