Replica body Kit?

TypeOne · 07-22-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Econ

im tired, and dont feel like reading all that, so ill assume it is dilligent.

....well said, rep for you!

Sorry for the rant... it's a dear subject to me. When your livelihood depends on it, you'd have a passion to fight it I guess.

Jamaica · 07-22-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

If you can't afford to buy nice parts(*regardless of what type of car you drive*) then you shouldn't buy anything. (in my opinion, of course)

I know guys with Honda Civic's that save their money and spend it on a $1500 front bumper, just because they want high quality, nice stuff.

Quality is quality, regardless of what you are buying for. I bought a $50 iPhone case yesterday because the $10 case was a cheap piece of china crap. (even though they looked the same)

Selling or buying fake, copied parts will only HURT our industry. Obviously some companies get offended when this fact is brought up because they try to make it seem ok.

The argument "hey, who needs to pay all this money for the same parts" isn't going to work. You pay for so much more when you buy an authentic part.

If you (and not you personally) have a successful company selling knock offs, why don't you try to be original and let other people copy you? Tell me how that goes.

How about you ask Shine Auto?
You dont pay for so much more. The Authentic part has flaws and errors. JDM parts are not always perfect. Buying fake, hurts the JDM community but the American community benefits. IF Companies were willing to go half way then we wouldnt have issues with replicas simple. I can say this, When I bought my Authentic kit from a vendor on here, total jerks about the whole procedure. Thankfully another vendor (Amplified Motorsports) were able to help out with the second one. I mean imagine spending 10k on kits and they fit like crap? tell me is that money well spent?

TypeOne · 07-22-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

How about you ask Shine Auto?
You dont pay for so much more. The Authentic part has flaws and errors. JDM parts are not always perfect. Buying fake, hurts the JDM community but the American community benefits. IF Companies were willing to go half way then we wouldnt have issues with replicas simple. I can say this, When I bought my Authentic kit from a vendor on here, total jerks about the whole procedure. Thankfully another vendor (Amplified Motorsports) were able to help out with the second one. I mean imagine spending 10k on kits and they fit like crap? tell me is that money well spent?

Is that the kit you bought to copy?

McNeil370 · 07-22-2011, 05:44 PM

sometimes the copy can be improved over the original. but there allways has to be an original to copy/clone. tough choice

Jamaica · 07-22-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

Is that the kit you bought to copy?

Nope. You only need one kit to make a copy not two. The second one was sold after a week after i picked it up.

docaam · 07-22-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Ztune

The problem is they don't just lose profit from one sale, it's more like 20, 30, 40 or even more in some cases; it all starts with just 1.

Regarding the 10% of value comment, does that logic extend to other parts as well because Work Wheels aren't cheap!

For me that logic was limited to amuse only, I have spent more on other parts where i thought its needed. In fact as I said I used my savings to spend on other parts.

docaam · 07-22-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

If you can't afford to buy nice parts(*regardless of what type of car you drive*) then you shouldn't buy anything. (in my opinion, of course)

I know guys with Honda Civic's that save their money and spend it on a $1500 front bumper, just because they want high quality, nice stuff.

Quality is quality, regardless of what you are buying for. I bought a $50 iPhone case yesterday because the $10 case was a cheap piece of china crap. (even though they looked the same)

Selling or buying fake, copied parts will only HURT our industry. Obviously some companies get offended when this fact is brought up because they try to make it seem ok.

The argument "hey, who needs to pay all this money for the same parts" isn't going to work. You pay for so much more when you buy an authentic part.

If you (and not you personally) have a successful company selling knock offs, why don't you try to be original and let other people copy you? Tell me how that goes.

I bought Shineauto replica amuse to save 3500$ and it was worth it, fitment was spot on

I will say again if you guys feel to support feel free to buy original, for me it was a waste of money just for the bodykit, mainly talking about quality replica body parts, for performance side there shouldnt be any compromise.

Ztoon · 07-22-2011, 09:33 PM

I support the JDM guys that design and craft the originals. Anybody that's seen my car knows there's not much Nissan o.e.m. left on the exterior.
After paying top dollar for everything from Amuse, Mines, Seibon, etc., I ordered side skirts from Shine, @ 1/4 the price, cause I had to see to believe. I was ready to ship them back if they weren't spot on.
Sheeit! There's got to be some price adjustments from Japan for the North American market for them to survive, as these replicas are of the same quality with better fitment!
Just economic reality.

Raizon · 07-22-2011, 10:13 PM

I wonder how many people would actually buy the authentic Amuse kit if no replica exist in this world. I can't imagine it being a whole lot more then they have sold now.

I bet most people would never even consider getting a body kit if they had to spend $6k+ on any authentic kit so even if replicas doesn't exist, JDM wouldn't necessarily be getting that much more orders on their kit.

Buy a replica wheel and they will eventually find out how bad they are versus the authentic wheel. But when replica kits are getting same or better fitments than the authentic kit, then its even harder to justify spending more on the real kit.

Like most people said, pricing needs to be more reasonable in this economy or its too hard for most people to justify spending that much money on a kit.

kenchan · 07-22-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by docaam

I bought Shineauto replica amuse to save 3500$ and it was worth it, fitment was spot on

I will say again if you guys feel to support feel free to buy original, for me it was a waste of money just for the bodykit, mainly talking about quality replica body parts, for performance side there shouldnt be any compromise.

Yah but coming from a guy that cant make up his mind doing all the different faux (or watever) kits, vinyls, and paints I'm saving hell of a lot more money on buying just the originals I wanted for my car and keeping them. And I can bet you that my car runs better than yours like how a real Z was meant to be. Not just a pinup girl.

Main issue with you is you seem to lack focus and spend on all kinds of stuff that can probably buy a second Z or a higher performance car. That's a much bigger waste of money to me.

but it is entertaining to watch how your car transforms.

kenchan · 07-22-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raizon

I wonder how many people would actually buy the authentic Amuse kit if no replica exist in this world. I can't imagine it being a whole lot more then they have sold now.

I bet most people would never even consider getting a body kit if they had to spend $6k+ on any authentic kit so even if replicas doesn't exist, JDM wouldn't necessarily be getting that much more orders on their kit.

Buy a replica wheel and they will eventually find out how bad they are versus the authentic wheel. But when replica kits are getting same or better fitments than the authentic kit, then its even harder to justify spending more on the real kit.

Like most people said, pricing needs to be more reasonable in this economy or its too hard for most people to justify spending that much money on a kit.

Cant afford it, don't buy it or work harder and make the income you need to achieve your goal. You faux buyers lack ambition and buy shortcuts at the expense of the true designers.

. Well, just voicing my thoughts.

Personally, I don't think the amuse kit looks all that great. Only the side pieces I'd consider if that was the style I wanted. If I wanted that kit on my Z, it would have already been installed 2 yrs ago.

Rui Z · 07-22-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by haddy98

Hey guys. I just want to ask your opinions about replica kits. I'm planning to get a replica body kit. What do you think about it? The ori is way too expensive for me. What is the difference between the replica and the ori?

Thanks in advanced

Don't get fakes. Buy original.....it has more soul.

de_dust · 07-23-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Yah but coming from a guy that cant make up his mind doing all the different faux (or watever) kits, vinyls, and paints I'm saving hell of a lot more money on buying just the originals I wanted for my car and keeping them. And I can bet you that my car runs better than yours like how a real Z was meant to be. Not just a pinup girl.

Main issue with you is you seem to lack focus and spend on all kinds of stuff that can probably buy a second Z or a higher performance car. That's a much bigger waste of money to me.

but it is entertaining to watch how your car transforms.

dude give it a break. u just coming out as a douche. each person has the right to buy whatever they want with their money and you have to accept how it is. if u really care about the original manf, why don't you just contact them and report. their IP is the only thing they can use to protect themselves, and it would be easy for them to enforce. maybe this is the reason why we are not seeing Zele kit replicas. they can at least force some of these companies to get a license agreement with them (which can be an advantage for one of these companies doing replicas because it will corner the US market for them).

it doesn't appear that amuse care anyways, or else they would have taken action already. they're probably thinking its free advertisement for them.

props to these companies providing replicas/CF versions for having good quality, which is really the only concern for replicas.

tabrams31 · 07-23-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by de_dust

dude give it a break. u just coming out as a douche. each person has the right to buy whatever they want with their money and you have to accept how it is. if u really care about the original manf, why don't you just contact them and report. their IP is the only thing they can use to protect themselves, and it would be easy for them to enforce. maybe this is the reason why we are not seeing Zele kit replicas. they can at least force some of these companies to get a license agreement with them (which can be an advantage for one of these companies doing replicas because it will corner the US market for them).

it doesn't appear that amuse care anyways, or else they would have taken action already. they're probably thinking its free advertisement for them.

props to these companies providing replicas/CF versions for having good quality, which is really the only concern for replicas.

de_dust you are right.. Kenchan you are really taking this to a new level.. To talk crap about another member because he chooses to buy performance parts and save money on kits.. Wow - get a life already!! And if you're so pro-origional kits then make one you DOUCHE!!! Have you even tried? What is your kit called? I would love to see your designs? That's right - I don't think you've made one.. I don't even know who you are?

My thoughts - save your money buy FAKE!!! Fake but improved!!! If Amuse and Zele want to sell in the states then make the price lower. It's freaking fiberglass fools!!! And to spend that $$ on real expensive JDM parts - then you're that guy that wasted your $$ and should have saved your $$ to buy an M3.

hdskull · 07-23-2011, 01:41 AM

The American dollar isn't really worth anything, otherwise, the JDM parts would be more affordable. The standard of living is higher over there.

07-22-2011, 09:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
Ztoon Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: B.C. Posts: 578 Drives: '09 370a7 Rep Power: 25	I support the JDM guys that design and craft the originals. Anybody that's seen my car knows there's not much Nissan o.e.m. left on the exterior. After paying top dollar for everything from Amuse, Mines, Seibon, etc., I ordered side skirts from Shine, @ 1/4 the price, cause I had to see to believe. I was ready to ship them back if they weren't spot on. Sheeit! There's got to be some price adjustments from Japan for the North American market for them to survive, as these replicas are of the same quality with better fitment! Just economic reality. __________________ Stillen G3\|CBE\|ground kit, F.I. H.F.C., C.F. fangs\|mirrors\|pillars, Hotchkis, SSR Type-F, RE-11, UpRev, BC BR coilovers 15% tint, LED black hdlts, color match handles, Dynamat, tail lt. tint, Mines C.F. frt. lip\|rear spoiler, Amuse rear,skirts, vented fenders, c.f. vented hood, gloss blk. roof

07-22-2011, 10:13 PM	#24 (permalink)
Raizon Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NW Posts: 97 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	I wonder how many people would actually buy the authentic Amuse kit if no replica exist in this world. I can't imagine it being a whole lot more then they have sold now. I bet most people would never even consider getting a body kit if they had to spend $6k+ on any authentic kit so even if replicas doesn't exist, JDM wouldn't necessarily be getting that much more orders on their kit. Buy a replica wheel and they will eventually find out how bad they are versus the authentic wheel. But when replica kits are getting same or better fitments than the authentic kit, then its even harder to justify spending more on the real kit. Like most people said, pricing needs to be more reasonable in this economy or its too hard for most people to justify spending that much money on a kit. __________________ Password:JDM \| Omni X \| Swift-R \| Fast Intentions \| EVO-R \| UAM \| Pioneer \| 15% Tint \| V1 Last edited by Raizon; 07-22-2011 at 10:20 PM.

07-23-2011, 01:41 AM	#30 (permalink)
hdskull Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 680 Drives: '10 Black 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 17	The American dollar isn't really worth anything, otherwise, the JDM parts would be more affordable. The standard of living is higher over there. __________________ ^ Kenwood DDX616 \| Polk DB6501 \| Llumar 23% tint \| STi-R Clear Lens SSR Type-F \| F.I. 18" CF \| Stillen Gen 3 \| KW V3

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