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Bster 06-15-2009 10:48 PM

Pearl White seems to be a bird poo magnet as well! I had to clean off a massive load this morning...

travisjb 06-15-2009 11:08 PM

I use bug & tar solution and a 'powerbursh' with electric drill on low speed... works great for track tire turds too

SpawnAeroJohn 06-15-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cwj370 (Post 91896)
A video of that would be great. Will this be the way to remove small but deep scratches? For example, if you painted the place with touch up paint and sanded the extra away.

Probably yes, I actually have never filled in with touch up and sanded away, but Ill try to do that this week on a test panel at the shop and then if successful then Ill tutorialize that.

cwj370 06-16-2009 08:12 AM

That would be great! Keep us posted, this is something I really want to see.

NXTAZEE 06-16-2009 12:51 PM

Hey guy's please "do not" try to wet sand your cars. I don't care if a video gets posted or not, don't do it. I've been doing this for many years and I don't want to see anyone ruin their paint. Wet sanding should only be done by a pro or someone with the experience. Further more wet sanding is not needed to remove scratches in paint. Anyone who wet sands paint to remove scratches is an idiot. If a scratch is that deep you think it needs wet sanding it's not coming out. As a rule of thumb if you can feel the scratch with your finger nail it will not come out safely. After digitally measuring the paint to make sure there is enough clear to compound or even polish, you should never take off more than .5 mills of paint or you could see premature paint failure. If any of you have any question on proper paint care please feel free to ask me. As a new Z owner, or soon to be, I don't want you to do anything that might jeopardize your paint.

Back to the original poster, bird dropping are very acidic but will not do that much harm in that little time. A simple polish at best will fix it. Keep your cars regularly waxed or sealed and bird droppings will, for the most part, wipe right off with a microfiber rag with some quick detail spray.

Modshack 06-16-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by axio (Post 65283)
Please keep us informed about what the cause of this is...

Bad bird diet...

iceman21_23 06-16-2009 01:34 PM

the Z's clear coat sucks just keep her waxed and you should be fine

kannibul 06-16-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 63399)
They'll probably tell you that you should have ordered their ValuGard bull$hit for $800.

My dealer wanted me to get my Z "Simonized" - I did a search on google for it, turned up Billy Mays doing commercials, for $600.

That, and they said they wouldn't claybar the car beforehand.

I'd rather spend $100-$200 and have it pro-detailed in/out and have it look like a mirror when it's done. I figure on the 5yr "warranty" with the Simonize product for "natural damage", I'll break even, but have a better looking car.

Maybe I'll do it later...maybe not. I figure whatever that junk is, the detailer will do the same thing with his paint sealant...

Rps13.jw 07-18-2009 11:14 PM

Hey I had the same problem. Try using Turtle Wax Bug and Tar Remover. Turtle Wax - Bug & Tar Remover

Markar97 10-03-2009 08:25 AM

I live in eastern VA and can tell you that I have been fighting bird crap paint damage since getting the car in April (mine is red). It doesn't matter if you have a good coat of wax (I use NXT) after a complete clay bar and polish with Meguires Ultimate Compound. On a cool day just last week, got targeted by a seagull on the *** end and came home cleaned it off with soap and water. Figured that would do it....no luck. Got the NXT out....still no luck....got the Ultimate Compound which has been the only thing that seems to work after about 5 min of polishing.

In comparison, in May we received our new BMW 3 that we ordered, and got it the day after it was delievered to the dealer. After the first week we had a similar problem with the paint due to a bird crap, but since then it seems as if the clear coat has hardened and bird crap doesn't bother the finish on the BMW anymore...

I don't get why we are all having problems with what appears to be soft clearcoat.

Does it make sense to have a body shop shoot a high quality coat of clearcoat over the whole car to help remedy this situation?

I love this car and have waited many years to be able to buy this bad *** car, but so far my only complaint is the poor paint finish and toughness of it.

I will continue to use the Ultimate Compound and NXT, but just doesn't seem right.:shakes head:

kenchan 10-03-2009 08:32 AM

Try a stonger polymer like Griot's Paint Sealant and keep it maintained with Prima Hydro.

Btw, not sure the grit # on that compound you are using but be careful you don't burn through the clear.

When etched I use ScratchX and a kiwi shoe polish applicator pad (has a red handle). Its a firm foam so keeps the product at the top and works great for spot applications.

if that's not enough I pull out my smaller random orbital (3") and use the same ScratchX.

Markar97 10-03-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 220921)
Try a stonger polymer like Griot's Paint Sealant and keep it maintained with Prima Hydro.

Btw, not sure the grit # on that compound you are using but be careful you don't burn through the clear.

When etched I use ScratchX and a kiwi shoe polish applicator pad (has a red handle). Its a firm foam so keeps the product at the top and works great for spot applications.

if that's not enough I pull out my smaller random orbital (3") and use the same ScratchX.

Thanks will give it a try.

The Ultimate Compound is a non abrasive and i believe less aggressive than the scratch x.

Have you had any bird crap on yours? It is absolutely amazing how fast the crap acts on the finish....it is something i have never seen before and i have owned about 18 different cars, old and new.

MYZ34 10-03-2009 09:20 AM

this is why i was considering the paint protection that can be applied eg Ming, X pack etc, i just dont want the paint to stuff up on the Z,

i had the paint protection applied to my 09 rx8 and had now troubles and did'nt have to wax it monthly....

kenchan 10-03-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Markar97 (Post 220925)
Thanks will give it a try.

The Ultimate Compound is a non abrasive and i believe less aggressive than the scratch x.

Have you had any bird crap on yours? It is absolutely amazing how fast the crap acts on the finish....it is something i have never seen before and i have owned about 18 different cars, old and new.

when i bought my car there was one area where i suspect bird crap etched
the surface of the paint while it was sitting at the dealer's lot.

i was able to get it off using a mild polish (Griot's Polish3) and my 6" random orbital. on my hobby cars i use Griot's system and on my dd's i use Prima.

bird crap etching rate depends on wat the bird ate. i recommend you
remove birdcrap just as soon as you can... 1-2days can be enough to etch
through the clear. sometimes it can take more like a week depending on
how acidic the crap was.

there are two things i hate as a car guy...

birds and bicycle riders (who do not yield to traffic). :shakes head:

FuszNissan 10-03-2009 10:14 AM

Go buy simioniz. It will help protect your paint

Zerafian 10-03-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TRU370Z (Post 63586)
That's one thing i like about Guam, the brown tree snakes have taken over the island and have almos completely wiped out the bird population here. I can park under any tree without worries lol!

until a tree snake lands on your car while your getting into it

NXTAZEE 10-03-2009 03:37 PM

I recommend you spend some time on autopia.com, there are a couple others that are good as well, if you truly care about your car. Be very careful of the advice on car care from sites other than the ones mentioned. People here have good intentions but not necessarily the experience with paint care.

simota1 10-03-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 221134)
until a tree snake lands on your car while your getting into it

that wont happen.... ive lived here my whole life... and ive only seen like 3 snakes and im 22..... plus snakes dont fly....... haha :tup:

M.J. 10-03-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 221194)
that wont happen.... ive lived here my whole life... and ive only seen like 3 snakes and im 22..... plus snakes dont fly....... haha :tup:

Funny you should say that. I'd only seen 3 snakes in all my time on Guam too. Maybe because we live in Dededo?! :tiphat:

simota1 10-03-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by M.J. (Post 221208)
Funny you should say that. I'd only seen 3 snakes in all my time on Guam too. Maybe because we live in Dededo?! :tiphat:

haha maybe man... i dont know why some people think this island is like crawling with them like snake island or something haha....

Dwight Frye 10-03-2009 07:10 PM

I got bird crap on my 370Z right after I bought it and it did stain the clear coat. Either there was no wax at all on the car or the dealer used some junk wax. I was able to buff out the stain pretty easily with some Zaino Z5. Shortly thereafter I did the complete Zaino treatment and I now have 4 coats of Z2/ZFX on the car. I too keep a small spritzer-type bottle of quick detailer in my car with a small micro fiber towel. I got bird bombed again and it wiped right off with a few sprays of QD to soften it up first, and left no stain or etching.
Keep a good coat of your choice of a wax or sealer on the car, and keep an small emergency bottle of QD and a towel in your car so you can get it off the paint as soon as possible and you should be OK.

kenchan 10-03-2009 08:06 PM

+1 and some disposable gloves and a ziplock just incase you can't wash your hands and nowhere to throw out the towel and gloves.

GingaBreadMan 10-03-2009 09:50 PM

As soon as I purchased my 370 I took it to a hand car wash. As the guys were drying it I started noticing black marks on the silver paint. Everything was sticking to the car. Apparently the dealer didn't bother waxing the car. Actually when I picked up the car from the dealer I noticed black marks and had the salesman remove them with some of their own wax. After these 2 events I worked overtime to put wax on the car. In a weeks time after the purchase I put on 5 coats of wax. Since I bought the car at the end of June I have applied 30 coats of wax. And yes I have been keeping count. Wax and car cover are mandatory with these cars. 2morrow I will put on another 2 coats. I advise all of you to do it before it gets too cold.

Trips 10-04-2009 02:40 AM

I've been fortunate so far, no bird strikes yet.

Markar97 10-04-2009 08:16 AM

autopia.com is some kind of Dental Products site....what is the full address, because it looks like there are a number of orgs, etc.

NXTAZEE 10-04-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markar97 (Post 221704)
autopia.com is some kind of Dental Products site....what is the full address, because it looks like there are a number of orgs, etc.

Sorry, type autopia.org in a google search and it's the first hit that comes up. Go to the "how to" at the top of the page. That's a good place to start.

Trips 10-04-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markar97 (Post 221704)
autopia.com is some kind of Dental Products site....what is the full address, because it looks like there are a number of orgs, etc.

try this autopia link!
Detailing Car Clay Bar - Auto Clay Bar for Car Paint Contamination

kenchan 10-04-2009 03:39 PM

i found that the popular Meguiar's blue claybar is too firm for my Z's finish.
it almost looked like i lightly wetsanded the clear. there are aggressive clays
that do this intentionally, but i wasn't expecting it from their softer blue.

i have a random orbital so polished it all out so no issue, but still kinda surprised.

im going back to using my Griot's clay (which is super soft like mud) since my Z is
only driven on the weekends on nice days and rarely gets any contaminants stuck
on the finish.


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