Lets see your aftermarket seats!

synolimit · 12-10-2013, 09:34 AM

Anyone have close up pics of solid brackets? Side or bottom. Need ideas how to fab.

sig11 · 12-10-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Anyone have close up pics of solid brackets? Side or bottom. Need ideas how to fab.

If it warms up enough to get the race car out of the garage and the 370 in I'll snap some pictures of my custom mount. It's a chopped up Planted base leveled with steel... There are a few pics of it mounted in my build thread (maybe in here too if you look back a ways) I'm 6'5" ~200lbs and all legs so I'm as far back and low as possible.

winnre · 12-10-2013, 10:22 AM

If anyone in southern CA has Recaro seats or better I'd love to see them. I worry that I'd be giving up too much comfort.

wstar · 01-09-2014, 06:07 PM

^ What he said. In a stock safety setup, if you roll over and the roof caves in, the system is designed to let your body fall out of the way (towards the inside). When you're strapped into a harness system, you're stuck straight up. That can turn a bad rollover accident into a fatal one, as the harnesses hold your spine in place for the roof to cave in and crush it. You really should run a roll cage (even just a 4-point) with any real harness system. Harness-bar setups are dangerous in a roll.

wstar · 01-09-2014, 09:11 PM

With a 3-point belt (no strap over the inside shoulder), you'll still fall in (as opposed to crushing your spine straight down from the top), regardless of the seat. It might not be as pretty in a bucket (but then again if it's a recliner bucket they're not very strong anyways - whereas maybe a fixed aluminum bucket with big walls is more an issue). I've never heard of a factory car that comes with harnesses and no cage, but I suppose they could exist somewhere.

synolimit · 01-09-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

With a 3-point belt (no strap over the inside shoulder), you'll still fall in (as opposed to crushing your spine straight down from the top), regardless of the seat. It might not be as pretty in a bucket (but then again if it's a recliner bucket they're not very strong anyways - whereas maybe a fixed aluminum bucket with big walls is more an issue). I've never heard of a factory car that comes with harnesses and no cage, but I suppose they could exist somewhere.

Hmm, I just googled gt3 and they only have a rear cage, 3pt, and reclining bucket racing seats. I know I've seen 5pt but it must have been aftermarket.

CarbonFZ · 01-09-2014, 10:23 PM

Where do people mount there harnesses?

gomer_110 · 01-10-2014, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CarbonFZ

Where do people mount there harnesses?

A small handful of us have harness bars of some variety. Unfortunately from what I've read here recently, the vendors that sold them can't be reached/don't make them anymore. One such vendor was Robispec.

Wiggins3377 · 01-10-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

A small handful of us have harness bars of some variety. Unfortunately from what I've read here recently, the vendors that sold them can't be reached/don't make them anymore. One such vendor was Robispec.

The GT Spec 4 point rear strut/ b pillar cage was designed to be a harness bar as well and works perfectly with my Takata harnesses... ill just through that out there.

Hit up RavSpec if you're interested.

CarbonFZ · 01-10-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377

The GT Spec 4 point rear strut/ b pillar cage was designed to be a harness bar as well and works perfectly with my Takata harnesses... ill just through that out there.

Hit up RavSpec if you're interested.

i would but it wont fit my sub box howbad of an idea would it be to use the stock strut bar in back?

GaleForce · 01-10-2014, 11:19 AM

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i would but it wont fit my sub box howbad of an idea would it be to use the stock strut bar in back?

Very bad idea. It's a decorative cover over a metal brace. Get the Robispec bar at the minimum. I bought one of these, 370Z Harness Bar But, like others have said, the roll cage is the way to go.

Liquid_G · 01-13-2014, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonFZ

Where do people mount there harnesses?

I'm actually curious about this as well. I have the Amuse Type 1 harness bar with the Eyebolts but i'm not sure what people are doing to mount the harness on the floor?

wstar · 01-09-2014, 11:49 PM

To their cages!

CarbonFZ · 01-09-2014, 11:52 PM

Well yea haha but if we don't have cages?

synolimit · 01-10-2014, 12:37 AM

Then you don't mount one.

12-10-2013, 09:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3390	Anyone have close up pics of solid brackets? Side or bottom. Need ideas how to fab. __________________ 13 370z-

01-09-2014, 06:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	^ What he said. In a stock safety setup, if you roll over and the roof caves in, the system is designed to let your body fall out of the way (towards the inside). When you're strapped into a harness system, you're stuck straight up. That can turn a bad rollover accident into a fatal one, as the harnesses hold your spine in place for the roof to cave in and crush it. You really should run a roll cage (even just a 4-point) with any real harness system. Harness-bar setups are dangerous in a roll. ENT-Z likes this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

01-09-2014, 09:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	With a 3-point belt (no strap over the inside shoulder), you'll still fall in (as opposed to crushing your spine straight down from the top), regardless of the seat. It might not be as pretty in a bucket (but then again if it's a recliner bucket they're not very strong anyways - whereas maybe a fixed aluminum bucket with big walls is more an issue). I've never heard of a factory car that comes with harnesses and no cage, but I suppose they could exist somewhere. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

01-09-2014, 10:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
CarbonFZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sacramento Posts: 446 Drives: 2013 370Z 7AT PW Rep Power: 16	Where do people mount there harnesses? __________________ My Build Thread

01-09-2014, 11:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	To their cages! __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

12-10-2013, 10:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
winnre Track Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Close to Redlands, CA Posts: 534 Drives: '14 370Z Touring Spt Rep Power: 13	If anyone in southern CA has Recaro seats or better I'd love to see them. I worry that I'd be giving up too much comfort.

01-09-2014, 11:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
CarbonFZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sacramento Posts: 446 Drives: 2013 370Z 7AT PW Rep Power: 16	Well yea haha but if we don't have cages? __________________ My Build Thread

01-10-2014, 12:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3390	Then you don't mount one. __________________ 13 370z-

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