i did the altima tail light overlay back when i had an altima, it was a PITA, but if you do it right and you are patient it comes out fine.

you are basically taking a FLAT piece of vinyl and putting it over a curved/angular surface. You need to stretch/heat etc in order to get it to fit, of course there will be crinkles until its actually installedd. You just heat and stretch until you get it to it flat. I'm pretty sure vinyls/tail light overlays are a lot more annoying to put on than tint. window tint involves putting a flat piece of material on a more or less flat survace (windows only have a slight curvature). tail lights, fangs, valances etc have many curves and angles. Theres no such thing as a BAD vinyl, unless it like, rips when you try to put it on, but if it doesn't lay right, and there are other people out there getting them on perfectly, then its the isntallers error. i have bought vinyl's and overlays from other people than blu, and none of them gave you free vinyls if you messed up. They'd give you a discount, but not free.

The bends on the Altima are almost 80 degrees! But, my authorized installers can do them :).

Bat™

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...ys/alt4t2d.jpg

i got the overlays right on my first try on the Altima coupe, having never done them before and having no experience with vinyls or anything. so basically, whatever shop you all went to sucks.

Nice Jeff! There are people that have never done installs before, and have a knack for it! and vise versa. Its an aquired taste you can say ;).

Bat™

haha yea i'm actually planning on helping toxik out once he gets his fang overlays from you.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/e...n-dsc00668.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_miTiP-X9dzs/Sd...0/DSC_0023.jpg

Bat™

Would you be interested in becoming one of my authorized installers? Where exactly are you located?

Bat™

i'm on long island. i mean i'm not a shop, i'm just like, a guy that can install overlays pretty well, its not really something i would say i'd want to do for pay on a regular basis, its more just like helping out a friend kind of thing. I mean, if someone wanted to pay me to install overlays i guess i would, but it would really be more like installing here and there.

what do installers usually get paid to do these?

Quite a few of my installers work out of their garages. Many are customers of mine who've installed these for their cars and friends cars. Its a good suplimental income, even if you wanna do it part time. My installer down here in San Diego pulled in $400.00 on installs alone this weekend :). I have an installer in Long Island, but you can never have enough of them. PM me your contact info if you're interested. Tails run from 40-60 a pair for install depending on complexity.

Bat™

sounds good, sent you a PM

these were simple...only took me 20 min. just now...

Before:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6773/img0128td.jpg

After:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2574/img0133qx.jpg

Andy has a great product, many happy customers from Newcelica.org... good man he is!

i know this isn't related but Andy did you make these?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../IMG954176.jpg
i'm interested =)

When I started this thread it was in no way shape or form intended to insinuate that bat or his products are not up to par. I was just curious to see if anyone else has had trouble with their installers mainly because I took my car to a tint shop I had used 100 times before and they assured me it was no problem to wrap the tail lights... yet 10 minutes into it I knew they were full of s***. Bat gave me a discount on some vinyl to replace the overlays the shop messed up and hew as very quick about it. I told him about my problem on Sat afternoon and he is shipping the replacements out today. Can't do much better than that. Thanks Andy.

+1, can anyone chime in on these?