Veilside Bodykit
 

Hey everyone, my car will be with Veilside in 2 weeks for the production of the 3pc body kit (front, sides, rear). The designer asked me if I had any request or suggestions regarding the kit so he can forward that to the master designer to draw out. I wanted to get all your feedback regarding the design;

-what would you guys like to see on this kit... show some pictures if you can!
-what kits by Veilside do you not want to see on our cars
-What new additions or features would you like to see
I personally have had a Veilside kit for my 02 Celica and loved the design but I know that the body lines of the car are completely different.

Currently they are finishing up Bentley and Ferrari Kit and instead of the master designer going back to Japan, they will extend his stay here to work on the 370 design

Please let me know what you all want to see that way and any feedback.

Thanks!!

also the wide body kit is also an option... so feedback on that also

+1 for wide body! personally I really liked the 350 veilside kit, but it could definitely benefit from being toned down a little.

Your car really is going to be the Joan Rivers of this 370z forum! modifications all over the place!

with that being said...+1 for widebody kit!

haha... i know huh...

So I am leaning towards presenting them the Fortune kit for the 370z... here are a couple pictures of there past fortune kit.

Just please tell them to not make it anything like the 350Z Version 3 kit.

Here's a suggestion... make it functional!

Let them make their wild kit if they want. But, at least make a 'simple' functional lip kit that mimics the stock lower lines! Maybe a spoiler that is a tad larger than the stock one, but no where near the Nismo one...

That is all this car needs!!!

That would require some very serious wind tunnel testing, and all the test and measure that accompany these tests!

If they can make a front lip spoiler like the V1 model for the 350Z, they will have a winner. Nothing crazy, just subtle that flows well with the front bumper.

I would buy a lip that looks simple and doesn't stick out too much like the nismo lip, but i will take the veilside lip too. The body kits from veilside are pretty extreme and grotesque.

I have a great suggestion - tell them to take a page from Zele's book - except turn it into their own.

Also, I dont oppose kits but it would be nice to see someone come out with something smooth like Zele and still stay within the stock height of the original bumper so we can drop it without worrying about it being to low to the ground.

So lets sum it up...

Stock height dimension, and something clean and functinal looking like Zele's LOL

That second pic.... That is EXACTLY what I was thinking...

+1, the Zele's kit is the best looking so far, do something similar, clean lines that flow with the body.

IMO, Zele is too much... I am not looking for all that..

I would prefer something that would get rid of the front bumper its just ugly! keeping with the zele style of smooth would be nice. En-longating the front bumper Slightly would look nice too.

To much ? LOL then you dont know Veilside I take it.

Thats exactly why I ask to go something along the lines of Zele because Veilside is usually much more over-the-top.

Again, I'm not asking for a clone...But I would like to see a kit that isnt lower than the dimensions of the stock bumpers. You can still create something spectacular within the limits of that size. Thats, another reason why I like the Zele, because it doesnt appear they created a bumper that drags across the floor on a stock suspension setup, LOL.

You know what I think might look stealth/awsome would be if they can some how create a front bumper for the Z based on the Prototype of the GTR - with carbon fiber vents like the proto has.

http://www.autocult.com.au/img/galle...naGhost436.jpg

thanks for all the ideas guy.. i am forwarding this all to the designer.. so any other feedback would be very useful for anyone looking for a kit in the future

I know Veilside all too well... And typically do not like their styling... Like that horrible RX7 for FF3...

Just hoping a well known company will give us something that will simply compliment the current Z's lines, not detract and cause utter confusion; or say LOOK AT ME!!! This Z does not need that.

And.. I like the fangs...

How about air vents that slash down from the outside bottom front lights into the bumper to make a z shape?

Also how about an angled Ferrari F40 type spoiler that forms from the huge rear arches and over the rear lights?

keep the feedback coming!.. heres an email responding to some of the feedback..

Hi Marco,

Thanks for giving us the feedback from the forums, as well as your personal opinions. As you can see for yourself, the consensus amongst the many is NEVER along a single line. This is what makes building parts very difficult and challenging, as well as fun to say the least. But we always understood that we can never make anything to please every single person. If we make something something along a widebody then someone complains it's too expensive, if we make a lip then it's too simple, too low, etc, etc, etc.

But, this is what we do and we will do our best to make something that the market demands. Since we are designing in-house now, we have quite a bit of say in what we make. You will be welcome to come to the shop while we get down and dirty shaping the parts. We'll talk more when the time comes, but please do keep spreading the word and get more feedback. It's always great to have direct feedback in regards to what we are making so the market can at least expect something along what they wish. Thanks again.

at least for this kit I will have the opportunity to use everyone's feedback and apply to the production that way everyone will be pleased

update.... i will be helping veilside create a lip kit for the 370 at the end of the month!

Cool i hope the lip doesn't stick out too much maybe 2 inches at the most and hopefully the lip is thin and not thick. I think the jnext is too thick when viewed from the side.

DJ I would love to see a new front bumper that would incorporate the shape of the new Nismo Design but be more subtle on the sides. Low simple and flowing side skirts are a must similar to Zele's design. I think with the extra pronounced bulge for the rear wheel arches a veilside version 3 style rear bumper is a good start. Also a rear wing that is based off of the sport kit wing but is extended like the mines would be sweet with the center higher and the sides even or slightly lower than the oem.

I will do some PS Chops for you to hand over to the designers :D

Mike

+1 for a simple and elegant lip kit that follows the lines of the car

great ideas.. keep em comiN! =D

http://fc99.deviantart.com/fs38/f/20...rianmolina.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...bymofo_KIT.jpg

The intake on that second shot (white) looks like some sort of large mouth fish, lips and all. Not digging it.

Staying tuned DJcuetip!

That first photoshot is the teetz. No V3 veilside please. Keep it Classy San diego :D

Chris

This front end:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6650/picture2y.png

...is epic, I would love to see something like this. Like others, I am not a huge fan of big body kits, and good lord the 370 is wide enough to begin with, a widebody kit will just cheapen it I fear.

I would like to see them make something unique to Veilside, but also keep everything very OEM looking at the same time. I want to look at it and say "ah yes, this is how it should have come from the factory".

This is my favorite lip for the 350 for reference as well, if the lip could incorporate a center section that goes up over or replaces the fangs I would love it.


Mike Lee's car:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3371/picture4yro.png

I like CTZN's second pic. That is the perfect lip spoiler and if the 370Z had something like that (in carbon fiber) I would decide on it and stick with it.

I'm not sure how well lip kits honestly work on a car like the 370Z. So far, every single lip kit I've seen for this car just comes out being over the top and I think it has something to do with the fangs on the stock bumper as well as the curvatures along the sides of the bumper. IMO it'd be best to just make a full replacement (something clean like Zele).

this is a response from veilside:
I’ve looked at your favorite lip and I must it doesn’t make any sense to me. The corner sections show a dip, which doesn’t seem to match any other line of the car.



I’m not sure what can be done to remove the “fangs” as it’s part of the factory molded bumper. Is the painted section of the “fangs” connected/molded together to the black grill section?



Best regards,

First off, I didn't design the lip, so I can't speak to the purpose of it's lines or shape.

Second, and plainly so, that pic was meant to be an example of the direction I would like to see. I did not imply nor ask for it to be copied. The fact is, it is a simple, clean and beautiful lip solution, easy as that. I would like to see a similarly styled option for the 370.

Third, I am not a product designer or engineer, so I would not even listen to my advice if I gave it. Hence, my posting an example of what I felt worked on the 350Z.

I do happen to be a professional designer, and in my area, the tricky part and the most satisfying part, is figuring out a way to communicate in a beautiful manner, around any obstacle that may present itself. That is the challenge of being a successful designer. In this case, the goal is to find an elegant, simple way to incorporate the desired look and feel into the existing design of the car. This is what makes Veilside, well, Veilside, you have been a leader in the industry for a long time and I would expect nothing less than the highest standard of quality and options.

To come on here and criticize an example I pointed out, is counterproductive at best, and offensive at worst. We, as a community, and myself personally are thrilled to be a part of the process of building a new product, but it has to come to a point where Veilside must take ownership of this and provide us with the level of quality we all have come to expect from you in a product and a company.

Hey, relax ctzn - as a designer you know that discussion with the client is a vital and important part of the process...

1. Listen to the client

2. Discuss with the client

3. Agree with the client

4. Go away and design exactly what you wanted to do in the first place (ignoring the client)

5. Return to the client and convince them it's what they wanted.

I didn't mean to come off as an *** or disrespectful, again I am thrilled that Veilside is involving the community. I was merely suggesting that criticizing other designs might not be the most productive way to results.

I hear you on the process, I won't get into my job details nor delve into my design philosophy. I guess the point I was trying to make is that we are not the designers, we are the clients.

I like the open forum for discussing design direction and I am happy to be a part of that. But I don't want to hear why things won't work, I want to discuss solutions to what we would like to see. I am sure there are plenty of great ideas out there within the community so I hope people speak up, and I hope Veilside can take the feedback and do what they have always done so well, and make a killer product.

I will keep digging up some examples and try to relate their features to the 370 and how I would like to see it. I look forward to the results.

ctzn your feedback and suggestions are highly appreciated.. i will try my best to take all feedback from our community to help build something that we will all enjoy

I honesty look forward to it. I am happy to throw some things together as well to give a clearer picture of our goals as well, but really I am excited about this project for you.