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molamann 02-25-2009 12:35 AM

Minor gripe...
 
Why the hell doesn't the iPod connector charge the iPod? :icon08:

shumby 02-25-2009 01:22 AM

it will for older ipods. You need to buy an adapter to get it to charge. lots of places sell them including the apple store. There are rumers that 2010 will get an upgraded cable but there were rumors that the 09 G would too and it did not.

molamann 02-25-2009 06:33 AM

So it's as easy just buying a new cable? Do all cars share the same type of cable?

BanningZ 02-25-2009 06:38 AM

When you say older ipods, do you know of a list that will tell you which ones? I have an 80GB "classic" video one.
Shumby you should post a link for the cable adapters that are known to work for charging.

molamann 02-25-2009 06:48 AM

After a minute of googling, I came across this:

Ridax first company to overprice iPhone 3G charging adapter - Engadget

I own the latest Nano and I'm assuming it applies to nano also?

AK370Z 03-09-2009 08:09 PM

molaman, I was browsing around TSB from Nissan and stumbled upon this one.

Quote:

iPodŽ Charging with Nissan Interface System for iPodŽ

APPLIED VEHICLES:
All Nissan with Nissan Interface System for iPodŽ(factory installed or accessory installed)

SERVICE INFORMATION

Please be aware that a recent design change was made by Apple to their iPodŽ and iPhoneŽ products. As a result of this change, some customers may report that their iPodŽ/iPhoneŽ device does not charge while connected to the Nissan Interface System for iPodŽ.

The Nissan Interface System for iPodŽ was designed to charge the customer’s iPodŽ with a 12-volt power source, which has been supported by all Apple iPodŽ and iPhoneŽ devices until the latest generation. After Apple’s design change, these new devices only support charging via a 5-volt source, which the Interface System does not provide. Customers may see error messages on the device screen, or notice that the device’s battery discharges while connected to their vehicle’s interface system. Please note that while charging may not be supported, playback and control through the vehicle’s audio system are still available.

Compatible Devices:


All Apple devices that support charging via a FireWireŽ connection are compatible with the Nissan Interface System for iPodŽ. These include:

• iPodŽ Classic – 1st through 6th generation
• iPodŽ Mini – 1st through 2nd generation
• iPodŽ Nano – 1st through 3rd generation
• iPodŽ Touch – 1st generation
• iPhoneŽ - 1st generation

NOTE: Refer to the vehicle Owner’s Manual for further Nissan Interface System
Information.

Non-compatible devices (as of 12/8/2008):

• iPhoneŽ 3G
• iPodŽ Nano – 4th generation
• iPodŽ Touch – 2nd generation

Nissan Bulletins are intended for use by qualified technicians, not 'do-it-yourselfers'. Qualified technicians are
properly trained individuals who have the equipment, tools, safety instruction, and know-how to do a job
properly and safely. NOTE: If you believe that a described condition may apply to a particular vehicle, DO
NOT assume that it does. See your Nissan dealer to determine if this applies to your vehicle.

Nissan is working closely with Apple to ensure full compatibility with our future Interface Systems, but as Apple’s change was made without adequate notification to Nissan, at this time there is no plan to modify the current Interface Systems for the 2009 model year.

Please make customers aware that there are products available in the aftermarket designed to reduce the 12V power source to 5V and should enable their device to charge while connected to their vehicle. A few examples are provided below, however, Nissan expects these types of aftermarket solutions to become even more widely available considering that Apple’s change has impacted the charging ability of many automotive OEM’s iPodŽ integration systems.

Aftermarket Solutions:
PLEASE NOTE: Nissan has not tested any of these aftermarket solutions and makes no endorsement, warranty, or guarantee of performance or compatibility for any specific third party accessory. These devices are advertised by their respective manufacturers to resolve 12V to 5V charging issues, but have not been designed for or tested with Nissan vehicles.

• Scosche Passport - Scosche Industries : Car Audio Accessories, iPod Accessories, Bluetooth Wireless Accessories, EFX Hyperformance, Accumat Sound Damping, Soundkase audio backpacks, CD and DVD storage systems at Scosche.com

• CableJive Charge Converter - CableJive: Charge Converter for iPhone and iPod

• Ridax Charge Converter - Redirecting you to Ridax programutveckling

Customer Service:
For further questions and comments, customers may always feel free to contact Nissan Consumer Affairs at 1-800-647-7261.
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BMW Killa 03-09-2009 08:15 PM

Good to know, thanks guys

k.alexander 03-09-2009 10:11 PM

I had a similar problem on my last car. The TSB above is 100% correct.
The Ridax unit will work. I'm pretty up to speed on all similar iPhone accessories, and from what I know, there is another one out there, just like the Ridax, and approx. the same cost +/- a few bucks.

spiderman 03-10-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 41516)
molaman, I was browsing around TSB from Nissan and stumbled upon this one.

I bought a Zen versus an iPod a year or so ago. Better sound and FM. Since the hookup is basically the same, is it safe to say the Zen by CreativeLabs will work?

FoxMan 03-12-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderman (Post 41984)
I bought a Zen versus an iPod a year or so ago. Better sound and FM. Since the hookup is basically the same, is it safe to say the Zen by CreativeLabs will work?

I can't say with absolute certainty, but I highly doubt it will work. They run different OSes and I don't think there is a standardized control set across MP3 players.

molamann 03-13-2009 09:05 PM

Just a heads up, DO NOT buy the Scosche adapter! I don't know the technical term but there's like a constant LOUD "BBEEEEEEE" and you can't mask it unless you turn your volume ALL THE WAY UP. I'm gonna try and get a refund or a replacement if I got a defective one.

BanningZ 03-15-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderman (Post 41984)
I bought a Zen versus an iPod a year or so ago. Better sound and FM.

Better sound? How do you know? I've got great hearing but wow thats impressive. Never had a problem with the ipod.


Quote:

Originally Posted by molamann (Post 43453)
Just a heads up, DO NOT buy the Scosche adapter! I don't know the technical term but there's like a constant LOUD "BBEEEEEEE" and you can't mask it unless you turn your volume ALL THE WAY UP. I'm gonna try and get a refund or a replacement if I got a defective one.

Thanks for the heads up. Let us know if it just happened to be a defective one. Lemons are always souring.

theDreamer 03-15-2009 12:21 PM

The difference in sound from an iPod v. Zune comes down to the internal parts. The DAC in the Zune is better, they have both been torn down and proven, but unless you carry around a portable amp with nice headphones you will never notice the difference.

Now in a car, with a good set of speakers, amp, etc., you might tell a difference but the sound stage would vary from car to car. Also it is relative to how your music is encoded, MP3 v. WMA v. FLAC v. AAC.


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