Cloth seats provide better support than Leather?
 

I know the cloth seats are grippier than the leather/suede, but they also seem to have slightly better support. The cloth felt more snug when I sat in them. I don't know if it's just my imagination, but the cloth seems to be sunken in a tad bit more. Look at the seat base in these pictures, doesn't the cloth look like it has just a bit more thigh support?

Cloth:

http://press.nissan-global.com/COMMO...OW/Z34_041.jpg

Leather:

http://press.nissan-global.com/COMMO...OW/Z34_039.jpg

Aren't the seats identical, apart from the trim?

I think the cloth easily stretches and conforms more to the actual formed shape of the foam underneath, whereas the leather tends to deform the foam and flatten it due to leather having so much more strength, and less stretch.

I bet they are the same base seat. The reason they look slightly different is because the cloth stretches and gives more than the leather will. Looks like I took too long to type!

The cloth fabric stretching a bit more makes sense. I thought the seats should be identical too. But the leather also has motors and heating elements inside, so I wonder if not having these in the cloth allows for the cushion to be lower set.

cloth more comfortable in my opinion, and if u do not own a garage, then stick with the cloth

Lumbar support comes is offered with the Touring package/driver side only. The cloth seats are suppose to have some kind of anti-slide material to help keep you in place.

I'll never understand why they put slick leather in sports cars. Tracking a car with leather is downright difficult. You slide out of the seat in every turn. My preference is microfiber or "alcanterra." It stick to your clothes really well. Only a handful of cars have it. New Eclipse, STI, and IS300 come to mind.

you are correct...clothe seats gives that sinking feeling...i like clothe better because it won't burn ur bottoms in the summer and won't freeze in the winter...lol
and you dont have to worry about it cracking b/c of uv rays and what nots....
also, you got clean it and seal it. with clothe, just spray that stuff that repels water.
I've seen it, it's quite cool.....i sprayed it on paper towel and it didnt get wet..awesome

also, the leather seats will most likely bubble, as in you'll see a big bubbling effects on the bottom cushions........happened to most G37's and i'm sure it will happen again
the only fix it to make the leather tighter, which would mean a harder and less sinkable seat.

I like cloth because leather is hot ... however, I don't like the static cling seems to build up on cloth seats. But, nothing a little static guard spray once in a while can't fix.

^^ yup, clothe seats FTW

i really don't like the leather anymore, like you can't get a good sitting position...you know

I like the clothe, it's like sitting on a pillow.............who wouldn't like to sit on a pillow of feathers with 332 Hp...hahha


not saying there feather in there...ha

Well, actually, I've had leather seats in just about every car I've had. There's treatments for the leather just like cloth. If you don't take care of your interior, be it cloth or leather, it will get torn, stained, scratched, etc. But taking care of your car is key.

"You treat yourself only as good as you treat your car."

We use leather treatments on our seats that prevent them from stretching, cracking, and stops those wrinkles as well. Our seats all look new (except for my dad's car. He never takes care of his cars).

Leather is a must for me. Some of my friends aren't the "cleanest" of people. In the summer when they sweat, they stink! Last thing I'd want is them leaving that in the cloth. Leather is far easier to clean. I generally don't let them sit in my car anyway, but it DOES have to happen at some point. Usually I'll force them to drive their car and I'll sit passenger so that they don't get in my car. I let them know why and they usually understand. One of them gets pissed at me, but hey, I'm not the stinky moron that doesn't shower enough. LOL

That would be nice, a little goose down. lol

yea, very true

but that still doesn't solve the Nissan Bubbling Seat Effect feature that most G's had....

Haven't seen the "bubbling" effect you're talking about.

^ me either. Pic?

I imagine what you're talking about is that the leather that you're actually sitting on actually bubbles up... But the thing is that the leather seats aren't using leather where you sit. Only around the buckets, top of the back-support, and bolsters.

I'll search for pics, hold on a second



EDIT:

here some from the G37's

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6226/seathh1.jpg

http://myg37.com/forums/attachments/...s-p1000340.jpg

http://myg37.com/forums/attachments/...s-p1000345.jpg

http://myg37.com/forums/attachments/...s-p1000342.jpg

http://myg37.com/forums/attachments/...s-img_1408.jpg

I have the leather variant. This is the first time I've had leather seats in a sports car. I had STI's before which had the microsuede... Honestly, I feel like these seats hold me in a LOT better than the STI ones did...they aren't all that bad for stock leather seats...If I could get alcantara ones I would though...same with the steering wheel.

Yeah I wish I had cloth kind of now because alot of times my seats nudge me to the side :mad:

ohhh, that is a pretty good bulge in that leather. never seen that before, but i'd be a little mad about it.

^ You talking about the front of the seat where the back of your thigh rests?

^ i was looking at the pics nogood posted above

it's annoying isnt it??

Yeah me too. If its what I think you are talking about it REALLY is annoying. Digs into the back of ur leg :mad:

yea, this is what i was talking bout the whole time

I got the pics to illustrate it better

AH! Yeah, my M35 has something similar. However, the leather in the 370z shouldn't do that. Completely different seats and completely different materials.

I've had leather in some of my other cars of German make, never had a bubble like the one on the G37 shown.

But the Z has psuedo-suede on the seating areas, the leather is only on the side bolster areas and head rest. I don't think the suede would bubble up.

^^^ Exactly.

^^ well, that's good.........I guess Nissan learned something with those G seats then....
and most dealers won't do anything to fix it, they said it's normal b/c it's leather.......
I think that's BS because it shouldnt bubble that much in some of the the pics

I'm glad that they didn't do leather in the center on the touring seats, that bubbling effect would really piss me off. I personally didn't want to get the leather, but I really wanted the integrated factory nav, the only way to get that was to go with the touring model. I'm pretty happy with the finish of the seats, my only complaint is that the side bolsters on the backs are not adjustable. They start to dig in on your lats on a longer drive. They should have made them a little wider IMO. I feel like I'm not sitting in the seat, but being pushed forward from the sides. I'm 5-10" 182lbs athletic build. I will keep them for now, my body is starting to get used to them, but I love to drive and can see where they would be a problem for some longer road trips 200+ miles.

Actually, most expensive performance cars and exotics do the same. They have suede seating with leather bolsters and buckets. Lamborghini and Ferrari do this as well.

I love the leather/faux-suede seats.

so what happened with the G37's then.....lol......they forgot about it... :confused:

Sorry about your leather, that just shouldn't happen in any car - shame on Nissan.

My thought about why no suede on the G is because it's positioned as more of a luxury car than performance. In Japan the GT-R and Z are both known as Nissan's top performance cars. Both cars have the suede inserts. The G/Skyline is a sports coupe/sedan, hence full leather.

Well, although the G is a sporty luxury car, I doubt that most people that buy a G (like my mom, no offense) would want suede on the seats. My mom would feel insulted for some reason. I can imagine that Nissan figured that sports cars should have the stickier performance seats, and the luxury cars should get the slicker full leather cushy seats.

It makes sense to me. (Remember, they are purpose built cars)

you know with the leather seats, the middle part is suede? i'm guessing they used suede so you don't go sliding around.

^^^ Exactly the reason Lambo and Ferrari do it.

with that being said then, i guess the cloth and leather seats are somewhat the same. just cleaning them is different.

Meh... You can't put seat warmers in cloth.

Also, leather is a stronger material and IMO more refined.