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RCZ 05-07-2010 02:57 PM
So are we going to have Hood Damper V2.0 coming out soon Ryan? With everything working properly?

Trips 05-07-2010 03:00 PM
I'm still on the fence.

kenchan 05-07-2010 03:01 PM
wasssssssssabi- ouch! :icon14: your thumb and your damper kit ball joints...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 528767)
Well yeah all fine and dandy but you would be left with a drilled and cut engine bay :roflpuke2:

you will be left with useless set of balls... well, quite literally (ball joints). :icon17:


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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 528806)
Mcmaster's is super fast with anything you might need!

yes, they were SUPER quick. :tup: i need to checkout their site in more detail when i have time. soooo many cool things i want to get and just stock up. :yum:

Prosport Gauges 05-07-2010 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 528775)
Alright here's the install/review for the CF rear dampeners!

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...52795183_0.jpg
Packaging. The instructions were... uhhhh. Yeah, not really instructive, but honestly, it's a dampeners swap, not an engine drop.

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...52796001_0.jpg
Stock dampener. The bottom joint seemed to fit just fine so I didn't want to mess with the brackets and whatnot.

Be careful removing the stock dampeners; they're a real bitch the first time around.
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...52815099_0.jpg
(The picture is after I cleaned it all up; it wouldn't stop bleeding for the longest)

I was able to put on the bottom joint and slip on the locking mechanism, but the top CF cup joint wouldn't lock into the stock ball joint. So I took off the stock ball (a bitch, as well), but the supplied ball joint didn't fit :(

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...52792685_0.jpg
As you can see there's a major size difference between the screws of the ball joints.

So right now I'm kinda stuck. I tried perhaps using the supplied bracket and screwing it down with the stock joint screw, but I couldn't position the bracket in any way that would fit. I think Ryan may have sent me a front set by accident, but in any case I have to write a paper for Monday, so I can't mess around with the dampener till next week.
should have used a flat head to take the stock pins out!

okay you need to install the top one first. run the damper along the hood when installing, makes it easier. then bring damper down towards the bottom ball joint. took us like 1 min on each damper :p

also the ball joints are the same. just takes a little force to push it on. try useing a rubber malet to pop it in.

btw, you have weird looking pants :p

Prosport Gauges 05-07-2010 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 528832)
So are we going to have Hood Damper V2.0 coming out soon Ryan? With everything working properly?
Well, if you guys really want to drill out they hole then yes i can provide this bracket. is this what everyone wants.

I could run a lower price also if you guys want to buy the bracket seprate.

Let me know what you guys want and you shall have!:bowrofl:

waaaasabi 05-07-2010 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_west06 (Post 528884)
should have used a flat head to take the stock pins out!

okay you need to install the top one first. run the damper along the hood when installing, makes it easier. then bring damper down towards the bottom ball joint. took us like 1 min on each damper :p

also the ball joints are the same. just takes a little force to push it on. try useing a rubber malet to pop it in.

btw, you have weird looking pants :p
Aha! I think another problem was that the cup joints were angled differently, thus I had to unscrew it quite a bit to get it to fit. But I finally got it to fit; thanks Ryan. Will update with pics on Monday. Also, why throw in all those other miscellaneous parts if they're not needed? It just throws people off haha.

Hey the ripped up jeans are cool (at least in my mind)! I'm bringing back style from the late 80s/early 90s.

Prosport Gauges 05-07-2010 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 528910)
Aha! I think another problem was that the cup joints were angled differently, thus I had to unscrew it quite a bit to get it to fit. But I finally got it to fit; thanks Ryan. Will update with pics on Monday. Also, why throw in all those other miscellaneous parts if they're not needed? It just throws people off haha.

Hey the ripped up jeans are cool (at least in my mind)! I'm bringing back style from the late 80s/early 90s.

haha... on the jeans.

:inoutroflpuke:

Marco_xyz 05-07-2010 05:45 PM
Can someone sell me one of their stock rear hatch ball joints??

Marco_xyz 05-07-2010 05:46 PM
Also, can we use the rear trunk hatch dampeners for full cf trunk hatches? If so I will take a set!

waaaasabi 05-07-2010 05:56 PM
Hey Marco, PM sent!

kenchan 05-07-2010 07:19 PM
Modshack- I got one side done and testing. It's great! :p

Did you use a spacer by any chance to raise the ball joint side a few mm on the tower? I ask because the damper housing is barely but surely rubbing the battery cover.

(Also dremeled out a little cutout for the shaft on the cradle part of the battery cover surround aft of the big foam cradle)

Modshack 05-07-2010 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 529105)
Modshack- I got one side done and testing. It's great! :p

Did you use a spacer by any chance to raise the ball joint side a few mm on the tower? I ask because the damper housing is barely but surely rubbing the battery cover.

(Also dremeled out a little cutout for the shaft on the cradle part of the battery cover surround aft of the big foam cradle)
Sounds like you got it figured out! I did dremel that plastic lip aft of the foam, and also cut a slit in the foam for the shaft to drop into without compressing it...

I didn't raise the ball (no evidence of rubbing the Bat. cover on mine) but found it necessary to unscrew the shaft, Put the little retainer clip in place with the end on the ball, then rescrew the shaft and pop it into the hood ball. Didn't use a clp there as it doesn't seem necessary and it makes it easier to snap the Cylinder off if necessary..You could always put a few washers under the triangle plate to raise if necessary....:tup:

http://images56.fotki.com/v525/photo...MG_2550-vi.jpg

Trips 05-07-2010 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 529119)
Sounds like you got it figured out! I did dremel that plastic lip aft of the foam, and also cut a slit in the foam for the shaft to drop into without compressing it...

I didn't raise the ball (no evidence of rubbing the Bat. cover on mine) but found it necessary to unscrew the shaft, Put the little retainer clip in place with the end on the ball, then rescrew the shaft and pop it into the hood ball. Didn't use a clp there as it doesn't seem necessary and it makes it easier to snap the Cylinder off if necessary..You could always put a few washers under the triangle plate to raise if necessary....:tup:

http://images56.fotki.com/v525/photo...MG_2550-vi.jpg
Hey Mod, Will this set up get in the way of the removal of the battery in the event of a Battery failure? kinda hard to tell from the angle of the pic

kenchan 05-07-2010 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 529119)
Sounds like you got it figured out! I did dremel that plastic lip aft of the foam, and also cut a slit in the foam for the shaft to drop into without compressing it...

I didn't raise the ball (no evidence of rubbing the Bat. cover on mine) but found it necessary to unscrew the shaft, Put the little retainer clip in place with the end on the ball, then rescrew the shaft and pop it into the hood ball. Didn't use a clp there as it doesn't seem necessary and it makes it easier to snap the Cylinder off if necessary..You could always put a few washers under the triangle plate to raise if necessary....:tup:

http://images56.fotki.com/v525/photo...MG_2550-vi.jpg
Thanks again for the guidance modshack! I'm going to raise the ball joint side like 1-2mm after dinner and it should clear it on mine. :p the hood closes completely stock not even a hint of bulging. :D

Modshack 05-07-2010 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 529131)
Hey Mod, Will this set up get in the way of the removal of the battery in the event of a Battery failure? kinda hard to tell from the angle of the pic
Trip......It may take an extra minute or 2 to snap off the cylinder. Seems you need to remove both the battery cover and it's plastic base to get good battery removal access...No biggy.

Trips 05-07-2010 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 529141)
Trip......It may take an extra minute or 2 to snap off the cylinder. Seems you need to remove both the battery cover and it's plastic base to get good battery removal access...No biggy.
thank you :tiphat:

kenchan 05-08-2010 08:53 AM
modshack- everything turned out great. :D thanks again.

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...0-finished.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...668-check1.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...669-check2.jpg

on the left side my car still had a slight bulge and found that it was rubbing on this
thing (red arrow)... hahaha :D

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...-left-hits.jpg


so trimmed the hood bracket by about 4mm. :p (label says R but it's for the left)

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...racket-cut.jpg

:D

Modshack 05-08-2010 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 529509)
modshack- everything turned out great. :D thanks again.
Looks good!...Glad I could help...:tup:

Vegitto-kun 05-08-2010 11:33 AM
So Did you make a DIY yet?

Modshack 05-08-2010 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 529598)
So Did you make a DIY yet?
Kenchan did, complete with the updates...

waaaasabi 05-08-2010 03:03 PM
CF Rear Hatch Dampers
 
Alright so I went outside during a study break to install the rear dampers. It's actually a lot easier if you ignore everything else that comes with the package (ball joints, brackets, etc.). At least one person PM'd me about the ball joint; you can, er rather should, use the stock ones.

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...508001410a.jpg
The key is, as Ryan mentioned earlier, to install and lock in the top join first by lining it up parallel to the hatch, then whacking it in. The angle of the bottom cup joint will not match up, so you'll have to unscrew the top cup joint a bit from the damper arm.
Also you might have to unscrew the stock top ball joint a bit or else the bottom cup joint won't reach the ball joint. Then after you install and lock the bottom joint, re-screw the top ball joint up and it's all good to go.

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...0508001410.jpg
Stock bottom brackets.

Woot woot! And yeah my car is dirty, but that's how I like my cars and my women. :tiphat:

Prosport Gauges 05-08-2010 03:52 PM
Nice!! good job :)

kenchan 05-08-2010 04:58 PM
Any bulging on the hatch? ;) jk

Nice job! :D

waaaasabi 05-08-2010 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 529798)
Any bulging on the hatch? ;) jk

Nice job! :D
Haha. The only thing is, after it crosses a certain level - a threshold if you will - the hatch will go flying up like a catapult. So I guess the dampers are stronger than the stock ones. Just gotta make sure there are no small animals, like kittens for example, napping on your rear hatch when you open it, or else... :stirthepot:

kenchan 05-08-2010 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 529801)
Haha. The only thing is, after it crosses a certain level - a threshold if you will - the hatch will go flying up like a catapult. So I guess the dampers are stronger than the stock ones. Just gotta make sure there are no small animals, like kittens for example, napping on your rear hatch when you open it, or else... :stirthepot:
Hahaha! :D. That's how it was on my hood damper until it was broken in. Keep cycling it and it should get rid of air bubbles or watever and settle down.

Joka4411 05-09-2010 12:02 AM
Will it alow you to ride with the hatch open or somthing?

Vegitto-kun 05-10-2010 04:08 PM
how did you guys get the plastic cover off?

I am worried about those things that hold it

kenchan 05-10-2010 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 532025)
how did you guys get the plastic cover off?

I am worried about those things that hold it
which plastic cover? and what's 'those things?' you sound like some obasan. :icon17:


if you're talking about the battery cover surround piece there's 4 tabs and you need to take the cover off in order to access the 2.

Modshack 05-10-2010 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 532088)
which plastic cover?
Yeah, which covers? Also offered to send you a few of the triangles (n Kenchan's DIY thread) but didn't hear back

Vegitto-kun 05-10-2010 05:23 PM
yeah the surround pieces that you need to take off to drill the hole and put the triangles on.

Didn't see your post in the topic shack. well im gonna look around if I can find them tommorow else il get back to you :)

NYBladeZ 05-11-2010 02:38 PM
the rears look nice but I can't see why you'd change them out and pay for a part that offers no advantage over the stock piece.

ZPirate 05-11-2010 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 533291)
the rears look nice but I can't see why you'd change them out and pay for a part that offers no advantage over the stock piece.
I have to agree with you. Even for car show junkies like me the rear shocks are hard to justify the change. :stirthepot: X2

The hood dampers are a different story though. :tup:

waaaasabi 05-11-2010 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 533291)
the rears look nice but I can't see why you'd change them out and pay for a part that offers no advantage over the stock piece.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZPirate (Post 533305)
I have to agree with you. Even for car show junkies like me the rear shocks are hard to justify the change. :stirthepot: X2

The hood dampers are a different story though. :tup:
Yeah, I know it's hard to justify changing out the rear dampers, and I can't really explain it either. I guess it's because I open the hatch quite often - I need to throw my briefcase, book-bag and gym-bag in there on a near-daily basis, I'll get see the dampers everyday, so why not?

And since the packaging came with the parts necessary for setting up the hood dampers, when I'm done with this school semester, I can throw the stock rear dampers onto the front :tup:

Prosport 05-11-2010 06:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 533291)
the rears look nice but I can't see why you'd change them out and pay for a part that offers no advantage over the stock piece.
looks is often times regarded as an "Advanatge"

NYBladeZ 05-11-2010 06:11 PM
lol with all the carbon I already have I don't think the dampeners add or take away anything. Regardless if I had the $ lying around I'd jump on it they do look nice.

Huan'z 06-03-2012 01:17 AM
do the coupon still work? and theres no application for the front hood... pls pm me RYAN!!

Ron 06-04-2012 09:56 AM
lol 2 years later..

SmallermouseZ 06-09-2012 03:15 PM
How light is it compared to stock?

Prosport Gauges 06-10-2012 06:31 AM
Only a few ounces lighter


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