New car with water spots that wont come off

Juruki · 04-07-2010, 11:26 AM

So I bought a 09 370Z thats been sitting in the lot for a long time. I received the car on a cloudy day and I failed to see all the water spots on it. The day after i saw them i called the dealer and they told me to come in that they would buff them out. I couldnt trust the dealer with a high speed buffer on my new paint so i decided to take it to a detailer.
I got my car back this sunday and the paint is back to normal. However, my side view mirrors still have those crappy water marks on them and i cant seem to get them off with anything.
What do you guys recommend? I tried all type of cleaners and still nothing.
TIA!!!

SE · 04-07-2010, 11:43 AM

Regular water spots should come out with a normal wash and detail. It's either baked on (and will be extremely hard to remove) or they're hard water spots and you need to use something a little stronger to remove it.

SE · 04-07-2010, 11:45 AM

Is it just on the mirror part of your side mirror? Try using a little goo-gone or simple green. just wet the towel/cloth and apply the solution, then wipe it clean after letting it sit for a few minutes. Try doing this somewhere cool like in a garage or in the shade. Don't do this on a hot mirror or the problem will get loose or the solution will streak. Rinse it a couple more times with water. Don't let it get on your paint.

JungleB · 04-07-2010, 11:46 AM

Do a search, you're not the only 09 owner with the problem. It's not common but there are complaints about it. Some refer it to orange pealing.

fatcat777 · 04-07-2010, 11:47 AM

try doing a full detail on the car. wash with dawn soap first then clay bar the entire car, then you should be able to buff most of your imperfections out.

Juruki · 04-07-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by weeeee

Is it just on the mirror part of your side mirror? Try using a little goo-gone or simple green. just wet the towel/cloth and apply the solution, then wipe it clean after letting it sit for a few minutes. Try doing this somewhere cool like in a garage or in the shade. Don't do this on a hot mirror or the problem will get loose or the solution will streak. Rinse it a couple more times with water. Don't let it get on your paint.

Thx! i will try that tonight

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleB

Do a search, you're not the only 09 owner with the problem. It's not common but there are complaints about it. Some refer it to orange pealing.

It is NOT orange pealing. They are marks that water leaves when it dries out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatcat777

try doing a full detail on the car. wash with dawn soap first then clay bar the entire car, then you should be able to buff most of your imperfections out.

Like i said, the paint of the car is back to normal. Its just the water spots on the sideview MIRRORS that i cant get off. And i cant buff those small mirrors

fatcat777 · 04-07-2010, 12:57 PM

try claying the mirrors then waxing them

BrianMSmith · 04-07-2010, 02:05 PM

I have the same problem. It looks like hard water spots. I have not done anything yet, but I suppose I should take it to a detailer.

Juruki · 04-07-2010, 02:16 PM

^^ Some water spots leave the paint etched and wont come off with a simple wash. You need to hit it with a buffer and a abrassive polish. Good luck!

NXTAZEE · 04-07-2010, 02:20 PM

If left long enough water spots will etch into the clear coat. A light polish will usually remove them, I rarely need to use anything more abrasive than that. Juruki, you need to go back to the detailer and have them finish the job properly by polishing the mirrors. Fellas, don't confuse water spots with orange peel they are two entirely different things. Orange peel looks like the surface of an orange, very dimply and distorts reflection in the paint. Water spots are random whitish rings on the paint, if left too long they lose the whitish look and etch in. Keep a fresh coat of wax or sealant on your paint and you will not have this problem. I reseal my paint every 3rd wash and have 0 issues.

resdm50 · 04-07-2010, 03:09 PM

I have the same issue on my hood. I took it to a detailer and they made it a little better, but they said they couldn't do too much polishing as the paint on the hood was ridiculously thin. (This was the case with another 370 they detailed too).

Juruki · 04-07-2010, 03:11 PM

^^ thx for the tip NXTAZEE! the detailer said that he didnt have a pad to polish the small sideview mirrors? What do you recommend to polish the mirrors?
He told me to try a 50/50 vinegar water mix. Im gonna try that when i get home but i doubt it will work

Juruki · 04-07-2010, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by resdm50

I have the same issue on my hood. I took it to a detailer and they made it a little better, but they said they couldn't do too much polishing as the paint on the hood was ridiculously thin. (This was the case with another 370 they detailed too).

Never heard that before. I think most cars have the same thickness in the clearcoat? Not sure thou
thx for sharing

Billarf · 04-07-2010, 04:27 PM

For water spots on rear view mirrors and windows the product at the link below will remove them without a doubt. It is pricey but it does work.
I know a few detailers that swear by the stuff.

http://www.touchoforanges.com/clhawaspfrgl.html

NXTAZEE · 04-07-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juruki

^^ thx for the tip NXTAZEE! the detailer said that he didnt have a pad to polish the small sideview mirrors? What do you recommend to polish the mirrors?
He told me to try a 50/50 vinegar water mix. Im gonna try that when i get home but i doubt it will work

Any pad will do

. I have some 3" pads that work very well but have polished mirrors with lager pads as well. You could try some scratch X with a microfiber cloth, if that doesn't work find a professional detailer who can polish mirrors. The 50/50 mix will not work.

04-07-2010, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Juruki Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 965 Drives: 370Z Tour/Sport/Navi Rep Power: 16	New car with water spots that wont come off So I bought a 09 370Z thats been sitting in the lot for a long time. I received the car on a cloudy day and I failed to see all the water spots on it. The day after i saw them i called the dealer and they told me to come in that they would buff them out. I couldnt trust the dealer with a high speed buffer on my new paint so i decided to take it to a detailer. I got my car back this sunday and the paint is back to normal. However, my side view mirrors still have those crappy water marks on them and i cant seem to get them off with anything. What do you guys recommend? I tried all type of cleaners and still nothing. TIA!!!

04-07-2010, 02:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
NXTAZEE Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 530 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 17	If left long enough water spots will etch into the clear coat. A light polish will usually remove them, I rarely need to use anything more abrasive than that. Juruki, you need to go back to the detailer and have them finish the job properly by polishing the mirrors. Fellas, don't confuse water spots with orange peel they are two entirely different things. Orange peel looks like the surface of an orange, very dimply and distorts reflection in the paint. Water spots are random whitish rings on the paint, if left too long they lose the whitish look and etch in. Keep a fresh coat of wax or sealant on your paint and you will not have this problem. I reseal my paint every 3rd wash and have 0 issues. __________________ 2010 Carbon Silver 370Z 7AT charcoal int. sports package \| Clear Bra \| Invidia Gemini CBE \| CF B-Pillars \| CF Fangs \| CF Z emblems \| Swift Springs \| 20mm & 25mm Spacers \| SPC Camber Arms \| Brushed Aluminum shift knob

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04-07-2010, 11:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	Regular water spots should come out with a normal wash and detail. It's either baked on (and will be extremely hard to remove) or they're hard water spots and you need to use something a little stronger to remove it.

04-07-2010, 11:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	Is it just on the mirror part of your side mirror? Try using a little goo-gone or simple green. just wet the towel/cloth and apply the solution, then wipe it clean after letting it sit for a few minutes. Try doing this somewhere cool like in a garage or in the shade. Don't do this on a hot mirror or the problem will get loose or the solution will streak. Rinse it a couple more times with water. Don't let it get on your paint.

04-07-2010, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
JungleB Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 76 Drives: 96 VW Passat GLX Rep Power: 16	Do a search, you're not the only 09 owner with the problem. It's not common but there are complaints about it. Some refer it to orange pealing.

04-07-2010, 11:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
fatcat777 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 220 Drives: BlackPersimmonSport Rep Power: 16	try doing a full detail on the car. wash with dawn soap first then clay bar the entire car, then you should be able to buff most of your imperfections out.

04-07-2010, 12:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
fatcat777 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 220 Drives: BlackPersimmonSport Rep Power: 16	try claying the mirrors then waxing them

04-07-2010, 02:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
BrianMSmith Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: secret Posts: 267 Drives: 370Z, Ducati 748S Rep Power: 16	I have the same problem. It looks like hard water spots. I have not done anything yet, but I suppose I should take it to a detailer.

04-07-2010, 02:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Juruki Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 965 Drives: 370Z Tour/Sport/Navi Rep Power: 16	^^ Some water spots leave the paint etched and wont come off with a simple wash. You need to hit it with a buffer and a abrassive polish. Good luck!

04-07-2010, 03:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
resdm50 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 80 Drives: 2008 350z Rep Power: 16	I have the same issue on my hood. I took it to a detailer and they made it a little better, but they said they couldn't do too much polishing as the paint on the hood was ridiculously thin. (This was the case with another 370 they detailed too).

04-07-2010, 03:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
Juruki Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 965 Drives: 370Z Tour/Sport/Navi Rep Power: 16	^^ thx for the tip NXTAZEE! the detailer said that he didnt have a pad to polish the small sideview mirrors? What do you recommend to polish the mirrors? He told me to try a 50/50 vinegar water mix. Im gonna try that when i get home but i doubt it will work

04-07-2010, 04:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
Billarf Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY Posts: 132 Drives: . Rep Power: 15	For water spots on rear view mirrors and windows the product at the link below will remove them without a doubt. It is pricey but it does work. I know a few detailers that swear by the stuff. http://www.touchoforanges.com/clhawaspfrgl.html