Love it or Hate it! Wide body concept design...

Kyle@STILLEN · 03-23-2010, 08:58 PM

We actually have done wide body kits before. One of my personal favorites was the Mercedes CLK 430 that we built. We don't make them anymore because they are just too expensive to do it right. Mold cost for urethane is very high. For example, the front fascia that we've made for the 370...We probably have around 30K invested into the fascia...Just developing the molds.

Urethane would work well for the fascia and rockers but it won't work very well for the fenders. Unfortunately poly urethane doesn't have the support structure to work well for fenders without some serious additional weight to build support ribs. Fiberglass would be less expensive but obviously heavier and not as durable. CF would be my preferred choice but it won't be cheap. Although you'll be able to save some money with the hood. I am probably going to develop a pre-preg CF hood soon that is similar to what you have designed but we've moved the vents further back to aid in cooling.

The reason I mention seperating the intercoolers on the side is because that is how all of the professional race cars run it. That way the freshest air is going to the intercoolers and the radiator seperately. Brakes really just need air blowing across them so I wouldn't put too much emphasis on them. Something simple with a 2-2.5 inch opening will be sufficient. Check out this car built by Jun. I really like what they did with their intercooler/fascia setup...just throwing out ideas...

Nissan 350z R - AWD Import & Tuner Car - Super Street

Nissan 350Z Awd Jun Auto Vq35de Engine Intercooler Radiator Photo

mayesj101 · 03-23-2010, 09:23 PM

I like the remake more, bullitt-the original kind of screamed of mature "Fast and Furious", but this leans more towards refined power. I like the way this concept/plan is moving along!

bullitt5897 · 03-23-2010, 09:26 PM

I always loved that car! I just wish I had the funds to support it! V-mounts are amazing and I would do that if I could and then vent the hood right above the v-mount to allow the air to flow in the v-mount and then back over the hood... Jun makes a sick car for sure!

darkseed · 03-24-2010, 01:23 PM

a little too asian riced out for my taste

bullitt5897 · 03-24-2010, 02:06 PM

what... the Jun, My 1st design or the 2nd design?

Jesse_Hunter · 03-24-2010, 02:31 PM

I like the idea of wide body alot, and those hood vents, as long as its not a carbon fiber hood, and minus the wing. I think it would look really clean wide body without the wing.

eddieconfetti · 03-24-2010, 04:30 PM

Dont forget that he is going to track also. He might need the wing, especially if he is gonna reach 1000+ HP.

d02808045 · 03-24-2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

ok New Design:

I think i like your initial design better, look more aggressive on the first design, square-like look. I dig the first design!

jrniehaus · 03-24-2010, 10:37 PM

I personally think it looks, not too bad. But.. smooth the fender flares. Don't like the flat edge near the fender wells. And, maybe think something slighly different for the vents on the hood. I think something more subtle may be the ticket. People will stare due to slight changes more, than drastic changes, and it will stick in their heads and they will want it.
At least that is my 2 cents.....

Jesse_Hunter · 03-25-2010, 01:29 PM

Ah yes, sorry I don't race. I'm speaking completely off appearance. If it's going to the track I'd imagine you would want it to be as aerodynamic as possible.

j.arnaldo · 03-25-2010, 02:58 PM

Sketch is good; with a couple improvements, you'll be O.K., dude.

mayesj101 · 03-30-2010, 11:26 AM

So Bullitt, any updates?

Westwood · 03-31-2010, 08:37 AM

looks crazy and i like crazyy

bullitt5897 · 03-31-2010, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayesj101

So Bullitt, any updates?

nope still looking for a company to build it.

mayesj101 · 04-09-2010, 11:37 AM

Bump...

03-23-2010, 09:26 PM	#48 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I always loved that car! I just wish I had the funds to support it! V-mounts are amazing and I would do that if I could and then vent the hood right above the v-mount to allow the air to flow in the v-mount and then back over the hood... Jun makes a sick car for sure! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

03-24-2010, 01:23 PM	#49 (permalink)
darkseed Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 86 Drives: 09 370Z PG M6 Rep Power: 16	a little too asian riced out for my taste __________________ 09 PG M6 w/NAV - 307RWPH - FI mods

03-24-2010, 02:06 PM	#50 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	what... the Jun, My 1st design or the 2nd design? __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

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03-23-2010, 08:58 PM	#46 (permalink)
Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 306	We actually have done wide body kits before. One of my personal favorites was the Mercedes CLK 430 that we built. We don't make them anymore because they are just too expensive to do it right. Mold cost for urethane is very high. For example, the front fascia that we've made for the 370...We probably have around 30K invested into the fascia...Just developing the molds. Urethane would work well for the fascia and rockers but it won't work very well for the fenders. Unfortunately poly urethane doesn't have the support structure to work well for fenders without some serious additional weight to build support ribs. Fiberglass would be less expensive but obviously heavier and not as durable. CF would be my preferred choice but it won't be cheap. Although you'll be able to save some money with the hood. I am probably going to develop a pre-preg CF hood soon that is similar to what you have designed but we've moved the vents further back to aid in cooling. The reason I mention seperating the intercoolers on the side is because that is how all of the professional race cars run it. That way the freshest air is going to the intercoolers and the radiator seperately. Brakes really just need air blowing across them so I wouldn't put too much emphasis on them. Something simple with a 2-2.5 inch opening will be sufficient. Check out this car built by Jun. I really like what they did with their intercooler/fascia setup...just throwing out ideas... Nissan 350z R - AWD Import & Tuner Car - Super Street Nissan 350Z Awd Jun Auto Vq35de Engine Intercooler Radiator Photo

03-23-2010, 09:23 PM	#47 (permalink)
mayesj101 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 25 Drives: 88 Nissan 300ZX-T M5 Rep Power: 15	I like the remake more, bullitt-the original kind of screamed of mature "Fast and Furious", but this leans more towards refined power. I like the way this concept/plan is moving along!

03-24-2010, 02:31 PM	#51 (permalink)
Jesse_Hunter Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denton,TX Age: 38 Posts: 738 Drives: 07' Sky Redline Rep Power: 365	I like the idea of wide body alot, and those hood vents, as long as its not a carbon fiber hood, and minus the wing. I think it would look really clean wide body without the wing.

03-24-2010, 04:30 PM	#52 (permalink)
eddieconfetti A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 3,334 Drives: A Totaled PW Z Rep Power: 23	Dont forget that he is going to track also. He might need the wing, especially if he is gonna reach 1000+ HP.

03-24-2010, 10:37 PM	#54 (permalink)
jrniehaus Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Phx,AZ Posts: 45 Drives: 370z 6spd sport mdl Rep Power: 16	I personally think it looks, not too bad. But.. smooth the fender flares. Don't like the flat edge near the fender wells. And, maybe think something slighly different for the vents on the hood. I think something more subtle may be the ticket. People will stare due to slight changes more, than drastic changes, and it will stick in their heads and they will want it. At least that is my 2 cents.....

03-25-2010, 01:29 PM	#55 (permalink)
Jesse_Hunter Track Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denton,TX Age: 38 Posts: 738 Drives: 07' Sky Redline Rep Power: 365	Ah yes, sorry I don't race. I'm speaking completely off appearance. If it's going to the track I'd imagine you would want it to be as aerodynamic as possible.

03-25-2010, 02:58 PM	#56 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	Sketch is good; with a couple improvements, you'll be O.K., dude.

03-30-2010, 11:26 AM	#57 (permalink)
mayesj101 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 25 Drives: 88 Nissan 300ZX-T M5 Rep Power: 15	So Bullitt, any updates?

04-09-2010, 11:37 AM	#60 (permalink)
mayesj101 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 25 Drives: 88 Nissan 300ZX-T M5 Rep Power: 15	Bump...