Chips down to the bare metal!!!

stormcrow · 03-08-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fly yellow

I haven't had many chips with my Z, but for the ones I have had I use Dr. colorchip. It works pretty well. This isn't just a Nissan problem. Thanks to our dear friends in the government and their excessive regulations car manufacturers just can't make a long lasting, strong paint that meets EPA guidelines. The consumer gets screwed again.

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Originally Posted by HTP AutoWorks

This isnt just a Nissan issue. It is across the board these days. All auto manufacturers have to follow the EPA rules and regulations. The EPA has enacted several new laws requiring auto manufacturers to stop using certian chemicals and hardeners during the painting process. They are also forcing everyone to go with water based paints that are VERY soft. I go through about 12 different forums, most of them different types of cars, and everyone from Ferrari to Honda complains about their paint being soft. The best option you have is to get a clear bra installed when you first get it and then it wont be an issue.

Spectacular information, guys. I almost figured as much as I have seen others complaining of Honda and Subaru paint issues. I think the issue with the GT-R was they tried a "self-healing" paint. It's possible that this is what they used on the Z, as well. Either way, I do know local body shops can put down stronger paint than OEM stuff and will have to take this route someday.

vipor · 03-08-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

Spectacular information, guys. I almost figured as much as I have seen others complaining of Honda and Subaru paint issues. I think the issue with the GT-R was they tried a "self-healing" paint. It's possible that this is what they used on the Z, as well. Either way, I do know local body shops can put down stronger paint than OEM stuff and will have to take this route someday.

It's not on any Nissan, but it was used on some Infiniti's for a short time. I believe it was more the clear coat healing under direct sun and heat, not the paint.

stormcrow · 03-08-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

It's not on any Nissan, but it was used on some Infiniti's for a short time. I believe it was more the clear coat healing under direct sun and heat, not the paint.

It is certainly on the GT-R. But, you are correct, it is the clear, but Nissan terms it a self-healing "paint". Don't rightly know why.

Heat guns and sun are supposed to work. But, in truth, this type of clear is so soft that it scratches from usage of microfiber rags. Ugh.

vipor · 03-08-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

It is certainly on the GT-R. But, you are correct, it is the clear, but Nissan terms it a self-healing "paint". Don't rightly know why.

Heat guns and sun are supposed to work. But, in truth, this type of clear is so soft that it scratches from usage of microfiber rags. Ugh.

Yeah I screwed up by saying "any Nissan"

It is on the GTR, but it's in it's own class.

stormcrow · 03-08-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

Yeah I screwed up by saying "any Nissan"

It is on the GTR, but it's in it's own class.

Supposedly this stuff was put on MY05+ cars in Japan and elsewhere. Can't say for certain that it was here in the US during these times. Also, I heard somewhere that Nissan is putting this paint on mobile phones? *haha*

kannibul · 03-08-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

Spectacular information, guys. I almost figured as much as I have seen others complaining of Honda and Subaru paint issues. I think the issue with the GT-R was they tried a "self-healing" paint. It's possible that this is what they used on the Z, as well. Either way, I do know local body shops can put down stronger paint than OEM stuff and will have to take this route someday.

Nope, do some reading. Nissan hasn't used self-healing paint on vehicles under their brand...but Infiniti has some.

Euro destined Nissan's may be a different deal - but in the USA...nope.

stormcrow · 03-08-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Nope, do some reading. Nissan hasn't used self-healing paint on vehicles under their brand...but Infiniti has some.

Euro destined Nissan's may be a different deal - but in the USA...nope.

Don't need to read when you had the car. *lol* I didn't believe it, at first either, until multiple high-end body shops agreed with the Nissan rep who first told me. My red GT-R scratched so easily that I contemplated a whole repaint. I was told by the high-end shops quoting me said repaint that it was the self-healing clear that was causing my scratching issue and that repainting would fix the issue, but was most likely a waste of money until more paint damage was noticable. From what I understand, Nissan is discontinuing its usage on the MY11 cars.

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