Nismo Z factory paint defect

RedNismo · 02-22-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee

Damn. You guys are making me nervous. Hopefully, I won't have any paint problems.

You should worry. Nissan has the worst paint. My G35 coupe had major chips in the front bumper after 2 years. None of my other cars have that with twice as many miles on the car. That's why I already had the clear bra installed on my Nismo. Clear Bra is on front bumper, mirrors, and rear side panel infront of the rear wheels.

simons · 06-16-2010, 06:05 PM

I was looking at the rear bumper on my 09 Nismo and saw a couple of minor cracks. At least they look like cracks but may just by paint defects like mentioned above. If lying under the rear bumper, you look up at it near the corners it looks like someone used a freaking saw zawl ( I know I spelled this crap wrong) to trim the bumper.

And the left tail light right at the corner, there is a spot where the paint is raised up slightly but conforms to the tail light.

I agree with a dude earlier. I expect to have better quality paint from the factory.

And looking up at the bumper, I noticed two black metal braces just hanging down from the frame that look like they were supposed to attach to the rear bumper but don't. There is only one pop rivet holding the center of the rear bumper, right behind the center of the muffler.

Can someone else chime in about the two black, metal braces and if theirs are attached and not just hanging like mine?

MblueZ34 · 06-16-2010, 08:21 PM

Wow CRAZY! sorry to hear that

simons · 06-16-2010, 08:25 PM

Is there anything similar on your rear bumper? As far as the metal brackets I mean?

simons · 06-16-2010, 09:24 PM

I may have exaggerated a bit about how bad it looks but to me, it looks bad. I'm a perfectionist when it comes to my car and every scratch irritates me. I need to learn to deal with it. To think that scratches and dings won't happen simply isn't realistic.

StealthZ · 06-18-2010, 10:45 AM

Nissan's paint isn't that great and is easily chipped. If they isntalled the swirls by polishing it with a buffer then the detailer didn't know $H!* on how to do his job, it was problably the hack wash jobs they all do. I had to have several peices repaitned from bad paint and even thinning in the cleaer coat on my hatch. Yeah I was pissed, only benefit is I had a better paint now then I did from the factory and have DuPonts service plan and life time warranty. I am sorry to hear about your issues and hope you get them resolved, I had to go to a few dealers to get one that carred and used a privately owned shop that wasn't dealer owned.

And as for the swirls, go get a real detailer to do it or try to get the dealership to pay, but a full on paint correction for that vehicle should be at most 300ish, but I think a one step would do it and they run about half that price. If you want to learn try it yourself, polishing isn't hard, just takes time and patients. Try Meguire's M-105/205 its their proffesional line not the crappy swirl X. Get their polisher or Porter Cable, only thing is detailign is addictive but well worth the time IMO.
Good luck

chii370 · 08-01-2010, 11:13 AM

i too have a 09 solid red nismo, and i have the EXACT same issue with the paint on the rear bumper where it meets the quarter panels..... lets get some pics going and show nissan ur not the only one.

Matt · 08-01-2010, 11:35 AM

09 Red Nismo here, no paint problems yet...other than a few tiny chips on the bumper.

HATED1 · 08-01-2010, 02:33 PM

2010 red also (not nismo) but i got the same problems with the paint. Dealer prepped up the car for pick up only to make it worse with their detailers.

kenchan · 08-01-2010, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNismo

Hi all,

I have a 2009 Red Nismo Z. On the passenger side where the rear bumper meets the rear fender, paint chips came off right on the panel line. I took it back to the dealer, and they touched it up for me. I checked out another 2009 Red Nismo at the dealer, same problem. I think the bumpers were put on too tight for the Nismo. During shipment, the bumper and the fender rubs on each other, and the paint chips off. Has anyone else seen this problem? I checked other non-nismo Zs at the dealership, and didn't see this problem.

Also, the stupid F'ing dealership screwed up my paint. They detailed it when I first bought it. They'd used the rotary buffer, and polished it. Now I have swirl marks all over the car. Since the car is Red, the swirls are very noticable under the sun. It pss me off. They said to bring it back and they'll fix it. All they will do is add more swirls to it and wear down the top coat evern more. What should I do? I trie the Mcquiar's Swirl X, but it only removed the light swirls. Sage auto group has the worst Infiniti/Nissan dealerships! I had other service problems with their Infiniti dealership.

talk to richard, he's in your area (if you're in glendale, california). there are several Z owners that have had their car detailed at richard's shop with excellent results. he is also the creator or BlackWow.

Detailing Innovations, Inc.
ShowCarDetailing.com
5530 E. La Palma Ave.
Anaheim, CA 92807

866 707 9292

OctaneGuy · 08-01-2010, 03:52 PM

All you have to do is tell the service advisor to write on the order: DO NOT WASH CAR

Then tape a couple of signs inside on the steering wheel and dash that say
"DO NOT WASH/NO LAVE" to cover both English and Spanish employees.

As far as Nissan paint goes...in general, Nissan paint is pretty soft and thus swirls pretty easily even just from wiping it down with poor quality or just contaminated towels.

Richard

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick

so, when it's time to service the car, you are not going take your car back there, would you?

Sandra Dee · 08-01-2010, 07:45 PM

my car has clear coat cracks on the trunk and hood already. I naively

purchased the Simoniz clear coat too. Now-I am hoping because I have a warranty on the clear coat-that it will get fixed. Tomorrow i am sending a copy of my warranty and a written statement to SImoniz. Maybe by purchasing the extra clear coat i have indeed saved myself...since otherwise i would have to deal with nissan and their warrany on their clear coat / paint...does not sound by this forum that i would get very far...

PapoZalsa · 08-01-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pariz

My nismo has a crack paint and crack rear bumper under the wheels, ten hrs after receiving the car I reported the defect to the dealer. This is a very ovious factory problem and Nissan it's not taking care of the problem. Months have passed and now they are saying that I cracked the paint and plastic.
I am thinking about getting a lawyer and will help if someone else has the same problem.
I am very dissapointed with Nissan.
I don't feel safe on this car now, I also hear crackling noyse when I am driving it.

Have you try emailing Nissan North America Customer Service?

LMK, I have the contacts emails addresses.

chii370 · 08-02-2010, 02:25 AM

just spoke with nissan service for the bigillionth time and they keep steering me toward talking to consumer affairs about it. They say that if enough people simply call them up and whine about the same problem a certain number of times that a "bulletin" is placed out to all dealerships to immediately and w/o question fix the problem on the spot under warranty after research is done to HOW to fix it. Seems to me that all people really need to do is get off rear end, stop talking to the dealership which will just give you the same answer every time, and start crying to these consumer affairs guys to fix our ****. if enough people do it, it will fix all our problems not just one persons. number is 18006477261 and they dont have an email address so i guess they haven't been introduced to the 21st century yet. worst thing that can happen is nothing, best thing is that we could all have our cars permanently and properly repaired at the dealerships expense so i would say its worth a half our of your time to make the effort.

Blackbelt · 08-04-2010, 10:40 AM

Better check your Z for paint bubbles as well. My red '09 has them and I as well as others have posted at length on this under "Purplish Paint Bubbles". Mine are most noticeable in the heat of the summer in direct sunlight. Interesting that the original post mentions swirls as a result of an orbital buffer. The dealership applied a product to my Z called "First Place Finish" prior to my purchasing it. Wonder if they were too aggressive with the buffer and pricked tiny holes in the car? Thanks to the poster with the Nissan Customer Affairs #; I will give them a call.

06-18-2010, 10:45 AM	#21 (permalink)
StealthZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 356 Drives: '14 GTR Premium Rep Power: 17	Nissan's paint isn't that great and is easily chipped. If they isntalled the swirls by polishing it with a buffer then the detailer didn't know $H!* on how to do his job, it was problably the hack wash jobs they all do. I had to have several peices repaitned from bad paint and even thinning in the cleaer coat on my hatch. Yeah I was pissed, only benefit is I had a better paint now then I did from the factory and have DuPonts service plan and life time warranty. I am sorry to hear about your issues and hope you get them resolved, I had to go to a few dealers to get one that carred and used a privately owned shop that wasn't dealer owned. And as for the swirls, go get a real detailer to do it or try to get the dealership to pay, but a full on paint correction for that vehicle should be at most 300ish, but I think a one step would do it and they run about half that price. If you want to learn try it yourself, polishing isn't hard, just takes time and patients. Try Meguire's M-105/205 its their proffesional line not the crappy swirl X. Get their polisher or Porter Cable, only thing is detailign is addictive but well worth the time IMO. Good luck Last edited by StealthZ; 06-18-2010 at 10:48 AM.

08-01-2010, 11:35 AM	#23 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 41 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	09 Red Nismo here, no paint problems yet...other than a few tiny chips on the bumper. __________________ "Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

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06-16-2010, 06:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
simons Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: York, SC Posts: 30 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 15	I was looking at the rear bumper on my 09 Nismo and saw a couple of minor cracks. At least they look like cracks but may just by paint defects like mentioned above. If lying under the rear bumper, you look up at it near the corners it looks like someone used a freaking saw zawl ( I know I spelled this crap wrong) to trim the bumper. And the left tail light right at the corner, there is a spot where the paint is raised up slightly but conforms to the tail light. I agree with a dude earlier. I expect to have better quality paint from the factory. And looking up at the bumper, I noticed two black metal braces just hanging down from the frame that look like they were supposed to attach to the rear bumper but don't. There is only one pop rivet holding the center of the rear bumper, right behind the center of the muffler. Can someone else chime in about the two black, metal braces and if theirs are attached and not just hanging like mine?

06-16-2010, 08:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
MblueZ34 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: miami Posts: 136 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6 Rep Power: 16	Wow CRAZY! sorry to hear that

06-16-2010, 08:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
simons Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: York, SC Posts: 30 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 15	Is there anything similar on your rear bumper? As far as the metal brackets I mean?

06-16-2010, 09:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
simons Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: York, SC Posts: 30 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 15	I may have exaggerated a bit about how bad it looks but to me, it looks bad. I'm a perfectionist when it comes to my car and every scratch irritates me. I need to learn to deal with it. To think that scratches and dings won't happen simply isn't realistic.

08-01-2010, 11:13 AM	#22 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	i too have a 09 solid red nismo, and i have the EXACT same issue with the paint on the rear bumper where it meets the quarter panels..... lets get some pics going and show nissan ur not the only one.

08-01-2010, 02:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
HATED1 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WA Posts: 504 Drives: 2010-370z-Red-6 SPD Rep Power: 17	2010 red also (not nismo) but i got the same problems with the paint. Dealer prepped up the car for pick up only to make it worse with their detailers.

08-01-2010, 07:45 PM	#27 (permalink)
Sandra Dee Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NC Posts: 215 Drives: 370ZRdstr BLK Cherry Rep Power: 15	my car has clear coat cracks on the trunk and hood already. I naively purchased the Simoniz clear coat too. Now-I am hoping because I have a warranty on the clear coat-that it will get fixed. Tomorrow i am sending a copy of my warranty and a written statement to SImoniz. Maybe by purchasing the extra clear coat i have indeed saved myself...since otherwise i would have to deal with nissan and their warrany on their clear coat / paint...does not sound by this forum that i would get very far...

08-02-2010, 02:25 AM	#29 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	just spoke with nissan service for the bigillionth time and they keep steering me toward talking to consumer affairs about it. They say that if enough people simply call them up and whine about the same problem a certain number of times that a "bulletin" is placed out to all dealerships to immediately and w/o question fix the problem on the spot under warranty after research is done to HOW to fix it. Seems to me that all people really need to do is get off rear end, stop talking to the dealership which will just give you the same answer every time, and start crying to these consumer affairs guys to fix our ****. if enough people do it, it will fix all our problems not just one persons. number is 18006477261 and they dont have an email address so i guess they haven't been introduced to the 21st century yet. worst thing that can happen is nothing, best thing is that we could all have our cars permanently and properly repaired at the dealerships expense so i would say its worth a half our of your time to make the effort.

08-04-2010, 10:40 AM	#30 (permalink)
Blackbelt Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 27 Drives: 16 Nissan 370Z Red M Rep Power: 16	Better check your Z for paint bubbles as well. My red '09 has them and I as well as others have posted at length on this under "Purplish Paint Bubbles". Mine are most noticeable in the heat of the summer in direct sunlight. Interesting that the original post mentions swirls as a result of an orbital buffer. The dealership applied a product to my Z called "First Place Finish" prior to my purchasing it. Wonder if they were too aggressive with the buffer and pricked tiny holes in the car? Thanks to the poster with the Nissan Customer Affairs #; I will give them a call.