3m Ni Doc carbon fiber vinyl

kenchan · 07-17-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Actually it was still a pain, it doesn't like to conform to the shape of the dials. When you wrap it up the dials air gets trapped under the vinyl and just won't go away. I hate this wrap, lol

Yah, you can take a pin and puncture it from the side, heat it again and press it down. Should work.

Keep applying heat (not too hot) so that it won't change shape anymore. Seems to be the trick.

NewYorkJon34 · 07-17-2010, 05:40 PM

Ok bro, I'll try that after I finish eating dinner. If it works for tint, then why not vinyl right

kenchan · 07-17-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Ok bro, I'll try that after I finish eating dinner. If it works for tint, then why not vinyl right

Yah, it actually works better! No signed of puncture left behind after heating and pressing down.

NewYorkJon34 · 07-17-2010, 07:23 PM

It kinda helped alittle bit, but for the 3 dials you really have to curve it instead of a 90 degree wrap. Let's just say it's the best it's going to be.

kenchan · 07-17-2010, 09:30 PM

post up some picts when done.

kenchan · 07-18-2010, 12:06 PM

unfortunately the film could not withstand the engine heat and unwrapped itself in a few areas... so if you're going to do this for a show, be sure to remove the cover until you're ready to display.

oil temp 210F degrees, ambient 78F, cover temp 164F right after the drive. the areas that were not stretched and wrapped over was fine though.

m4a1mustang · 07-18-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

unfortunately the film could not withstand the engine heat and unwrapped itself in a few areas... so if you're going to do this for a show, be sure to remove the cover until you're ready to display.

oil temp 210F degrees, ambient 78F, cover temp 164F right after the drive. the areas that were not stretched and wrapped over was fine though.

kenchan · 07-18-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

the front engine cover surround is now primed/sanded and waiting for mask and paint.

TongMan · 07-18-2010, 01:54 PM

good to know...gotta rep you for testing this.

metz · 07-18-2010, 02:56 PM

Just an FYI since I saw the question somewhere. You cannot cover this in resin or anything like it. I work with real carbon and had some of the 3m stuff laying around so I tried to cover it in an epoxy. It causes it to just basically go black. Seems to be that it takes the texture out of it so now the lights not reflecting on it giving the carbon look.

kenchan · 07-18-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

good to know...gotta rep you for testing this.

hey thanks.

the adhesive left behind a permanent mark on the engine cover so i decided to prime, sand, and paint it glossy black using engine enamel paint. i could've just done regular matte-black but it would've been too stock looking for the amount of work put in.

only noticeable to someone with a Z.

wilsonp · 07-19-2010, 11:35 PM

Anyone think about wrapping the outside door handles instead of painting black?

Ztoon · 07-20-2010, 12:23 AM

Pin punctures to get rid of the air pockets seems to work at first..... Check it out after a couple weeks with the warm weather beating down on it. That invisible pin hole stretches and expands to a good size hole, just to stare back at you until the anal part of your personality makes you strip it and start all over again!!!

kenchan · 07-20-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

Anyone think about wrapping the outside door handles instead of painting black?

ive thought about it, but i like the titanium color on my silver Z so have not done it.

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Originally Posted by Ztoon

Pin punctures to get rid of the air pockets seems to work at first..... Check it out after a couple weeks with the warm weather beating down on it. That invisible pin hole stretches and expands to a good size hole, just to stare back at you until the anal part of your personality makes you strip it and start all over again!!!

ouch.

WarmAndSCSI · 07-20-2010, 01:01 PM

Just a hypothetical question, but do you all think I'd have any problems wrapping the upper vinyl on the door panels? Could it be done on the car with the doors open?

Looking to make that an initial phase of our fake CF wrapping project. After that will be the lower dash.

07-17-2010, 07:23 PM	#244 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	It kinda helped alittle bit, but for the 3 dials you really have to curve it instead of a 90 degree wrap. Let's just say it's the best it's going to be. Last edited by NewYorkJon34; 07-17-2010 at 07:26 PM.

07-20-2010, 12:23 AM	#253 (permalink)
Ztoon Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: B.C. Posts: 578 Drives: '09 370a7 Rep Power: 24	Pin punctures to get rid of the air pockets seems to work at first..... Check it out after a couple weeks with the warm weather beating down on it. That invisible pin hole stretches and expands to a good size hole, just to stare back at you until the anal part of your personality makes you strip it and start all over again!!! __________________ Stillen G3\|CBE\|ground kit, F.I. H.F.C., C.F. fangs\|mirrors\|pillars, Hotchkis, SSR Type-F, RE-11, UpRev, BC BR coilovers 15% tint, LED black hdlts, color match handles, Dynamat, tail lt. tint, Mines C.F. frt. lip\|rear spoiler, Amuse rear,skirts, vented fenders, c.f. vented hood, gloss blk. roof

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WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Just a hypothetical question, but do you all think I'd have any problems wrapping the upper vinyl on the door panels? Could it be done on the car with the doors open? Looking to make that an initial phase of our fake CF wrapping project. After that will be the lower dash. __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

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07-17-2010, 05:40 PM	#242 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	Ok bro, I'll try that after I finish eating dinner. If it works for tint, then why not vinyl right

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	post up some picts when done.

07-18-2010, 12:06 PM	#246 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	unfortunately the film could not withstand the engine heat and unwrapped itself in a few areas... so if you're going to do this for a show, be sure to remove the cover until you're ready to display. oil temp 210F degrees, ambient 78F, cover temp 164F right after the drive. the areas that were not stretched and wrapped over was fine though.

07-18-2010, 01:54 PM	#249 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	good to know...gotta rep you for testing this.

07-18-2010, 02:56 PM	#250 (permalink)
metz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 347 Drives: 05 Roush, 2010 40th Rep Power: 15	Just an FYI since I saw the question somewhere. You cannot cover this in resin or anything like it. I work with real carbon and had some of the 3m stuff laying around so I tried to cover it in an epoxy. It causes it to just basically go black. Seems to be that it takes the texture out of it so now the lights not reflecting on it giving the carbon look.

07-19-2010, 11:35 PM	#252 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	Anyone think about wrapping the outside door handles instead of painting black?