2009 370z bad paint job???

Salvatorey · 02-04-2010, 03:29 PM

I own a 2009 black 370z with the sport package, and up until recently I've been washing her every 3 days just to keep the black shiny. Well not too long ago I noticed a large bird dropping right next to the passenger door handle. It wasn't there the night before, and so I wiped it off. Low and behold, the clear coat was completely eaten away, only a dull, grey/black mark remained where the droppings were. This bothered me! Who wants to see a huge bird crap imprint while stepping into the passenger seat?

Turns out there's more than one bird out there.

Never on for more than a day, and sometimes an hour, EVERY single bird dropping is ruining my car one by one! Never has this happened to any other vehicle I've owned in the past! Theres a huge spot right above the "Z" symbol where the front side skirts curve into the hood, one on the roof, a larger one on the hood, and one on my rear spoiler.

I've gone from cleaning this car and keeping it beautiful at least twice to 3 times a week to just losing hope all together. Black is hard to keep clean, but I like clean my cars because it's relaxing, so I didn't mind purchasing the Z in black because it's very beautiful when it's clean. But if its full of permanent sh*t marks what does it matter anyway! If bird crap can do that much damage to the paint in an hour, what is the car going to look like in a year? or dare I say 3 years?

I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced this problem, because at this point its either don't buy a 370z or hope to God you don't live around birds. I'm hoping that this is some sort of paint defect. I need not mention the growing number of buff swirls/scratches/crap.

m4a1mustang · 02-04-2010, 03:30 PM

Nissan has notoriously mediocre paint.

Salvatorey · 02-04-2010, 03:31 PM

I don't know why it's saying I only have 1 post on here. I have made many before as i've also owned a 2007 350z, of course I haven't been on in a while. So I'm no troll!. Thanks guys for any help you can offer

YamahaR6 · 02-04-2010, 03:35 PM

pics?

PapoZalsa · 02-04-2010, 03:44 PM

I had that problem with different type of cars. Bird $hit needs to be remove immediately. That is acid that will eat into any type of paint.

Salvatorey · 02-04-2010, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I had that problem with different type of cars. Bird $hit needs to be remove immediately. That is acid that will eat into any type of paint.

Have birds crapped on your car yet? If they did or ever do and it didn't leave a mark please tell me. But if you were lucky enough to avoid any droppings until thus far, and you don't want permanent marks on your car, look up when you drive and never park for more than a half hour. It's just ridiculous to me and I can't drive around with a cover on the damn thing. It's like they painted it with water colors.

PapoZalsa · 02-04-2010, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvatorey

Have birds crapped on your car yet? If they did or ever do and it didn't leave a mark please tell me. But if you were lucky enough to avoid any droppings until thus far, and you don't want permanent marks on your car, look up when you drive and never park for more than a half hour. It's just ridiculous to me and I can't drive around with a cover on the damn thing. It's like they painted it with water colors.

Yes they had, luckly I have cleaned it immediately.

Keeping a good coat of wax helps too!

Salvatorey · 02-04-2010, 03:45 PM

I don't have any, but if you can picture flat black, in the shape of a birdsh*t stain, right down to the little impact spots around the stain, then you will have a very clear picture. Paint is no longer smooth in the 4 or 5 spots. Just flat black. I'm talking - I got out of my car to go bring some lumber into the mill (birds do fly around there) when I got back around 45 minutes later, I saw the familiar stain, fresh but dried up. I've had bird crap on my cars before. Lots of bird crap come to think of it! And while bird crap is "acidic" i've cleaned it off of yellow, black, silver, (chevy, ford, nissan (350z)) and the paint was still shiny and smooth.

Soygen · 02-04-2010, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvatorey

I don't have any, but if you can picture flat black, in the shape of a birdsh*t stain, right down to the little impact spots around the stain, then you will have a very clear picture.

I'd be really interested in seeing an actual picture. Doesn't everyone have easy access to a digital camera these days?

serturbo · 02-04-2010, 03:48 PM

You may have been washing it quite a bit, but how much protection was on there in terms of wax.

Salvatorey · 02-04-2010, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serturbo

You may have been washing it quite a bit, but how much protection was on there in terms of wax.

Hey,

I've waxed the car twice so far during my 4 months of ownership. Once with turtle wax, then Meguiars (sp) after- about a month and a half apart, fit the last wax in before winter. Used Meguiars over turtle wax only because it's a lot easier to remove, which is a plus when it's pretty cold out.

kman · 02-04-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvatorey

Hey,

I've waxed the car twice so far during my 4 months of ownership. Once with turtle wax, then Meguiars (sp) after- about a month and a half apart, fit the last wax in before winter. Used Meguiars over turtle wax only because it's a lot easier to remove, which is a plus when it's pretty cold out.

i would try to go over it with some clay bar, if that doesn't work get a nice finishing polish (menzerna or such) and try then, don't forget to wax after clay thou, it removes the wax.

FricFrac · 02-04-2010, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvatorey

Hey,

I've waxed the car twice so far during my 4 months of ownership. Once with turtle wax, then Meguiars (sp) after- about a month and a half apart, fit the last wax in before winter. Used Meguiars over turtle wax only because it's a lot easier to remove, which is a plus when it's pretty cold out.

You need to protect your paint from the elements. The Nissan paint is AVERAGE - there are better (German, esp) and there are worse believe it or not. If the TWI is harder to come off its probably a better bet for a lasting barrier. I wax my car every third or fourth wash - otherwise you're removing a good portion of the protection for you paint.

Take your car into a reputable detailer who can likely buff the etching out and keep your car waxed!!! The synthetic waxes typically last longer and are easier to apply (doesn't leave a white residue). I prefer ICE myself as it can be applied to your plastic trim pieces as well whereas NXT recomends NOT putting it on your plastics.

Minicobra1 · 02-04-2010, 09:15 PM

get a pellet gun

then some wax

zmyride · 02-04-2010, 11:32 PM

I just bought a black Z over the weekend. I already see so many scratches, and I didn't even touch it. Just by staring at it, i think you can scratch the paint.

However, i intend to wash the car every three months in the summer, and wax every other wash. Don't use Turtle Wax. Don't overwax or you will damage the paint.

I saw the detail guy at the Nisan dealer used some kind of 3M buff solution which he applied to my car and it removed the scratches. He gave me a bottle. Let me take a picture and will show you what it looks like later.

02-04-2010, 03:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Salvatorey Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Campbell Hall Posts: 7 Drives: 2009 MB 370Z 6spd S Rep Power: 16	2009 370z bad paint job??? I own a 2009 black 370z with the sport package, and up until recently I've been washing her every 3 days just to keep the black shiny. Well not too long ago I noticed a large bird dropping right next to the passenger door handle. It wasn't there the night before, and so I wiped it off. Low and behold, the clear coat was completely eaten away, only a dull, grey/black mark remained where the droppings were. This bothered me! Who wants to see a huge bird crap imprint while stepping into the passenger seat? Turns out there's more than one bird out there. Never on for more than a day, and sometimes an hour, EVERY single bird dropping is ruining my car one by one! Never has this happened to any other vehicle I've owned in the past! Theres a huge spot right above the "Z" symbol where the front side skirts curve into the hood, one on the roof, a larger one on the hood, and one on my rear spoiler. I've gone from cleaning this car and keeping it beautiful at least twice to 3 times a week to just losing hope all together. Black is hard to keep clean, but I like clean my cars because it's relaxing, so I didn't mind purchasing the Z in black because it's very beautiful when it's clean. But if its full of permanent sh*t marks what does it matter anyway! If bird crap can do that much damage to the paint in an hour, what is the car going to look like in a year? or dare I say 3 years? I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced this problem, because at this point its either don't buy a 370z or hope to God you don't live around birds. I'm hoping that this is some sort of paint defect. I need not mention the growing number of buff swirls/scratches/crap.

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02-04-2010, 03:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Salvatorey Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Campbell Hall Posts: 7 Drives: 2009 MB 370Z 6spd S Rep Power: 16	I don't know why it's saying I only have 1 post on here. I have made many before as i've also owned a 2007 350z, of course I haven't been on in a while. So I'm no troll!. Thanks guys for any help you can offer

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YamahaR6 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 527 Drives: A Car Rep Power: 18	pics?

02-04-2010, 03:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Salvatorey Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Campbell Hall Posts: 7 Drives: 2009 MB 370Z 6spd S Rep Power: 16	I don't have any, but if you can picture flat black, in the shape of a birdsh*t stain, right down to the little impact spots around the stain, then you will have a very clear picture. Paint is no longer smooth in the 4 or 5 spots. Just flat black. I'm talking - I got out of my car to go bring some lumber into the mill (birds do fly around there) when I got back around 45 minutes later, I saw the familiar stain, fresh but dried up. I've had bird crap on my cars before. Lots of bird crap come to think of it! And while bird crap is "acidic" i've cleaned it off of yellow, black, silver, (chevy, ford, nissan (350z)) and the paint was still shiny and smooth.

02-04-2010, 03:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
serturbo Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kauai, HI Posts: 77 Drives: 10 370Z Sport Rep Power: 16	You may have been washing it quite a bit, but how much protection was on there in terms of wax.

02-04-2010, 11:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
zmyride Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 631 Drives: 10 Black Sports 7AT Rep Power: 17	I just bought a black Z over the weekend. I already see so many scratches, and I didn't even touch it. Just by staring at it, i think you can scratch the paint. However, i intend to wash the car every three months in the summer, and wax every other wash. Don't use Turtle Wax. Don't overwax or you will damage the paint. I saw the detail guy at the Nisan dealer used some kind of 3M buff solution which he applied to my car and it removed the scratches. He gave me a bottle. Let me take a picture and will show you what it looks like later.