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PapoZalsa 02-04-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvatorey (Post 387873)
Have birds crapped on your car yet? If they did or ever do and it didn't leave a mark please tell me. But if you were lucky enough to avoid any droppings until thus far, and you don't want permanent marks on your car, look up when you drive and never park for more than a half hour. It's just ridiculous to me and I can't drive around with a cover on the damn thing. It's like they painted it with water colors.

Yes they had, luckly I have cleaned it immediately.

Keeping a good coat of wax helps too! ;)

Sharif@Forged 02-04-2010 06:37 PM

Black Nissan paint is some of the worst quality I have seen. I don't think they apply enough clear coat and it chips really easily. Best of luck.

antman22 02-04-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvatorey (Post 387880)
Do you really think the clay bar would work? I looked at it closely and it really just looks like the paint isn't there anymore; I'm not sure if there is stuff actually on top of the paint is what I'm saying. I'll add it to my to do list, under call Nissan and try not to lose my temper.

Its really hard to say what your next step should be since we don't have a photo, I'm just speaking from personal experience. I tried to wash the crap off with mild soap and water and thats when i noticed this haze/off white in the area it used to be. I can't say if it was acid etching or maybe i got real lucky (since i wax my car often) and the acid just reacted weird to the wax above the paint. after many attempts at just washing and wiping with a microfiber cloth, it was still there, so my last attempt was to claybar and see.

i first attempted the traditional method, spraying detailing spray and running the clay bar over it- nothing seemed to happen. after many passes, i accidentally forgot to respray to lubricate the surface and found myself passing it and leaving the streaks you get when you try to dry bar it. oddly enough, i think the friction from that pulled the nastiness off. i'm not sure if it pulled the damaged wax or what, but a few more passes, then wiping the streaks away and it was gone. you couldn't tell it was there. then i rewaxed the area and buffed it shiny.

i dont recommend dry claying your car, but it worked for me as an accidental side effect. i would certainly be extremely careful if you chose to do this and i would definitely make sure the surface is totally clean to avoid the clay bar from picking up anything and causing additional scratches. definitely try the wet traditional method first before attempting this.

hope this works out for ya. if not, google acid etching and i think there are plenty of potential solutions that could work for you.

dalparadise 02-04-2010 07:06 PM

Definitely try the clay bar. You'll be surprised. Then throw the Turtle Wax in the garbage. I'm guessing the Meguire's you're using is the "Cleaner Wax". That's a good product for prepping and is a fine foundation coat. You should finish with a synthetic polish or some other layer -- even if it's carnuba. The Cleaner Wax alone is fine for a quick wax job and especially as a primer, but does not offer enough lasting protection or deep enough shine for a black car.

SophiaZ 02-04-2010 07:15 PM

I can't say it's only Nissan's black paint. I had the 03 350z (pearl white) and I dug my fingernail in it once (don't ask why haha) but it's so soft! My nail just sunk right in and left a mark. I don't know whats up with their shi*ty paint...but its been like that for many years, sadly :(

FricFrac 02-04-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvatorey (Post 387884)
Hey,

I've waxed the car twice so far during my 4 months of ownership. Once with turtle wax, then Meguiars (sp) after- about a month and a half apart, fit the last wax in before winter. Used Meguiars over turtle wax only because it's a lot easier to remove, which is a plus when it's pretty cold out.

You need to protect your paint from the elements. The Nissan paint is AVERAGE - there are better (German, esp) and there are worse believe it or not. If the TWI is harder to come off its probably a better bet for a lasting barrier. I wax my car every third or fourth wash - otherwise you're removing a good portion of the protection for you paint.

Take your car into a reputable detailer who can likely buff the etching out and keep your car waxed!!! The synthetic waxes typically last longer and are easier to apply (doesn't leave a white residue). I prefer ICE myself as it can be applied to your plastic trim pieces as well whereas NXT recomends NOT putting it on your plastics.

Minicobra1 02-04-2010 09:15 PM

get a pellet gun :tup: then some wax

zmyride 02-04-2010 11:32 PM

I just bought a black Z over the weekend. I already see so many scratches, and I didn't even touch it. Just by staring at it, i think you can scratch the paint.

However, i intend to wash the car every three months in the summer, and wax every other wash. Don't use Turtle Wax. Don't overwax or you will damage the paint.

I saw the detail guy at the Nisan dealer used some kind of 3M buff solution which he applied to my car and it removed the scratches. He gave me a bottle. Let me take a picture and will show you what it looks like later.

B1nks 02-05-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 388090)
I can't say it's only Nissan's black paint. I had the 03 350z (pearl white) and I dug my fingernail in it once (don't ask why haha) but it's so soft! My nail just sunk right in and left a mark. I don't know whats up with their shi*ty paint...but its been like that for many years, sadly :(


Weight savings, it's all about the weight savings.. :eekdance:

eddieconfetti 02-05-2010 03:16 AM

Nissan has always been known for their crappy paintjob. My bumper paint and body paint is really off. I know that it color comes out a little different between plastic and metal but its way off. You can tell from a distance. People always ask me why my bumper color is different from my body color.

mick 02-05-2010 10:25 AM

imo, they should make an unpainted 370z like the delorean dmc from the 80s.

that would solve bad the paint job, paint chips, decision about whether to get a clearbra or not, etc...

it would cost them less to produce such a car even since they don't have to paint it :)

FricFrac 02-06-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 388812)
imo, they should make an unpainted 370z like the delorean dmc from the 80s.

that would solve bad the paint job, paint chips, decision about whether to get a clearbra or not, etc...

it would cost them less to produce such a car even since they don't have to paint it :)

Lol - then you would have a rusty Datsun instead of a Nissan ;) The Delorean was Stainless Steel ;)

NYBladeZ 02-06-2010 11:43 AM

I had horrible paint on my Z, 09 solid red, the front bumper had paint cracking under the clear all over the fanged area, I lucked out though instead of making a ruckus at the dealer I got a free new cf bumper.


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