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Kyle@STILLEN 01-11-2010 06:41 PM

Urgent help needed!!!
 
OK guys so we are at a point where we have finalized three designs for the fangs and the rest of the fascia is finished. However, now we need your input on what you want to see for the fangs!

We have three different options and they are all going to be able to be sold seperately from the fascia. So, if you want the fascia but not the fangs, that will not be a problem. These modular fang inserts will also be functional brake ducts as well.

We need some input ASAP because we want to make a decision tomorrow as to which direction we're going to go with this design!!!

Keep in mind that this thread is not for the guys who don't want to keep the fangs. This thread is for the guy's who want to retain a similar look to the factory fang design.

So, here is option 1:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...75/option1.jpg

Option 2:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...75/option2.jpg

Option 3:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...75/option3.jpg

KillerBee370 01-11-2010 06:51 PM

Option 1. No question about it.

import111 01-11-2010 07:32 PM

I like option 3 best.

kevr6 01-11-2010 09:30 PM

Number 3

antman22 01-12-2010 12:03 AM

1 or 3 look good, ditch 2.

AK370Z 01-12-2010 12:27 AM

I like both 1 and 3. But I voted for 1 because it has more stock look to it (the fangs). Didn't really liked no. 2.

Looks pretty good. :tup:

phelan 01-12-2010 12:48 AM

Since this is catered to those who like the stock look I voted for #1. However, I am quite partial to #3 as well, it's a bit more 'stealth' with the lower profile fangs.

Minicobra1 01-12-2010 04:18 AM

I'm going to say 1, the bigger fangs go well with the big side vents.
2 sucks, looks like some bucked tooth 370 wanna be :bowrofl:

Minicobra1 01-12-2010 04:21 AM

thanks for the teaser shot :tup:

simota1 01-12-2010 05:00 AM

option one please!!!

Minicobra1 01-12-2010 05:51 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Ok, here is a quick photoshop of the winner :tiphat:

Deslin 01-12-2010 06:16 AM

Option 1.

:iagree: with Minicobra1 - Option 2 looks buck toothed. :rofl2:

HKYStormFront 01-12-2010 06:36 AM

op1

Kyle@STILLEN 01-12-2010 10:30 AM

Thank you very much for all of your feedback guys! This fascia is coming along very well and we are all excited to get the final parts on the car and painted and ready to show!

I think it's pretty clear what the favorite was LOL!

j.arnaldo 01-12-2010 12:43 PM

The chart's telling a story!

FuszNissan 01-12-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 359385)
Ok, here is a quick photoshop of the winner :tiphat:

Needs a lip.

Eric 01-13-2010 06:12 AM

Option 1

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20...n/StillenZ.jpg

LiquidZ 01-13-2010 06:58 AM

I really, really, like this.

DannyGT 01-13-2010 09:24 AM

the lower profile of number 3 flows with the kit alot more...and people still 'get it' as being a tribute to the stock design. Definitly #3

KillerBee370 01-13-2010 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyGT (Post 360204)
the lower profile of number 3 flows with the kit alot more...and people still 'get it' as being a tribute to the stock design. Definitly #3

Ahhh but the votes have it! :icon23: :happydance:

law2004 01-15-2010 12:43 AM

I love option 1, id buy it whenever it comes out. =]

Minicobra1 01-15-2010 02:35 AM

At higher speeds, won't those 2 large side vents ad drag to the car? are they intended for brake cooling?

phantom21 01-15-2010 05:45 AM

Stop worrying about front fascia and get to work on my S/C ;)

Option 1 here though. Look s3xy.

BLUESLATE 01-15-2010 06:13 AM

Option 1 as well.

Kyle@STILLEN 01-15-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 361246)
At higher speeds, won't those 2 large side vents ad drag to the car? are they intended for brake cooling?

The two large side vents are actually going to have a couple of coolers behind them so they will be functional. I would be surprised if the fascia increased the drag at all. Scoops don't really increase drag. The big front lip would do more in the ways of increasing downforce/drag than the side scoops would.

With that being said...You would have to be going at speeds in excess of 120 and up to see any type of difference in your aero drag. The front lip will add downforce at speeds below that which will help in cornering and what not, similar to a canard. But any increase in drag from those scoops would be pretty small.

Kyle@STILLEN 01-15-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom21 (Post 361314)
Stop worrying about front fascia and get to work on my S/C ;)

Option 1 here though. Look s3xy.

Two different parts of the company my friend! LOL

We have our engineers focused on the supercharger, I should post some pictures of the manifold in the machine shop shouldn't I?

The modeling shop guys are focused on the body kit and getting it wrapped up.

You guys should see the rockers!!! GORGEOUS!!!

I just ordered up some KW variant 3 coil overs, some R888's and some 19's for this car...I can't wait to see the body kit painted and the suspension and wheels and tires on there. This car is going to be MEAN!!!

JoeyD 01-15-2010 10:58 AM

Kyle, not to bust out the expert but...scoops most certainly do add drag. Even NACA ducts (which have the absolute least drag of any scoop design) are parasitic. Whether or not the drag will affect any of these cars at speeds they will see is a different story. I doubt if it will be noticable at all. However, the speed at which the car becomes aerodynamicly restrained could be lowered as much as a few MPH. That being said. I have an idea that maybe Stillen would be interested in in the Aero dept. My guess is with some simple and cheap parts I could clean the aerodynamics of this car up very easily. If you'd like to hear it shoot me a PM.

Sorry, I'm stuck in Charlotte waiting to fly our IT guy back to Fay. I'm bored, and probably posting way too much.

6MT 01-15-2010 12:11 PM

I voted for option three. BUT, I think that this front "clip" looks too "350ish". The side openings take away from the 370's uniqueness. IMHO

G Fo12ce 01-15-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 359342)
Since this is catered to those who like the stock look I voted for #1. However, I am quite partial to #3 as well, it's a bit more 'stealth' with the lower profile fangs.

:iagree: with what he says. 1 & 3 flow nice with the headlights.

Kyle, are the fangs separate peices like I think you mentioned before?

If so, I really like the final design (fangless). From what I can tell in the pics you guys did a nice job on the design and certain aspects are a departure and new style from past stuff. I'm liking how the top of the side ducts looks like the built in canard on the NISMO bumper as well. If I didn't have a NISMO I'd be wanting one. Hope it sells well for you guys.

When you paint it, paint that upper plate mount black!

I think the vents will be nice for cooler function. Assuming one may be for and intercooler, power over minor high speed drag IMO.

kenchan 01-15-2010 12:40 PM

oh man... :shakes head: option: stock

Kyle@STILLEN 01-15-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 361603)
Kyle, not to bust out the expert but...scoops most certainly do add drag. Even NACA ducts (which have the absolute least drag of any scoop design) are parasitic. Whether or not the drag will affect any of these cars at speeds they will see is a different story. I doubt if it will be noticable at all. However, the speed at which the car becomes aerodynamicly restrained could be lowered as much as a few MPH. That being said. I have an idea that maybe Stillen would be interested in in the Aero dept. My guess is with some simple and cheap parts I could clean the aerodynamics of this car up very easily. If you'd like to hear it shoot me a PM.

Sorry, I'm stuck in Charlotte waiting to fly our IT guy back to Fay. I'm bored, and probably posting way too much.

You are correct, and I apologize if my post was misleading. In top speed discussions then yes, the side scoops are going to put a bit of a drag. Exactly how much, I don't know. But, those speeds would be very high before you start seeing any negative side effects.

Kyle@STILLEN 01-15-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Fo12ce (Post 361700)
:iagree: with what he says. 1 & 3 flow nice with the headlights.

Kyle, are the fangs separate peices like I think you mentioned before?

If so, I really like the final design (fangless). From what I can tell in the pics you guys did a nice job on the design and certain aspects are a departure and new style from past stuff. I'm liking how the top of the side ducts looks like the build in canard on the NISMO bumper as well. If I didn't have a NISMO I'd be wanting one. Hope it sells well for you guys.

When you paint it, paint that upper plate mount black!

I think the vents will be nice for cooler function. Assuming one may be for and intercooler, power over minor high speed drag IMO.

That is correct. The fangs are seperate pieces that can be purchased seperately for people who want them. Once installed they will become functional brake ducts with all of the necessary piping.

To be perfectly honest, I too would probably run it without the fangs, but because this car will see track days and I'll want the additional brake cooling, I'll probably end up putting the fangs back in.

G Fo12ce 01-15-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 361753)
That is correct. The fangs are seperate pieces that can be purchased seperately for people who want them. Once installed they will become functional brake ducts with all of the necessary piping.

To be perfectly honest, I too would probably run it without the fangs, but because this car will see track days and I'll want the additional brake cooling, I'll probably end up putting the fangs back in.

Cool...

If you really wanted to keep the look I'm sure with your resources you could have ducting made to supply air to the coolers and brakes from the side ducts. Test in and sell it later as an option if there is interest, then everyone gets a brake cooling option regarless of fangs. If you could mold it out of urethane it might be cheaper than the bending or labor involved with "tin work".

jmlenz 01-20-2010 12:15 PM

I think I found my fascia Kyle! when is this fascia expected to hit the market? Any plans on putting the S/C air-water heat exchanger behind one of those side scoops? Whats the plan for covering the center...mesh?

g96818 01-20-2010 08:16 PM

i can't see the pics, but is there an option for adding fog lights?

AK370Z 01-20-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g96818 (Post 368427)
i can't see the pics, but is there an option for adding fog lights?

Adding fog light to front bumper? :wtf2:

g96818 01-21-2010 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 368428)
Adding fog light to front bumper? :wtf2:

yea, whats wrong with that? i miss having fog lights, they add wider visibility if placed right. plus they can help blind those a-holes running illegal hids without the correct headlight assembly (projectors)

g96818 01-21-2010 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 361723)
oh man... :shakes head: option: stock

k, i can see the pics now and i agree with you on this. those vents aren't very appealing at all, looks like someone put a hole in both cheeks.
maybe it's the view, but i'm not feeling it

Plasmaball 01-22-2010 07:58 PM

i will buy option one.

armensti 01-22-2010 11:30 PM

those fangs look thin for some reason


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