Wax on carbon fiber question. Post your opinions!

NYBladeZ · 12-30-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidcane

LOL correct and GOOD its not Mastergrade. Care to share who then? Just curious.

As soon as they release I'd be more than happy to discuss it. Some background details, the entire job consists of fenders, skirts, bumpers and hood. It's wet carbon, I always thought carbon fiber was grey but it's black cf in a 2x2 weave. My kit is a prototype but by my inspection they did great. The pieces were free since I was nice enough to volunteer and not drive the Z for MONTHS! Can't lie I'm chomping at the bit!

NYBladeZ · 12-30-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec Jay

exactly what i was about to suggest. i used it on all of the cf parts on my spec v(hood trunk sideskirts front lip) and it kept it from fading just the gelcoat turned yellowish. then when i stopped waxing it for a couple months it started to fade.

I'm assuming the gelcoat can always be sanded down and reapplied at a good body shop. Now hard is it to properly apply the meguiars stuff. I'm on the verge of shopping for a good orbital buffer any recommendations?

nogoodname · 12-30-2009, 09:14 PM

Darren at Bay Speed in Brooklyn?? why not ask him what to do

azn370z · 12-30-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec Jay

i did it every other wash just because i had a black car.

I wash my car every 6 months. How often do you wash your car?

Z eliminator · 12-31-2009, 08:02 AM

My stillen hood on my 2003 is covered in a white haze in different parts of the hood. It looks terrible and no wax or zanio products takes it out. It looks like it is in the clear coat. The only way i get it to look good from a distance is to spray it with WD 40 and wipe it down . it looks good for 2 days (the wet look) then it goes back to normal.
Has anybody got a cure for this problem?

thanks

NXTAZEE · 12-31-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

My stillen hood on my 2003 is covered in a white haze in different parts of the hood. It looks terrible and no wax or zanio products takes it out. It looks like it is in the clear coat. The only way i get it to look good from a distance is to spray it with WD 40 and wipe it down . it looks good for 2 days (the wet look) then it goes back to normal.
Has anybody got a cure for this problem?

thanks

It needs to be polished.

Modshack · 12-31-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

My stillen hood on my 2003 is covered in a white haze in different parts of the hood. It looks terrible and no wax or zanio products takes it out. It looks like it is in the clear coat. The only way i get it to look good from a distance is to spray it with WD 40 and wipe it down . it looks good for 2 days (the wet look) then it goes back to normal.
Has anybody got a cure for this problem?

thanks

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE

It needs to be polished.

Or clear-coated..

Spec Jay · 12-31-2009, 01:12 PM

white haze is the fading. you need to sand down and get rid of as much of the gel coat as possible then use a high quality clear.

i used to wash my car weekly

just make sure you wipe down the cf stuff often and wax once a month

Modshack · 12-31-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I'm assuming the gelcoat can always be sanded down and reapplied at a good body shop.

There is no Gel coat used in CF lay-up (only used in the mold).. You're dealing with Epoxy or Epoxy with a clear-coat on top... Epoxy discoloration (yellowing) cannot be fixed. Surface defects and dulling can, either by polishing as mentioned, or with a clear coat (paint) application..

kenchan · 12-31-2009, 08:51 PM

^^^ what modshack said. Treat it like any other paint on the car. Use high grade polymer if your car is a dd and keep spraying products like Prima Hydro after each wash.

Endgame · 05-29-2010, 09:14 AM

So.....

In regards to CF care, I read on one of the Audi boards that putting a clear bra on would protect the CF from fading/discoloring. As I am concerned about my CF front lip and paint chips, would that be a better option? Clear bra it and simply wax over the clear bra monthly??? Two birds, one stone?

Modshack · 05-29-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

So.....

In regards to CF care, I read on one of the Audi boards that putting a clear bra on would protect the CF from fading/discoloring. As I am concerned about my CF front lip and paint chips, would that be a better option? Clear bra it and simply wax over the clear bra monthly??? Two birds, one stone?

Doubt it..unless you can block the heat and UV I'm pretty sure it will eventually yellow. Chevy bought outrageously expensive epoxy additives to keep the ZR1 roof from suffering this fate. I doubt run of the mill CF parts are going to be made with this care due to the expense...

Endgame · 05-29-2010, 01:43 PM

k thx.

Daishi · 05-29-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Doubt it..unless you can block the heat and UV I'm pretty sure it will eventually yellow. Chevy bought outrageously expensive epoxy additives to keep the ZR1 roof from suffering this fate. I doubt run of the mill CF parts are going to be made with this care due to the expense...

thats why you need high quality pieces like Mines, Amuse.. they fit better and last longer than the cheap brands in the us

phelan · 05-30-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Daishi

thats why you need high quality pieces like Mines, Amuse.. they fit better and last longer than the cheap brands in the us

but will eventually still be subject to fading / yellowing if left out to suffer in the elements. just because it's jdm doesn't mean it'll be immune to the effects of time and nature.

12-31-2009, 08:02 AM	#20 (permalink)
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Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 223	So..... In regards to CF care, I read on one of the Audi boards that putting a clear bra on would protect the CF from fading/discoloring. As I am concerned about my CF front lip and paint chips, would that be a better option? Clear bra it and simply wax over the clear bra monthly??? Two birds, one stone?

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Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 223	k thx.