Swaping out seats question ( juke )
 

I want to put my z seats into a juke nismo rs

I want to put those recaro rs seats into my z

I need to give back the juke very fast so i will concentrate to make the z seats fits in the juke first

Is it bolt on ?

Thanks

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...aro-seats.html

Not a simple pnp due to differences in the brackets.

I saw this post already but is there a way tu buy universal brackets to swap them and electric still works?

Nope and nope

You are **** out of luck

Putting the Juke seats into a Z came up in this thread. It appears 2011-nismo-91 has done this, and claims it's not overly difficult? Perhaps this gives you a place to start.

Which rental car place will you be returning the juke to?.... :)

LOL Same exact thing I was thinking. Well, either that or test driving one.

Exactly, I'm not mad at the hustle I guess as long as its not a private seller lol...

To my knowledge no one has done the reverse swap or at least posted any details. Impossible, it shouldnt be too hard. Seats might be a bit low. But you will need to deal with the passenger weight sensor. Either remove it from the juke seats and install it into the Z seats or get the bypass if there is one.

Juke RS seats are 3" taller than the 370Z seats. As such there is 20 hrs of fabrication work to make the RS Recaros fit into my Nismo 370z. Going in reverse while Im sure is possible, it's anything but a direct swap. Cutting and welding will be necessary for both swaps. Good luck!

Xplicit97
In 2016 you said:
“For those interested in these seats. I just installed the brackets on mine. No cutting just unbolt the old bracket/sliders, and bolt on the new. I can only speak to the Wedge Engineering brackets and sliders, which cost $417.34 I told them the exact seats they were for. So best I can tell NO cutting or fabrication is needed when using Wedge brackets/sliders.”

Was this not the case? You ended up having to do 20 hrs of fabrication after all?

With the Wedge brackets it is a bolt in job.*

*It will just barely fit and you will sit much higher in the car.

If you want to sit lower you will need to cut and weld parts of the seat and/or brackets which will take time. I think the non sliding bracket is lower but you would have to call Wedge to confirm.

The passenger weight sensor from the Juke seats don't connect to the Z. So you would need to either swap the weight sensors or install a bypass ~$90 that fools it to thinking there is always someone in the seat and you would need to have the seat buckled because otherwise the fasten seat-belt light would always be on.

When you say it will barely fit and you will sit much higher with the Wedge Brackets. Are you using the Recaro seat subframes? Or the standard subframes that came on the Juke?

The Recaro subframes are extremely low profile, so I’m trying to imagine how tall the wedge adapter would have to be to create that issue.

This is with the low profile subframe:

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I’ll try to document this process. It seems like the information is out there but it’s hard to find and not in one place.

So far I know I’ll need these items:
-Recaro Subframe
-Wedge double locking slider brackets
-Wedge 370z adapter (bolts to floor)

Nissan 370 Z 09+ Seat Brackets

Recaro Subframe:
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This literally just happened, so no turning back now.
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Making progress! I almost have all the parts and it won’t be too much longer before these nismo seats are installed.

These pictures are showing the removal of the juke base frame to swap with a recaro CS base frame. By locating all the correct parts there will be no custom fabrication needed.

I’m still planning to put together all the information I learned once I’m done.

Bump For Update!


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I’ll try to be more detailed and or organized at a later date, but wanted to get an update out quickly. I’m doing this with thumbs from my phone, I apologize in advance.

Pros:
-Beautiful in person, pictures don’t do justice. It was a game changer to see at first glance.
-More comfortable than stock. Supportive, stiff overall feel, but somehow plush at the same time.
-Feels SO sporty, immediately gave the car a whole new vibe. Holds you in place through corners.
-Airbag!!! Plug and play.
This was a must for me. This was the ONLY reason I went this route and didn’t buy new recaros from a dealer. BTW, I spoke directly to the Recaro dealer in Houston thinking I could buy an airbag version of the Sporster CS. The person I spoke with claims there are NO recaro options with an airbag. He claimed the “airbag” option you see online is a lumber support option that uses an air-bag. Not to be confused with an SRS airbag. Honestly the photos online look like SRS airbags to me. But this 20 year veteran dealer claims otherwise. I have no idea, but at the EOD I found these Nismos and the problem was solved.
-Easy install, don’t be told otherwise! I’m not handy at all, I’m just obsessive about researching everything.

Cons:
-Seat is too high with sliders. I may remove them eventually. I would’ve saved the money if I was doing it again. Costly to remove and remount, so the sliders are staying for now.
-Helmet might be an issue. This isn’t the Recaros fault, it’s the seat brackets in general which should be made lower. This probably effects all Afternarket seats when using sliders.
-Less leg room, I would’ve expected the opposite with the seats thin profile. To my surprise, my seat is as far back as it goes and it just fits right. In OEM seats the pedals were too far when the seat was fully extended. I’m 6’0, if I were any taller or longer legged it may be an issue.
-Leather is fragile. It’s extremely quality feeling, but way too delicate. I made a bad scuff and tiny tear the first day. You need to be extremely careful getting in and out, no laziness...Ever. So consider how this may get annoying if you like your stuff in good shape.
-Expensive!! But, not any worse than buying new Recaros.

I’ll admit, I panicked a little after buying the seats because all the information was scattered. There’s also some scary claims of 20 hours custom fabrication.

Just hang tight and don’t worry about any of that! I promise. NO custom fabrication is needed if you follow my recommendations!

1. Juke seats: < $2000 (don’t pay more or it may not be worth it IMO).
2. $380 Recaro Baseframe
$190 Shipping baseframe from Poland (no getting around this, I tried).
3. $100+ Sliders (I would skip these so the seat is lower, honestly a mistake).
4. $300 Planted Technology 370Z specific floor brackets.
5. $100 Planted Technology spacers for floor bracket. A must if you use sliders. Contributes 1/8 inch to height of seat. Again, save money, SKIP SLIDERS if you’re the only one driving the car. You won’t need these spacers.
6. $15 hardware for brackets. I got planted’s hardware and it was not long enough when using the spacers. Should be fine if you direct mount seat to the floor bracket. My shop luckily had longer hardware in hand.
7. $100 Airbag bypass. This is a module that tells the airbag a passager is always present. No flashing airbag light, but in the event of an accident, the passenger airbags are going off, passenger or not.
8. $3 - $20 Seat Belt clip. Keeps the seatbelt light off. There’s no beeping noise so this is not a must have.
9. $300-500 Installation. I really wanted to do this myself and save the money. It seemed easy but I’m very happy I had a professional handle this, it was a legit shop and it took them 4 hours. Got multiple quotes for the same timeline, and lots of people turning down the project because they won’t mess with custom builds that involve airbags.

My total cost:
$1565 + Seats = $3465

How and where to purchase?

2. Recaro Baseframe.
This is the ONLY tricky part to this process, BUT, the most important. This is where custom fabrication would be necessary if you didn’t get this baseframe.
Contact “Recaro Max” on Facebook. He’s a extremely nice, responsive, and reliable guy who answered my endless questions. He shipped the hard to come by base frame. There are not many other options. Recaro US will not sell you this part. End of story, I tried. So, get the baseframe lined up before you buy the seats.
Option 1: Recaro Max (Recommendation) amx-performance
Option 2: take your chances with this site: https://www.capitalseating.co.uk/sea...e-sportster-cs

3. Sliders: Recaro Max will sell these for $100. I recommend buying elsewhere since you cannot send them back. Quality was OKAY. Very durable feeling but aesthetic issues.

Again, I’d skip sliders. Authentic Recaro sliders, or wedge engineering sliders would be my preference otherwise. Recaro Max’s sliders were more economical, however.

4. Brackets:
Planted Technology (PT). Gritting my teeth at the expense when I bought the PT brackets knowing I could spend half the price. But, based on word of mouth that they are the “lowest option” I got them anyway. I have no comparison that they truly are lower than wedge but in photos it does appear that way. They require the additional spacers for $100 and adds an additional 1/8th of an inch in height. The hardware is extra dough too.
The main PRO to this bracket is they are universal for all types of seats, resale would be easy. Recaro recommends these brackets and they are definitely quality.

Wedge Engineering is by far the economical option. Like 200$ or so. They weld the spacers for free (make sure you specifically point out that you have Sportster CS seats and need that spacer). This alternative is half the cost of PT brackets. I believe they include the hardware for free.
Resale may NOT be easy, the brackets are only designed for a Recaro Sportster CS seat. I’ve heard good things, but I was concerned about height.

6. Hardware to mount the floor brackets to the sliders or to the seat is all you need. Sliders should come with their own hardware. All other hardware is used from the Juke Recaro seats and the OEM floor bolts.

7. Airbag bypass. https://airbag360.com/nissan-350z--3...ator-472-p.asp

8. Seatbelt clip: You can pass on this. https://www.amazon.com/CarNeed-Buckl...MV8J1E22VTR16V

Conclusion:

Despite some flaws you will have to get used to, the seats are AMAZING!! Truly worth the cost. It makes the car look and feel much more expensive and of higher quality. I personally did not care for the OEM seat design at all, so I am bias.

I am not regretful of the money or time invested in the mod. It really is worth the cost, being that it’s a direct connection point to the user. This is something I see, feel and enjoy every moment I’m in the car. Most important, I retained the seat mounted airbag.

This modification will not be difficult if you follow the steps above. Removing the Juke baseframe and installing the recaro base frame is extremely easy. I did it myself to shave installation cost. See the previous post I made.

I enjoyed this process and I hope that this thread helps save someone a bunch of research time.

Enjoy!

-Brandon

Special thanks to
@2011 Nismo#91, @Senna-F1, @Chops, @Xplicit97 and all the other people who posted information which I gathered to do this mod and make this post. I would not have figured out how to do this if it were not for them posting there experiences. Thank you!!

Awesome write up... WHERE ARE THE PICTURES LOL. You’re holding out on the eye candy! Also did you come up with a solution for the air bag light in the gauge cluster?


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And Pics!!

Thank you!

I had a professional install. But it is my understanding you need to disconnect your battery before you start taking seats out and unplugging airbags .

Connect the airbag bypass module to passenger side (step #7 above)

No airbag warning will be triggered since the battery was disconnected. When you reconnect the battery, the module is doing it’s thing. So no light in your dash, and no flashing airbag light at passenger side either. It worked. Thanks to 2011 Nismo 91 for this recommendation. Remember, passenger airbag will deploy in an accident reguardless of passanger present.

Gotcha I have that same bypass module... worked for the passenger light to the right of the radio but not the dash light... very interesting. What am I missing. What plugs on the seat to floor harness are connected?


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Since I didn’t install mine, I can’t say for sure if the shop trouble shooted anything prior to me arriving.

Did you try resetting the fault codes? I know nothing about that other than having read it somewhere while doing research. If you plugged that bypass out of order it may have caused the dash light to come on and it would need to be reset, whatever that entails.

At least your passenger AB light is off, so you know that bypass is functioning.

If you are still experiencing seat height problems, I would suggest you to have a professional welding shop cut and re-weld the mounting points for the front of the seat brackets by a little and the rear by as much as you can. This is will cause the seat to have a slight incline to the steering wheel which will give you a lower seat height (important if you track and need to wear a helmet) and more leg room.

Nissan 350z / 370z Passenger Seat Occupancy Sensor OCCUPANT CLASSIFICATION SENSOR EMULATOR

That plugs into the wire the seat weight sensor plugged into. Might have to reset the system.

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/4...html#post70055

Gave this a shot... didn’t work. Just calling out the only thing I have plugged into the drivers side harness is the seat belt clip. Wondering is another module like the passenger side but unoccupied would do the trick.


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That could be your issue. I have my drivers side seat plugged into the drivers side airbag harness. Is your drivers airbag harness left unplugged?

Yeah figured as much... hoping to get lucky with the resetting.


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There is a connection to the passenger side seat belt clip, this is how the car knows if the passenger is belted in. The passenger side seat belt clip should be wired just like it was prior to the install. The bypass needs to be connected to the harness where the original seat's weight sensor was plugged in.

Yep seat belt and bypass on the passenger side are connected. Drivers side only seat belt is connected.


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Then all you should need is a reset if everything is working as it should.

Even if there’s nothing besides the seatbelt plugged into the drivers side.... no don’t think so. Have to get something to cancel out the signal to the airbag for the drivers seat.


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Why do you think that? There is no difference for the driver seat from before the install to after. Your not canceling out the passenger side signal to the air bag. The only thing your changing is the seat weight sensor because the Juke weight sensor does not work with the Z's system so you get the bypass module to give a signal of "passenger seat occupied" all the time.

You only need to bypass the air bag wiring to the Z if you have aftermarket seats which don't have airbags in the seats. And that's just a simple resistor.

That’s where we’re missing.. these aren’t juke seats. Brides, was thinking I was going to get lucky with the reset, but this confirms I need to add resistors to the yellow plugs for the SRS light to go away. =\


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Just wanted to say that this whole thread was incredibly helpful. Finally got these seats installed in my 2008 350Z Nismo. Appreciate the help, guys!

Hey! I see for the spacers on PT website and they state they are 1/4”. Is that correct or you made a typo “1/8”

Complete Installation Tutorial
 

Hey guys, I've been excited to make this post for quite a while. I have made a complete step-by-step tutorial on how to retrofit these seats into my 370Z Nismo. I have attached a link below for the main installation video, along with a playlist involving all of the other videos I made about the Recaros, regarding airbag cover installation and seat cover removal. All of you were very helpful with this installation, and I wouldn't have been able to do it by myself.

Install Video: https://youtu.be/5E1jzb9Ewh8?si=wQcjEtheUSDxX_sm
Recaro Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...MoexVbWmwgupK0

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