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SouthArk370Z 02-23-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by old guy (Post 3909276)
So has anyone definitively figured out if it was a uv problem or an age problem? ...

I don't think UV is the cause. Probably doesn't help matters but I don't believe it is the root problem. It happens to too many garaged cars to be a UV problem, unless the Alcantera is terribly sensitive (since other Nissan models don't seem to suffer as bad, I don't think that's the case).

I didn't use any chemicals when cleaning the dash, so I think I can rule that out. Used mild window cleaners and sprayed on cloth, not directly on window.

My guess is that heat is the culprit - I usually drive with A/C off and windows down so my dash can get pretty hot on sunny days.

old guy 02-23-2020 06:03 PM

:iagree:

Yeah, sorta have come to that conclusion. I’ve never used anything on my dash but a damp cloth so we’ll see. I don’t have any problems now but, if it starts to deteriorate that will really bum me out

nis350 02-24-2020 12:46 AM

I honestly think the dash issue is related to the material having some kind of chemical reaction/deterioration due to aging. My car was under a car cover in the garage in very mild temperature in SOCAL for 2 months. I cleaned it with the 303 aerospace protectant before covering the car. It was nice, but it turned grayish now. The car cover didn't come off during this time period.

The sun/heat obviously would cause the dash to become sticky, but the root cause is likely the material used for the dash is deteriorating due to aging.


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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3910330)
I don't think UV is the cause. Probably doesn't help matters but I don't believe it is the root problem. It happens to too many garaged cars to be a UV problem, unless the Alcantera is terribly sensitive (since other Nissan models don't seem to suffer as bad, I don't think that's the case).

I didn't use any chemicals when cleaning the dash, so I think I can rule that out. Used mild window cleaners and sprayed on cloth, not directly on window.

My guess is that heat is the culprit - I usually drive with A/C off and windows down so my dash can get pretty hot on sunny days.


cv129 02-24-2020 02:37 AM

I have a decent sample size. 4 Nissan/Infiniti dash around the same model year (all 09-11). 1 dash I purchased from a member that had the car stripped, and dash had been in his attic. The other 2 were garage kept and low miles. 4th one gets parked outside, Texas car all it’s life (heat and sun!!!!), has most miles, got the most abuse.

Guess which one was fine, and which 3 got sticky?

It’s as if the dash likes the sun and the heat, and will have temper tantrum if it doesn’t get abuse from sun and heat. I just shake my head sometimes...

nis350 02-24-2020 05:32 PM

Perhaps the dash issues are limited to certain batch of the dashes.... something was different in the process or materials?

Again, our g37s that was driven more and exposed to the sun/heat many times more than the Z. It's dash is in great condition, not even a hint of stickiness or discolor.

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3910423)
I have a decent sample size. 4 Nissan/Infiniti dash around the same model year (all 09-11). 1 dash I purchased from a member that had the car stripped, and dash had been in his attic. The other 2 were garage kept and low miles. 4th one gets parked outside, Texas car all it’s life (heat and sun!!!!), has most miles, got the most abuse.

Guess which one was fine, and which 3 got sticky?

It’s as if the dash likes the sun and the heat, and will have temper tantrum if it doesn’t get abuse from sun and heat. I just shake my head sometimes...


JARblue 02-24-2020 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3910423)
I have a decent sample size. 4 Nissan/Infiniti dash around the same model year (all 09-11). 1 dash I purchased from a member that had the car stripped, and dash had been in his attic. The other 2 were garage kept and low miles. 4th one gets parked outside, Texas car all it’s life (heat and sun!!!!), has most miles, got the most abuse.

Guess which one was fine, and which 3 got sticky?

It’s as if the dash likes the sun and the heat, and will have temper tantrum if it doesn’t get abuse from sun and heat. I just shake my head sometimes...

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Interesting to say the least.

cv129 02-24-2020 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3910597)
Perhaps the dash issues are limited to certain batch of the dashes.... something was different in the process or materials?

Again, our g37s that was driven more and exposed to the sun/heat many times more than the Z. It's dash is in great condition, not even a hint of stickiness or discolor.

Not for my G lol. It’s one of the 3 melting dash I have, it wasn’t driven too frequently after my first born came and I started working from home 4 days a week. Parked in garage, next to the Z. Same condition, same fate, happened at the same time frame. For context, as of this moment, the G has 60k and my Z has 37k miles.

The FX50 (no longer own) was our work horse, and dash was perfect.

geeteezee 02-24-2020 11:16 PM

The website with the fix product seems to have determined that it's the adhesive seeping through the upper dash layer.

https://i.imgur.com/lgpJVwi.png

KaienZ34 03-26-2020 04:50 PM

Anyone had a chance to try this product? https://stickydashfix.com/

JARblue 03-26-2020 07:58 PM

Couple guys talked about purchasing it. No updates though. I am interested as well.

viragoboy 04-05-2020 12:00 PM

Finally applied stickdashfix
 
8 Attachment(s)
I finally found time to complete this project, I had originally applied the cleaner product about 3 weeks ago and the gray dust started coming back so I had to do that again.

Some observations:
- my dash was not super sticky but some places closer to the glass were definitely worse
- as you can see from the pics it was turning gray everywhere, even places that were covered by plastic and never got sunlight
- the cleaning product alone cleared out the dust almost completely
- it is really difficult to not get splotchy results. In very visible areas (passenger side dash) I applied multiple coats. Use long back/forth strokes front->back. Don't skimp, you're unlikely to run out of product.
- disassemble everything you can. The triple gauge cluster was the most difficult since I cannot see in the back and cannot be removed easily. Still splotchy there, but can't really see so much.

My verdict: It's worth the effort and money, I look back at the pictures I took before I started and it's obvious I had to do something. It will take 4+ hours to complete, but I did it over a week since it's not my daily driver.

cv129 04-05-2020 12:10 PM

Thx for the write up. Please continue to update us on whether the product holds up in the long run. Very interested to know if this is a permanent solution.

JARblue 04-05-2020 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by viragoboy (Post 3921586)
I finally found time to complete this project, I had originally applied the cleaner product about 3 weeks ago and the gray dust started coming back so I had to do that again.

Some observations:
- the cleaning product alone cleared out the dust almost completely
- it is really difficult to not get splotchy results. In very visible areas (passenger side dash) I applied multiple coats. Use long back/forth strokes front->back. Don't skimp, you're unlikely to run out of product.

So you applied the cleaning product the second time and then finally applied the coating? And you're saying the coating application was difficult to apply without splotches?

I am very interested to know if the splotchiness goes away or remains there more than a few days. And of course, in for the longer term results as well :tiphat:

Spartan 1771 04-06-2020 08:20 AM

Thanks for purchasing, testing and posting the results here. Like others, I'm really interested in seeing how it stands the test of time.

viragoboy 04-06-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921804)
So you applied the cleaning product the second time and then finally applied the coating? And you're saying the coating application was difficult to apply without splotches?

I am very interested to know if the splotchiness goes away or remains there more than a few days. And of course, in for the longer term results as well :tiphat:

Yes, applied cleaner twice. The instructions are pretty clear and point out that the coating should be applied shortly after the cleaner or have to start over. Thinking about it now it probably would have turned out better (less splotchy) if I hadn't applied it sparingly. I was afraid if I ran out then I'd be SOL.

Anyways, definitely not a UV issue in my case since the car has been garaged for 10 years with only 50k miles. I bought a few of these to soak up the humidity in the car, unfortunately too late:

https://www.amazon.com/Eva-dry-333-R.../dp/B00LVN7BM0


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